Bravo Romila Thapar!

Wednesday, 2. February 2005 - 1:12 PM

The queen bee of Marxist history writing in India needs to be congratulated for refusing the Padma award. Indeed, she wouldn’t risk accepting the award. For then it would conclusively prove that she is on the Commies’ payrolls favoured list. Now that her mask of being a “scholar” has slipped away, she takes recourse in veiled language, which however, betrays everything. The most recent example is this interview in the Indian Express.

Her response is not surprising, and to say the obvious, predictable. And self-righteous. Her refrain runs as follows: I have been targetted unfairly. What have I done to deserve this? The last question is answered voluminously, the most telling source being Arun Shourie’s book. She asserts her self-righteousness in several ways. For instance:

Also, unfortunately, I think we don?t give enough value to professional awards. Ultimately, recognition lies with one?s peers.The Indian History Congress selected me to the general presidentship a few years ago. To me that was award enough.

The question–in an increasingly politicized world–that is more appropriate is this: who by your definition, constitutes your peers? A person who says “I think people like us, working in fields that are sensitive to notions of nation and society, should keep an independent position,” should think twice. Especially in the light of her “award enough” appointment as the president of ICHR. Sri Nurul Hassan, a fellow Leftist was then the Education Minister. Mere coincidence, I suppose. And she puts her foot in her mouth when she says
The procedures for making these awards need to be gone into a little more systematically. Who sits on these committees? How do they decide? Who is recognised?

That’s how her books get rave reviews from fellow-travellers like Bipan Chandra et al. Why aren’t her/their books reviewed by other (read: genuine) historians? Rather, why aren’t these other historians’ reviews published in the mainstream media? For example, how many people have read about Koenraad Elst’s thorough demolition of Thapar’s fantasy thesis about Harsha of Kashmir? I quote the relevant passage here:
Next to the Pushyamitra fable, the most popular “evidence” for Hindu persecutions of Buddhism is a passage in Kalhana’s history of Kashmir, the Rajatarangini (Taranga 7: 1089 ff.), where king Harsha is accused of looting and desecrating temples. This example is given by JNU emeritus professor of ancient history, Romila Thapar, in Romila Thapar et al.: Communalism in the Writing of Indian History, p.15-16, and now again in her letter to Mr. Manish Tayal (UK), 7-2-1999. The latter letter was written in reply to Mr. Tayal’s query on Arun Shourie’s revelations on the financial malversations and scholarly manipulations of a group of historians, mainly from JNU and AMU…Note, at any rate, Romila Thapar’s total reliance on arguments of authority and status. No less than seven times does she denounce Shourie’s alleged (and unproven) incompetence: Shourie has “not the faintest idea”, is “unaware”, “untrained”, and “does not know”, and what he does is “laughable”, “a joke”, “garbage”. But what exactly is wrong in his writing, we are not allowed to know. If history is now a professional discipline, one couldn’t deduce it from this letter of hers, for its line of argument is part snobbish and part medieval (relying on formal authority), but quite bereft of the scientific approach.

Digression: Notice the words, which Elst has put in quotes? What does it remind you of? The Leninist technique of “sticking the convict’s badge?

Then Thapar treads on familiar ground: her “views” on Indian identity. She has (thankfully) retained her position.

No one is denying the identity of the Indian past. There was an Indian past. That is a given. The point is, how do you look at that past. How do you analyse it? How do you understand what identity that past gives you? This is where the difference lies. In the long run, I think the kinds of issues many of us are looking at have more relevance to understanding the Indian identity than the obsession with just the Vedas and the Hindu identity.

And this is the key to her position. The “way to look at the past,” the process of “identity-formation” is all given by The Theory. Everything else is either untrue or in her words, “an obsession with the Vedas.” For one whose expertise is in ancient Indian studies, Thapar’s lack of first hand knowledge of Sanskrit is amazing if not unpardonable. Majority of what we call the “priceless Indian heritage” resides in the Vedas. The seeds/ideas contained here were later expanded by scholars, poets, and kings alike. But this technique is definitely something Romila is at home with. Dismiss as irrelevant, the facts which don’t suit your ideology and/or are beyond your comprehension.

And then she comes up with a blatant lie:

(Interviewer) That is another allegation. That you refuse to look at the Vedas and Sanskrit texts as historical documents.
That is of course an absurdity. None of us could write our history without doing that. Some of the major histories of early India written in the last 50 years are based precisely on those sources. Unfortunately, very often it is they who cannot read the sources. They don?t read sufficiently. They keep reverting to Vivekananda and Aurobindo and people like that.


As I said earlier, one of the main criticisms levelled against Thapar is that she has no first hand knowledge of Sanskrit. Now our lady turns tables by saying the charge is an “absurdity.” This is clear when you read this a rather longish passage I have reproduced:
Thapar claims that the Aryans were curious about the elephant and called it mriga hastin, the animal with one hand [...]Why not? After all, the Aryans invaded India from outside, and the elephant, an Indian animal, should have been new to them. Naturally, this should mean that the Dravidians, who Thapar implies were the earlier residents of IVC/SSC, must have been more familiar with the elephant ahead of the Aryans, right? Thapar has repeated this claim about the elephant having been a novelty to the Aryans earlier too.The Dravidian family of languages is largely confined to Peninsular India. Among them, Tamil has the oldest extant corpus of literature, the Sangam anthologies. These are basically collections of bardic poetries dating from 100 – 250 AD. Sangam literature speaks of Tirupati as the northern boundary of the Tamil country, beyond which was spoken a language other than Tamil. Another Sangam poem talks of the Pandyas fighting their wars deploying the elephants raised in Tirupati. Yet another Sangam song talks of the elephants that were trained in Tirupati. One may ask, while all these references establish that the elephant was trained in, and probably resided too, in the region that was either at the northern most part of the Tamil country or beyond that, how all of this would prove whether or not the Dravidians were ahead of the Aryans in domesticating the elephant. We have references from three more Sangam poems that pronounce the judgment. One of them talks of ?the great male elephant trained by the Aryans with the help of a cow elephant.? Another says that ?the mahouts trained the elephants using Sanskrit. [...] If the Dravidians were the first to have tamed the wild elephant, then there is no need for the Sangam works to talk of the Northern Aryans as its trainers and tamers. Not only that, the oldest Tamil records also speak of having used Sanskrit, and not Tamil, to train them. This only means that the Dravidians learnt the art of domestication of the wild elephant from the Aryans. The last of the references above, which talks of training the elephant with a mixed tongue, suggests that a transition regarding the domestication and the training of the wild elephant was happening between the Aryans, the original domesticators and the Dravidians, who received that art from them. Or, would Thapar like her readers to believe that the Dravidians had somehow forgotten the art of domestication of the elephant, and a 1500 years later, re-learnt it from the Aryans? [...] Those familiar with Tamil as well as Sanskrit can see on what pathetic scholarship Thapar’s argument[78] regards mriga hastin is concocted. The Tamil word for the elephant’s trunk is puzhaikkai, as in literary Tamil or tumpikkai, as in the colloquial. This means, freely translated, tubular hand. Would Thapar argue that the elephants were unknown to the Dravidians as well, as they didn’t have a generic name for its most distinctive part? In any case, it is worth noting that the Rig Veda uses atleast 3 generic terms to refer to the elephant: varana, srni and ibha

[...]

Did the word asva necessarily always mean the horse in the Rig Veda? Sri Aurobindo convincingly argues that the words go and asva are constantly associated in the Vedas, as in gomati or asvavati. So, they can?t refer merely to the physical steed. Instead, he says, that they symbolically refer to light and energy respectively… It is also worth mentioning that the Rig Veda itself explicitly states that its words are metaphors and not literal.

Asva: In the Vedas, the Sun is visualized as being driven by a fleet of seven horses as in the sloka, Saptaasva Rathinam. The reason is not far to seek. Horse is generally associated with speed, vigour, and energy.
Go: The word Go has tens of meanings and one of them is light.

This is why I agree that Thapar lacks first hand knowledge of Sanskrit. If she had mastered the Amarakosha (the Sanskrit dictionary/thesaurus), she’d have probably avoided getting caught making these elementary semantic mistakes. Or she perhaps knows Amarakosha, as she herself claims, and yet makes these mistakes?

And it is interesting to note the tone in which she refers to Vivekananda and Aurobindo and “people like that.” The rest of her responses contain more invectives potshots about “backward looking,” “unscientifc,” “old methods.” And the self-righteousness?

I was startled by the fact that I was the icon of hatred. I kept asking myself what I had done to deserve this. But I was absolutely overwhelmed by the kind of support I got.

You spin fantasies and call it history, this is what you get. I stand corrected. It isn’t fantasy. Many of her “scholarly” books contain abuse against the BJP! A mention of the BJP in “history” books about ancient India! Not to forget her active pamphleteering in the Ayodhya dispute. And our lady claims that the Marxists deny that she is on their side, so to speak. That doesn’t explain the fact that passages from her scholarly treatises are quoted in support of this or that assertion that they make in say, www.countercurrents.org or www.cpim.org. This statement also presents a logical problem. One, you don’t have to be a “party member” to be called Marxist. And two, even if the Marxists don’t admit that you are a Marxist historian, it doesn’t obliterate the fact that you’ve depicted Indian history in terms of class conflict, which is one of the pillars of Marx’s theory.

The real danger perhaps is not that Thapar is a Marxist historian. It is when you give cognizance to a fraud like Thapar by calling her a historian.

Postscript: And don’t forget to read the comments the interview has received.

3 comments

  1. Rahul

    Phew!! Very exhaustive & well written.

  2. Anonymous

    Romila Thapar refusing the award is nothing short of fraud. The government usually contacts awardees and gets their consent a few months in advance. It is clear that she accepted the award when she was contacted by the bureaucrats in order to pull off this stunt.

    Fraud by pseudo-secularists is nothing new. Take the case of Gujarat. Muslims set Hindus on fire. First they gloated over it and said it just served the Hindus right that they were burnt and then they justified it, then they came up with an elaborate sequence of events, then people like Arundhati Roy lied again and again by spinning stories (she is a repeat offender. Back in 1998, she ended up apologizing to LK Advani after spinning some story against him, then it was someone else, then the Jaffri story, then something about her friend sobbing on the phone), then they came up with a “report” which contained fabrications, and now they even deny that Muslims were involved!

    Consider the fact that Congress High Command perpetrated this crime at Godhra as well as the post-Godhra riots. People like Dilip D’Souza deliberately claim that Hindus burnt themselves and that Congress member, Mohd Hussein Kolota is innocent. Sure, why not? After all, his father rose through the bureaucracy ranks thanks to Congress. Besides, Dilip D’Souza’s father was CEO of a housing project run by prominent Maharashtra politicians.

    D’Souza will also pretend to be “neutral” by claiming that all religions perpetrate hatred. That shows his bigotry and fraudulent nature because all religions don’t perpetrate hatred. Only the semitic religions do that.

    Dilip D’Souza’s hatred is understandable – as a Christian, laws in India favor him. He can open a school or college at will, but you cannot. He can run religious institutions, but money from temples are confiscated. So it is natural that he kicks and screams when someone wants to change these laws. Why would he give up something wonderful? He even left USA and preferred to live in India! He can sit in India and call BJP folks terrorists knowing fully well that he will be safe, but if a Hindu writes anything against the Congress government, they will be picked up for “interrogation” (e.g.: Gurumurthy).

    Fraud comes naturally to pseudosecularists. So it is not surprising to see Romila Thapar pull off this cheap stunt after getting the government to announce the awards. Besides, she has already accepted awards from states in the past, including the position of professorship at JNU.

  3. Prakash Narain

    Dear Sir, 8 Novrmber 2008

    The historical tragedy of India by and for vivaykee minds is still to be written.

    It centres on the Vedic concept of Vedanta, Advaita and maya.

    When Indian rishis were a little free from Maya the Vedas were discovered and the simple Advaitic ethos was imbued in the masses to become their second nature.

    When the minds of leaders of society (not noble leaders) were overwhelmed by maya and became ignorance of Vedic Advaita, the mind caused fall in values and weakness and invited invasions to be defeated and conquered.

    When masses in Advaitic ethos were reached by alien masses, the aliens jumped into the Indian ethos of Advaita. Masses of two in fouth century CE with Buddhim to 8 with Jains, Jews, Parsis, Christians, Muslims and after Akbar Sikhs, became strong and prosperous to ignore cruel rulers.

    That victory of the Advaitic masses made European beggars to reach the Vedic prosperity sustained by them till 1619 in Jehangir’s court.

    The masses of eight religions were always Vedic Hindus by being one as embodiment of Ahinsa Parmo Dharma on which the Vedas and Advaita rest.

    When British education scraped Hindu mind of Vedas and Advaita in its knowledge in for practice in life, 170 annual generations from Serampore College in Bengal in 1835 to 2005, the mind (not all noble Hindu leaders) rejected Advaitic oneness treated Muslim leaders as they, distanced them and caused our partition, ensured only Hindus’ ignorance in perpetuity of the Vedas and Advaita by article 28(1) of the Constitution and set us on the irretrievable path for barbarism of divisiveness that demolishes a mosque and burns living human beings.

    It is the mind stupid not the noble Hindu.

    The Vedas’ most precious gift to humanity was only the knowledge of the mind and how to receive its limitless power.

    Tulsidas is teaching us this science for 500 years that is a simple and inescapable corollary fron Advaita because Advaita or the oneness of our reality with that of the limitless God is not a fraud but a truth. This truth was proved recently by the power of Mahatma Gandhi, Azad and Ghaffar Khan – all embodimets of Ahinsa Parmo Dharma but by Advaita in the Gita and the Quran. God is for all and not for India only just because Indian rishis articulted Advaita.

    Muslim leaders in Indua today are awaiting Hindu leaders to revert to Advaita so that they again become one with them as the masses of both till today are one for over 1200 years.

    In just four years we can start curbing and eliminating the prersent blind non Advaitic treacherous mind (including that of Romila Thapars) of 170 years’ vintage by following a path crafted with Muslims in conformity with the Supreme Court judgement of 12 September 2002.

    Only vivaykee patriotic Indian minds of all communities can save India from certain disaster sooner than we can think.

    The law for this purpose is in “Remedy” that arose from “Conclusions” in these two documents in seven pages for vivaykee India to live for. Please read these 7 pages at http://www.indianphilosophy.cc/addendum/.

    I shall answer questions at authorip@hotmail.com

    Please quote for reference http://www.sandeepweb.com/2005/02/02/bravo-romila-thapar/

    Prakash Narain
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