It is official.
Arjun Singh has announced that he’s moving ahead with the Grand Project to Slaughter the IITs and IIMs.
Competition to secure admission to the IITs and IIMs is set to hot up, as reservation in these institutions is likely to increase from the current level of 22.5% to a maximum of 49.5%. The reservation cap in central government jobs stands at 49.5% in the post-Mandal era and this could act as a ceiling for reservations in these educational institutions as well.
Arjun Singh had earlier tried to spoke the IIM (Bangalore) brand but abandoned it for God knows what reason. But he has now fallen back to the 70s’-style of Congress politics: appease, divide and rule, and kick the Constitution around to perpetuate power. State-meddling with the IIM seems to be a recent phenomenon especially notable in the post-liberalization era.
Now, allow me to digress awhile to trace the historical roots of this issue.
The Indian establishment was essentially Statist for most of the post-Independence period. Which meant that acts of (personal) Will were imposed by the dispensation current then (read: the Congress party). These acts of Will were in turn, ostensibly based on what is a vulgar cliche now: Social Justice aka Reservations.
The Indian State used this rhetoric initially in the universities (and elsewhere but that’s not the subject of this entry). No doubt Reservations were meant well but in practice, they transmogrified into mere excuses for crass cronyism. One look at the state of our universities today provides living proof of this. And now, because there’s nothing left of the universities to destroy, the political class has turned to dip its dirty nose into what are perhaps the very few institutions of merit in India. The excuse is the same again: Social Justice.
I don’t need to spell out what this means. From the Economic Times article I linked:
…this would mean that while students of the reserved categories can look forward to a higher number of seats, others may need to burn the proverbial midnight oil longer to secure admission.
This is not an argument to discriminate against deserving but un/underprivileged students. Rather, the thrust is against fostering the same tendencies which has caused much ruin to the country as a whole: a system not based on merit. How underprivileged or backward is a Mayawati or Lalu and all their family/relatives? These are people who got elected on the ostensible promise of uplifting their truly unfortunate bretheren. I struck up a chat with one UP guy who owns a paan shop. He told me he was a Brahmin and that his brother is an MLA back home, elected from (surprise?!) Mayawati’s party. He added that Brahmins are slowly voting for her abandoning the “elite/brahmin” BJP. She who routinely bashes the Manuvaadis. What this brand of Social Justice should be called is anybody’s guess.
Returning to the post-liberalization thread, Murli Manohar Joshi had set in motion a similar meddling exercise but Arjun Singh’s move will prove far more damaging than Joshi’s. The reason for messing around with institutions like the IITs and IIMs is not far to seek: everybody wants a cut in the suddenly-prosperous India and what better places to put political cronies than these institutes of excellence (we might soon be talking of “excellence” in the past tense)? With just the right setting and political pressure, the IIMs/IITs will soon turn out Like the Public Sector White Elephants which continue to suck up taxpayer money.
Well, I might be exaggerating but the gory scenario I worded out has every chance of becoming reality: the manner in which this is done is entirely consistent with yet another filthy legacy of the Congress party: subverting the Constitution to achieve personal/political gains:
The constitutional amendment route was taken following the Supreme Court’s ruling in the Inamdar case, where the apex court ruled that the government could not set quotas in private institutions.
And at what speed!
Sources said the minister has requested the states to formulate the laws at the earliest, presumably ahead of admissions for the ‘06-07 academic session.
Such haste err.. efficiency is unheard of given the way the government functions in India. One wonders why this efficiency is not applied to other areas, for example, the Golden Quadrilateral project which lies in anguish. Obviously, projects like GQ are meant for the evil rich who want better roads for their high-speed swanky cars and the current dispensation’s manifest poll manifesto was… what was the thing about aam aadmi?
Quotas, not merit helps the nation achieve Social Justice.
Instead of all this nonsense of subversion etc, I propose a simple solution which will enable everybody to study at the IITs and IIMs: convert/declare yourself backward. Better still, obtain a certificate from the government that declares you so. It’s available for a price.
Cross-posted in Desicritics.
Tags: Commentary, Election 2004, Indian Politics, Society & Culture, Weblogs
50 people in Delhi, 20 in Varanasi and God knows how many more to come. The Indian Blogosphere comments on this mass murder: Die #$* Infidels!, Terrorists attack Varanasi, Caught in the cross-fire, Bomb blasts in Hindu holy city,What the Varanasi attack really is
physical security in public places - the media is gunning at the wrong issues. And after all this, they innocuously wonder if they are under attack from the ‘establishment’. Well, they are certainly underattack from the Army of Davids , well we don’t have the size yet, but we are hopeful of getting there.
here. A brief post by Nitin. A must read by Greatbong, and when I say must it means must. Expectedly usual bunch of secularists are either silent or coming up with this. Another Update: Sandeep hasexpressed his frustation with the “secular media”. The priest of secularism has spoken. The message, “While India needs to take all possible steps to hunt down the terrorists and to secure our people, we must understand the likely nature of these provocations and not create an excuse for
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The reservationist brigade has a brand new target to demolish - the IITs and the IIMs. Sandeeptalks about the issue, and delves into the hisory of it.
Those bastards! At times like these, I wholeheartedly agree with Atanu Dey’s public flogging solutions for the Indian polity. I’d throw in genital mutilation as well.
As long as the Congress party is full of spineless ******, this will continue. India will be forever degraded by pathetic education policies and our competitiveness will keep coming down.
Great blog… keep up the good work.
is arjun singh a SC/ST/OBC/ *add any shit you like here*. may be he is trying to get his son/relative/dog in… happens all the time.
People like Arjun Singh wouldn’t have come to power had the majority of middle class exercised its mandate. We have a Congress-led government tailed by the communists just because people who could have made a significant difference didn’t feel motivated enough to take a round to the polling booth. I wonder why we are crying now.
The IIMs and the IITs should stand united as they did when Murli Manohar Joshi woke up one morning and decided to meddle with the administration of these institutions. Personally I have nothing against the OBCs, SCs etc., but instead of giving them these populist facilities the grassroots education infrastructure should be drastically reformed so that they too can compete normally. If Arjun Singh really cares about the country he should leave the institutions of higher education alone and concentrate on improving the schools and the paathshalas, and of course, the madarsas.
I second Vulturo on that. I sure hope the institutions take their stands and don’t give in to pressure.
Mr. Arjun Singh is a *(&%#$&^$#$#@#$. I dont know why politicians dont understand these institutions are what they are coz of the people involved - the faculty and students. Mere reservations cannot ensure that the students are capable of facing the rigors of IIT education. If the government is serious, perhaps they should first do something about the state of primary education, rather than indulging in reservation gimmicks.
In today’s day and age in India, you cant be worse off than being a Hindu male belonging to the “General Category”.
What next? quotas for Pakistanis?
Lol! Good one Vikrant. I think that would be the next logical step.
I sometimes feel the root cause of all the problems in India is “DEMOCRACY”. Yes, at the cost of sounding like Bal Thackray, [
] , i still feel there’s merit in his call sometime back saying that only way to rule India is via dictatorship. No wonder Totalitarian regimes do not face problems like illegal immigrants, terrorism, minority appeasement etc.
Totalitarian regimes do not have to worry about elections, hence no-vote banks and no appeasement. Dictatorship may not be all that bad after all
What next? quotas for Pakistanis?
No LOL here. I believe the govt was considering this during the Indo-Pak peace process. Just do a google on Pak quota in IIT’s/IIM’s and you should get a result
Shivam Vij and Dilip D’souza will be happy.
Here is my solution.
Pass a law to correct the injustices of 3000 years* discriminate against upper castes for coming 3000 years. Simple and elegant.
Regards
Yes. Shivam Vij is jubilant about the new legislation to recruit SC/ST’s in the private sector. He is happy that there will be a diversification in the work force. Hmm no issue that companies have to worry more about the bottom-line and less about workplace diversity. Dilip -dsouza - read his unconventional wisdom about the Census of muslims in the army.
Yes. Once the word gets out that students here are from the reserved category, will the corporate sector come in droves like how they are currently doing? This will end the IIT/IIM brand names.
Just when we thought India was finding its rightful place in the world comes all of this.
But the guys at the other India blog will be happy. As per them they only look at farmer suicides, riots and the like. It is a different thing that wherever the govt has not interfered - IT, Call Centre’s and other servicesand pushed retrograde resolutions, the private people have simply excelled.
No wonder India has proved to be a ‘Paper tiger’
But IIM is a public institution, run from tax money. It is only fair that overall govt policy should apply to the IITs and IIMs as well. Those who don’t like these policies are free not to go to these places. Nobody’s forcing you to go to IIM: there are so many private managment institutes, including, well, IIPM!
But IIM is a public institution, run from tax money
Thanks for that. Then i think it is logical that all members of the Tax paying fraternity. ie.: my children etc should have the right to ‘fairly compete in getting admission into these institutes’ - not cases where there is a high percentage of reservation and the rest are just fighting for a small quota.
If I have to send my son to a private institute, why should I pay any taxes to fund the IIM’s and IIT’s that I know my son has absolutely no chance of getting in but Lalu and Mulayams progeny’s are privileged to enter.
Ultimately - this comes from a professor of an international Business school, the brand name of IIT’s and IIM’s are because of the best people that graduate from it - nothing more nothing less. If this itself is not going to be guaranteed then let the brand name go to the dogs.
Further to my earlier post - this is NOT the policy of IIT/IIM. It is Arjun Singh’s policy of ramming a legislation through. The IIT/IIM should remain as united as they were during MM Joshi’s time. Please let them not be blinded by ’secularism’.
What has happened to Arjun Singh’s proposal to reserve seats in private school’s etc?
Shivam
If govt policy is always right, why do you, Dilip and others at other india cry about farmer suicides etc? If govt policy is causing suicides, do we correct the policy or do we say that ‘well this is govt policy -so if you done like it - well you are not committing suicide. The same goes for the Narmada project that Dilip has written so much about. Please think about it before passing stupid statements like the one above.
i hate these new policies
i dont know what these people are upto. this new idea stinks man.they surely cant do this to the IIT?IIM
Sandeep
As long as there is competition for those who belong to the backward/scheduled caste and scheduled tribe categories and as long as the best students belonging to such caste categoires are identified, it might not be too bad after all. It might still be possible to salvage the standards of IIT/IIM.
But as you said, the other option would be for everyone to declare himself/herself as a “backward”. How true. I do not understand a country that celebrates “backwardness”
Best regards
this son of a bitch…arjun singh………is…..doing a shit job at the office…God knws wat may ahppen to this institution when the teachers too are taken based on reservation and upliftment.
the whole episode is a nonsense….do student become intelligent overngt…this fuckin bastard arjun singh …has to be hanged
i feel really sick….i feel sorry for those student who have been dreamin to enter iit and who may miss that oppurtunity…due to this fuckin ass hole…ARJUN SINGH
Another way in which this quota is going to hurt - why would good minds be interested in teaching a class with 50% students who got there bcos of their caste backgrounds? Professors in IITs, in many cases, have done their PhDs from the best universities in the world and come to IITs bcos of the challenging teaching opportunities it provides them. why would they be interested now?
Ram,
Please abstain from using foul language.
Lets murder Arjun Singh
Do u know what is the difference between the marks of Sc/St students and general students in JEE ….That is with 22.5% reservation with 49.5% reservation i don’t think they need to prepare for these exams at all
Do u know what is the difference between the marks of Sc/St students and general students in JEE ….That is with 22.5% reservation with 49.5% reservation i don’t think they need to prepare for these exams at all
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Guys Thank GOD I am not in India and my kids wont be studying there. HRD ministry itself trying to screw up outstanding institutes for political gains. Man! Doesnt get nastier than that.
I read a good one in one of the posts. After few years in every upper-class family with more than 1 daughter, 1 daughter will be reserved for marrying to SC/ST/OBC.
this quota thing is really making me sick.
a few years back there was a concern for female infanticide, now sonn we will be hearing of parents killing there general category child because he is born in a country where there is no value for him.
Dear Friends,
THIS NATION INDIA IS NOT ONLY OF UPPER CAST HINDUS . FROM THOUSANDS OF YEARS THE UPPER CAST HINDUS ARE ENJOYING THE BENEFITS OF BIAS EDUCATION POLICY WHICH HAS PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN MAINTAINING INEQUALITY AND INJUSTICE.THIS NATION COMPRISES MORE OF 70% LOWER CASTES.80%OF WEALTH OF THE NATION COMES FROM THE SWEAT AND BLOOD OF THE ‘kashtakari’ LOWER CLASS .UPTIL NOW 4 CRORES OF DALITS AND ADIVASIS HAVE BEEN DISPLACED FOR THE SO CALLED DEVELOPMENT OF THE NATION.THE UPPER CASTE ARE THE BENEFICIARIES OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. YET THEY ARE NOT SATISFIED AND HENCE ASKING FOR MORE SACRIFICE FROM THIS LONGLY SUPPRESSED CLASS.EDUCATION IS THE ONLY WAY FOR THE UPLIFTMENT OF THIS 70 % CLASS AND HENCE THE PROGRESS OF OUR NATION. IT SHOULD NOT BE FORGOTTEN THAT ‘EQUALITY AND SOCIAL JUSTICE ‘ IS THE SOUL OF OUR CONSTITUTION!!!
After reading all the above comments I find that all of you are worried about merit.But there is no question of merit as more than 80%of professional educational institutions have been privatised and commercialised.Money is the only merit for seeking admissions in these institutions.It is known fact that a medical seat is being auctioned for Rs.30 lacs or more for a student who has secured even 40% marks. Thus there has emerged a new reservation policy of the rich upper caste class.Uptill now you have suppressed the 70% lower class using the tool of castism proclaimed by Manusmriti.And now as this tool is ineffective you have devised a new tool (Market smriti) taking the advantage of economic inequality for further suppression. So stop pretending about the question of merit!!
Is the upliftment of the nation possible without the upliftment of 70% of downtroddens?
DEVELOPMENT OF THE FEW IS NOT THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALL.
We strongly oppose any kind development at the cost of equality and justice.
Please think of it and maintain the fraternity.Afterall we all are Indians.
Hi guys,
LETS RAISE A SLOGAN AGAINST RESERVATIONS,LET MERIT EXIST
Guys let this government give them all the financial help,who stops!!!!!,but this reservation policy shouldn’t be encouraged.
we know exactly where ‘Dr’. Dabhade and the Disha dame are coming from. These are the guys who are fed half- baked statistics and lies in the ghettos that they come from, and these guys harbour a deep resentment against the whole of society those places are quite similar to the breeding grounds for terrorists in Kashmir. Look at the garbage about 4 crores of their types being displaced. When? Where? And who ’s these guys who allegedly benefited? and as for Ms. Disha’s contention about the auctioned medical seats going to upper castes, most of these go to sons and daughters of public sector employees earning’extra’ income, who’ve made it to their posts via the reservation system.
Dear friends,
why using abusing language?
Is this our culture?Is this education has given?
we are living in democracy; so u may use democratic ways of agitations which I shall welcome.I will be happy if u study and then make the comments.
It is well known fact that 44% of population is below poverty line;only 0.7% of SC, ST youths enroll in higher education . the NCERT study reveals that 20% uppercaste-class is enjoying 80% of higher education.It is absolutely wrong that the reservation people are taking admissions by paying 30lacs with the help of extra income they are earning from public sector. Do u mean that no one is there from upper caste employed in PSU’s?
We are ready to fight for our rights-but with democratic ways.
The statistcs given earlier and now are from the various national and international published reports. U may verify it.The differences in opinion and thoughts will always be there and it is not harmful for the nation and society.Thesis and anti-thesis leads to synthesis which contributes in the development of society.We are not the enemies. Our enemies are poverty, casteism , capitalism, imperalism, unemployment,child labour,sucide of farmers and illiteracy. we are fighting because we have only half Bhakri. Why not fight for more Bhakries against the capitalist ruling class? The ruling class is not ready to spend 6% of GDP on education and 4% on health as committed in kothari Commission report in 1968. The Nobel prize winner Dr. Amartya Sen says that real development is impossible if the State does not give priority to health and education.The state is withdrawing itself from the constitutional responsibility of Welfare State under the dictates of WTO and GATS ;the big business houses;multinational companies.The market forces want to capture the big buisiness of education nearly of Trillion $ - That is the driving force for State’s withdrawal. The time is not far away when the water,the farming,the energy,etc. will be totally in the hands of capitalists. Then in coming days we will be forced to fight for water also. Do we want this?
Hence we should not fight inbetween.Let us join the hands for fighting against the enemies mentioned above.
well, i really think it’s a matter of just 5 years before these guys realise what they’ve done.
what a pity! was he in his right frame of mind when he did that?
The reservation for SC/ST to the premier institutes like IIM’S and IIT’S is seriously disastrous.
For me it is like getting admission for a 5 year old child to 10th or 12th class, just giving importance to admission rather than giving importance to knowledge,merit,hardwork.
If the Govt. is so much concerned about the welfare of the SC/ST then:-
1) Why don’t they support them financially,
2) Why don’t they lay down some plans as to how they could develop their knowledge ,selfconfidence
3) Is the only way they could think of giving confidence and knowledge to SC/ST is via reservation - then what do they do with the money set aside annually - if reservation is given to SC/ST groups in schools, colleges and institutes then what do they actually do with that set money.
If Arjun Singh is so caring and concerned about the plight of the SC/ST then why doesn’t he resign, let some disheartened SC/ST candidate take his place so that maybe he will do more justice for the SC/ST groups.
Why is Arjun Singh trying to fire from the back of the general public by stating that they are elite group, just by sending the kids to the tuitions by spending good amount of money does not make a family elite - IT IS A KIND OF INVESTMENT WHICH A FAMILY SUPPORTS , IT IS THE THOUGHT THAT THEY BELIEVE IN AND WHICH THEY WHOLE HEARTEDLY SUPPORT, BECAUSE EVERY THOUGHT AND WORK ON THAT THOUGHT RESULTS IN CAPITAL, SO WHY DOESN’T THIS COMMON SENSE APPLY TO SC/ST GROUPS
It is like letting them have ready made stuff and letting us the general public have stuff made from regorous hardwork and decipline.
So, To conclude i think that this policy as stated by the HRD minister is a way to get their vote banks filled up, without taking into consideration that it is the future of the country that should be taken into account and not the past our the immediate present.
Disha
‘more than 80%of professional educational institutions have been privatised and commercialised.Money is the only merit for seeking admissions in these institutions.It is known fact that a medical seat is being auctioned for Rs.30 lacs or more for a student who has secured even 40% marks. ‘
But these are Private insititutes - where only the rich go. These do not have the IIT/IIM brand name. The IIT’s/IIM’s are where the middle class people struggle to get in -in the hope of bettering their future.
Nishant - could not have put it better. The best part is the number of backwards are increasing and not decreasing. Is it not a case that a generation that has benefitted from reservation at least give it up. Should not there be a revision of the backward class list to check if communities that were backward are still backward today?
As Parimal Gupta said, dictator ship is not a bad idea either since India is not ready for democracy. If at all ready it should scrap the current constitution which was written (long before 1947) for (almost) slaves and create from the scratch based on the real current social requirements.
The corrupt incompetent traitor who calls politicians (communists and congress) invited 30+ million illegal immigrants who finished 100% Hindu Genocide in their home country (the height in the man kind history) and on the way to continue in India. The lowlife politicians have no vision to uplift the country. Most of them still have similar ideas like colonial rulers/evils have towards Indians, divide and rule. The only difference is their skin color.
Why does the reservations to be given based on the religious faith? Isn’t this a perfect pseudo-secular state? The other meaning of reservation is a systematic process of eliminating best qualified people from tax payer’s institutions and fill with garbage. The people pretentious to be victimized are because the lowlife politicians say so. Go to any place on the planet, there is no massive reservation system like in India. There are always differences among the people in every country. The children born to the same mother are different. The differences are natural. This is universal principle. The lowlife politician tells you we need to make everybody equal to get his job by selling this unworkable idea. Hypothetically even if you make every body equal 10:00AM, by 11:00AM you will see the difference. There is nothing you could do. People make different choices that make them different. This is how things work in this world. This is how we (including all species on the planet) evolve.
One other scenario could be, the Sonia Bogus-Gandhi took two jobs which is unconstitutional and one has to bring her to the justice. The Arjun Singh is using reservations is to make the public not to think about the issue and get more votes from people who like them. Probably it’s the time for a civil war to exterminate all evils from the country forever.
Giving a free ride in both education and ‘job’ in public sector (companies for non existing markets! AKA white elephants) didn’t help these communities. The problems are self inflicting. These communities have more children than they can afford and have a lazy life style. Eventually they think the society (who works hard) should take care of them.
Nothing comes for free in this word no matter which class you are from. One has to work smart and hard to make the things happen.
In India the elementary and high school education is already free. (Not sure if the junior college is also free in the entire country?)
NOW it’s the time for you tell us the answer, why didn’t you get the right score to get into the college that you are looking for. It’s a legitimate question. Don’t blame anybody, blame your self.
Guys,
Lets make it clear that ” GOD HAS EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED THE BRAIN TO EVERYONE ” .If they have Brain Let them Compete and prove it ,, Why do they need an Extra Push to prove themselves . This shows that they dont have Brain and our Government wants to send these brainless people to the Elite Institutions Like IITs and IIMs . Let the Reservation be according to Economy, not based on Caste .
“IF THEY DONT SCRAP THE RESERVATION PEOPLE WILL LEAVE THE NATION ” .
This is an Indirect Reservation in Private Sectors . STOP THEM !!!!!!!!
Arjun Singh is a mother-fucker bastard who has not done even a 1% work which can be beneficial to the country. Arjun Singh, Manmohan Singh, and VP Singh, three singh brothers, are trying to fuck with entire country. Manmohan is surely involved in this decision of reservation. Without his consent, it cant go ahead. and yes, even if it does, we still should held Manmohan responsible for being PM. Manmohan tries to portray that he is progressive minded but all congress fuckers are the same…reservations, minorities, and bullshit politics…..kick the bastards out.
Ansu says people will leave. Why would the low life congress and communist politicians care, that they are already filing up the country with people from our neighbors and not so neighbors who is on the way for final assault on rest of the remaining Hindus. Leaving the country isn’t some thing that you give up make the evil win. Hundred and thousands of illegal students are already in the India schools getting free education paid by India tax payers without knowing.
The reservation is a disease it needs surgery. Currently it hurting the country, without surgery it could parallelize for long period and miss every economic opportunity on the way.
Here is a question for the people not so high class. If the high class (I don’t believe in classes personally. Some people made low class by them selves) are exterminated from the society in the next 100 yeas. Do you think there wouldn’t be any more low and high class among the rest of you?
If you are an intelligent person the answer is NO. The classes still exists. For that matter it’s not the classes. It’s the choices. Every thing in the life changes bases on what choices you make every hour. As I said it’s a universal phenomenon. Go and see any country they are there, they are every where. Some stupid low life politicians are trying to sell their story of equality under the name of socialism and communism (different brand names with same end horrible result). It’s just impossible. Show one legitimate example in the world. All communist countries killed enormous amount of people to achieve equality and failed miserable. The only place communism still alive is India. People should chase them to the caves like rest of the world did.
Do you think the positive discrimination ends if 100% of taxpayers public schools given to low class people. Obviously No! The low life politicians find more ways to come after the high class to please low class. Nationalizing the properties, restrictions on how they live, where should they live what should they do … etc. the list is on and on there are plenty of opportunities out there in the name of equality.
Unfortunately no single India politician has any entrepreneurial back ground. They don’t have any idea how to make things happen and create an environment where every body compete and excel. Most of them are pretty much connected with underworld mafia at some level. What do you expect out of these scum’s? these low life’s create more problems than they solved. Right from the Gandhi (who obsessed by dividing Hindu community and never solved his sex problems and protected all Brits from real Indian freedom fighters for his name and fame) and Nehru (have no idea what India look like, lost ever war and lost tens of thousands of sq. km land and spent all his time to find asses around to f..k, now I have to take a visa to visit my God worship place) – in essence these are two brown color Brits. Btw Brits left around 1947 lot of countries including India because of the backfire coming from allover the world not because of moron Gandhi.
The very same morons now they are thinking to extend reservations to IIT/IIMS also into America. Sure you can go on reservation to America and get two (the second one is just to make sure) bullets under your rear end if you fail to perform what you said you would do to get the job. America is build with strong work ethics. This is not India public sector Company to do nothing and make fatter ass and expect tax payer pay you pay check.
You low class people stop dreaming to go IITs/IIMs for that matter any tax payer public institution. Even not all high class guys can make it. Do you know why? There are few thousand seats vs million of applicants. Get to the college where you get qualified.
Let us abolish all reservations altogether, try to work hard like everybody else and create a positive environment to excel and prosper. Favor your country by respecting the hard work and honesty. If you think somebody discriminating you go and sue them. At least I heard few of the cases that they get sued because of in appropriate behavior. There are enough laws already in place to take care of you; if not talk to law makers to make one. How long you want to call low class by your self. Have more self respect. Its desirable but we don’t need 100% educated people in India and we don’t need tons of people from IIT and IIMs either. There is a lot of real crap in the education system which generates only fraction of good people. We need to reorganize the whole education system from the ground up which serves best to the modern India. Education is very critical to make a modern country which can play well in the both domestic and international economy, politics, culture etc. This exactly what Japan did after WW-II.
One of the things that we can do is find the all the external revenue sources like World Bank loans, foreign direct investment etc. and lobby American law makers to stop funds unless Indian law makers stop massive positive discrimination on 100 of millions of Indians. Anybody out there who can take initiative? Turning back is not a solution; that is a failure. We should do some thing here.
hey ravi,
i agree to u r point that turning back is not the solution,but
Can any intelligent person work in a place where they have to share intelligence and work with insane people who just can’t understand even the simplest thing without support.These guys will not let u work to u r best,so the best solution is Leave the nation and let this nation be full of morons like r politicians and reserved people.
When these guys doesn’t care for merit why the hell should meritorius people care them.
arjun singh sathiyaa gaya hai .i want to kill arjun singh.he is making such policies for getting votes from chamars.what about bjp?it alwys oppose congress policies but when it is the right time to oppose it is doing nothing .all these bastard politicians only want votes and votes.i strongly urge the youth of india to violantly protest these reservations
What is really ridiculous is that the private sector — big businesses both old economy and new economy seem completly unintrested in setting up tech/management schools. Even the vaunted ISB in hyderabad which is supposedly an pvt. sector initiative is built on land allocated by the the AP govt. why is there no initiative from the private sector to really setup quality schools whithout their going with begging bowls to the govt for land grants etc. As regards approvals/ recognition from AICTE /UGC etc. for the B.E/B.Tech stream they can easily make use of the opportunities provided by the Indian govt currently in the form of AMIE/AMIETE.
this bastard arjun singh is trying to divide the indian society for his gain (is umar me PM banna chata hai) abey kisi be din mar jayega koi puchega be nahi. aur indian society me toot dalwa jayega. Aur ye PM Manmohan Singh bhi paglon ke sath reh ke pagal ho gaya hai.
Generals get UNITED & REVOLT or ready to ……………………….SUCIDE…………………………………………….
This reservation will not end in IIT/IIM’s.As If theses low merit based obc got admissions then also no company will give job to them.Hence the only way will be giving reservation in private sectors also.
If Private sector get reservation then there will no way for general category students to earn for there leaving.Hence result will be either sucide or revolt against government & so fluctuating constituion.
HENCE, BROTHER & SISTERS ,COME RAISE VOICE AGAINST 49.5% RESERVATION.
ALL OF GENERAL STUDENTS SHOULD GET UNITED UNDER ONE ORGANSTAION ALL OVER INDIA & START MASS DEMONSTARTION AGAINST GOVERNMENT ON THIS ISSUE.
Remember if we are not united this exploitaion of us will not end never.so far we are divded .If ploiticians get knoweledge of our power they wiil have no courage to think of such explotaion. ONE SUCH EVENT IS THAT VOTING SHOULD OCCUR IN RAIBAIREELY (U.P) THAT SONIA GANDHI GAT DEFATED OR IF SHE WINS THEN BY MINOR VOTES.As head of congress party SONIA is totally responsible of this.
Another measure is that kill that Arjun Singh & V.P Singh as they are general s & doing so injustice to us.
The attack on the move to introduce reservation for other backward castes in higher education institutes funded by the central Government and the media frenzy on this topic is on the expected line. It is an orchestrated move to deny the rights of OBC.
The middle/upper middle class forming about 25% of the population, is trying to hijack the government to serve their own economical interest. Since Chidambaram took over as FM, globalisation process has taken a jumpstart and the gap between this group and the remaining population has widened, prompting the 2006 Survey of ESCAP (UN) to warn “the Governments concerned need to intervene in order to make the growth process more equitable by significantly expanding the provision of, and access to, public goods, particularly for and by the poor”.
The Middle/upper middle class who served the British empire and helped them to enslave indian people in return for social and economical benefits, should not grudge if benefits are given to the Backward communities by a democratically elected government. If the BC candidates are not intelligent enough they will not pass the exam and discourage others from joining IIT/IIMs.
The bogey of fall in standard of IIT IIM is deliberately created by the greedy middle class afraid of losing the benefits they have usurped. If 22.5% reservation for SC/ST did not bring down the standard, an additional 27 % will not do that. Arjun Sing did not say he will accept those failing the entrance test or will grant grace mark for the benefit of candidates belonging to OBC.
Hey Guys , Its time for us to unite and protest against this.
Only for his political gain “Arjun Singh the devil” has framed such an ammendmend. Please please protest against this.
People like V.P Singh , Arjun SIngh and Verrppa Moily in Karnataka should be punished like anything. I wish they should not die a easy death. God should punish such a people.
We aggree whole heartedly regarding the protests!!.. If some1 needs to uplift the classes, better primary education is the option, not reserved seats in higher education- (which decide our immidiate future) where unnecessary backrankers are allowed to study along with the best brains of the country. Seats will be wasted as some st/sc/obs will fail to even appear because CLEARLY its not something they are very motivated towards!! What is the logic behind this move.. is it just the votes of NUMBERS of people- who can’t even think for themselves.. Democracy exixts amongst EQUALS.. that doesnt seem to be the case here!!!
The protests should be MUCH STRONGER!!
The attack on the move to introduce reservation for other backward castes in higher education institutes funded by the central Government and the media frenzy on this topic is on the expected line. It is an orchestrated move to deny the rights of OBC.
The middle/upper middle class forming about 25% of the population, is trying to hijack the government to serve their own economical interest. Since Chidambaram took over as FM, globalisation process has taken a jumpstart and the gap between this group and the remaining population has widened, prompting the 2006 Survey of ESCAP (UN) to warn “the Governments concerned need to intervene in order to make the growth process more equitable by significantly expanding the provision of, and access to, public goods, particularly for and by the poor”.
The Middle/upper middle class who served the British empire and helped them enslave Indian population in return for social and economical benefits, should not grudge if benefits are now given to the Backward communities by a democratically elected government. If the OBC candidates are not intelligent enough they will not pass the exam and discourage others from joining IIT/IIMs.
The bogey of fall in standard of IIT IIM is a deliberately created ploy by the greedy middle class afraid of losing the benefits they have usurped. If 22.5% reservation for SC/ST did not bring down the standard, an additional 27 % will not do that. Arjun Sing did not say he will accept those failing the entrance test or will grant grace mark for the benefit of candidates belonging to OBC.
I think people fail to see the one positive side-effect (if any) of reservation. It enforces diversity in our institutions. No matter how much we talk about a shining India, the hard truth is that India is divided along caste-lines. One way for us to mitigate centuries of mutual distrust between castes is to enforce better co-operation between them. Reservation or not, we need a way to enforce this.
Enforcing diversity is not something that is unique to India. It has been implemented in the educational institutions of other multi-cultural societies also (read USA).
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Guys ! This reservation is not a small issue, it is a phenomenon of allowing, protecting and promoting underperformance. If the government succeeds in implementing quota in private education, it will definitely bring quota in Private Job sector.
Its effect would be that our quality will go down and foreign companines would stop giving their projects to Indian companies. All the much talked buoyancy of Indian Economy will go away.
Hence, i request everyone who is reading this to participate in protest against this policy.
We need great co-ordination if we want to succeed. For it is necessary to form an online group first where we can discuss things. I have created this yahoo group solely for this purpose. Please join here and ask your friends also to join so that we can spread nation wide awareness. Yahoo group link :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/noreservation/
I have a simple question to ask from Mr Arjun Singh. Does he want civil war? I has seen that on TV these so called SC/ST/OBC leaders are openly (on live TV) saying that if the 50% reservation is not done then there will be civil war.
If this is the intend of the reservation quota, then I think that we Indians were better off in British Raj. They knew that we Indians are nothing but full of shit. I was so proud to be an Indian till I came to know I was a higher caste guy so I have to slog my ass of to get into college while my SC/ST friends had a day in the park getting admission in the best colleges. I didn’t care before that who was a SC/ST or OBC but since that day I have been made aware of this injustice. I am really concerned that a peson who gets admission on the basis of caste and not merit can he/she do justice to the field they are in. I am so sceptical of the SC/ST, OBC students that if I have to go to a doctor, I first ask if the doctor is SC/ST or OBC, cause I don’t know how proficient he/she is in his/her field.
Giving reservation to all SC/ST and OBC just on the basis of caste and not economic standing is absolutely dumb, and nothing more than an attempt to gain political mileage at the cost of the countries youth. My village is full of upper caste people but who do subsistence farming. Will they ever get justice from a goverment like this. They want to push us to the brink of existence. These politicians want the INdian youth to be divided. I call upon the Indian Youth to systematically exterminate these politicians who call for reservation.
IF THERE WILL BE A CIVIL WAR, LET THE FIRST HEADS TO ROLL BE THAT OF VP SINGH AND ARJUN SINGH.
Well… i think government must implement 49% reservation in politics first and then everywhere but am sure government dont have any guts to do this as they find their kursi in troble. Then nobody will oppose. Why not to start in politics first?
What logic Mr. Arjun Singh would offer for continuing resrevation for SC/ST/OBC persons who have already received benefits of reservation policy? How this government or politicains will know when deprived people have become equal and efforts to uplift them succeded?
Why do GOI not declare that persons enjoying fruits of reservation and such persons who pay income tax would not be further given resrevation?
If this logic does not suit then people belonging to resreved quota should also be given 50% discount in all taxes because GOI’s uinform policy of taxation is aginst the basic spirit and logic behind reservation.
Will anybody file a PIL in Supreme court and ask 50% dicount in all taxes for reserved quota people?
Let us divide the country more on cast and religion so that every one can become more equal than other!
It is time that we understood the real meaning of the issue.
Soon it will not be a case of mere discrimination against legitimate fundamental rights of so called upper cast citizens, but a case of PERSECUTION. Hitler had started the same way dividing German society and started a drift that changed the course of world history.
These politicians, particularly Congress had more than 50 years to implement a “gesture of good will policy on reservation” drafted after independence but instead of admitting their failure now,they are now trying to make non quota people to suffer more.
Every man lives one life and thus, no state has a right to take away right of equality and right to equal opportunity.
Does parliamentary democracy in India mean that bunch of politicians can kill the legitimate and fundamental rights of a certain section of society and start depriving them?
The constitution of India as it stands now, is crippled severely and it has lost the ability to protect rights of people who are being persecuted by the state on the basis of cast and religion -i.e. so called upper castes and Hindus!
Is it not the time for petitioning the issue in UNHRC? Is it also not a time to start applying to foreign consulates and demand political asylum on the ground of persecution by the state?
Beware world! If situation deteriorates in India by the action of screwed up Indian politicians then the whole world will suffer due to massive migration of people form India.
exactly!
firstly i found this website by typing “arjun singh bastard” in google how many here did the same!!hahaha…..that apart i feel it is a fuckin joke these congress bastards r playing on India,& the only way is to kick them out of power n bring the BJP back,lets all go rapeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sonia gandu hahaha
The so called ‘upper castes’ are becoming aliens in homeland. In such a situation patrotism is meaningless and it is high time to turn against the dirty constitution prepared and modified by the idiots for political gains. We have to prepare an agenda to fight against bastarts like Arjun Singh even if we have to go to extremes
if SC/ST wana reservasation they shud pay more taxes
“All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for enough good men to do nothing”.
Let us take the breath out of the pro-reservation people (remember, they may be honest but misguided) by demanding reservation for economically weaker sections irrsepective of caste/religion. I’m sure that is a better solution than the wrong assumption that “OBC=economically weaker”.
Visit http://www.savebrandindia.org if you want to involve in mass citizens’ movement.
http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article3873.html
y r we stopping at 50 per cent? lets make it 100 per cent. oh wait tatz not enuf either. make it 150 per cent. if this bill of Arjun Ass Singh gets passed and the Congress stays in power another day, then our country should be stipped of it’s democracy status. The politicians talk about empowering weaker section of society and how casteisim is practiced n blah blah blah. Well casteisim is practiced by these politicians…nobody else. Arjun Singh the wheel chair fool can reserve seats for OBC’s and stuff in his house, feed them, educate them. No need to throw them on us who don’t believe in castes.
I would call arjun singh a fucker , rather a basard who eats his own shit and has the blood of the so called OCs Blood as the sidedish while indirectly shitting the future of OBC/SC/ST too…….
I want him to be MURDERED.
look at the other side of the coin.
as rightly said by waldia
HE SAYS CONSTITUTION SUPPORTS RESERVATION
I SAY CONST. ALSO SUPPORTS RIGHT TO EQUALITY AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND MOREOVER THIS IS FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT
I think if the person whos is getting a job on the basis of reservation(OBC,SC,ST) should be mentiond in the certificate that he is OBC, a backward class person so that no person will go to take treatment from him thinking of this caliber. I think the britishers were better than todays politicians. The congress govt is a group wich consist of bitches and devils. They are smartly taking the policy of divide and rule policy which was adopted by britishers before independence. I think our coutnry will never grow if this devils and bitches rule the nation. Arjun singh himself cant walk and now his brains also has slowly stopped working. SOnia gandhi and prime minister is working as it nothing has happend just going to their respective places to achieve votes by doing NAMASTE. All the politicians are bastards.
There was no need of Congress to exist after 1947. Till now they have been screwing the country. All bhikaris begging for vote.
Me and my brother have slogged our asses to secure admissions and on the other hand the so called socially weaker frnds of ours have got thru easily. Also they enjoy getting reimbursements of fees.
What more do they need? Admission hua, kaise waise pass hua..aab naukari bhi milegi….kuch shaadi aur ghar ke liye help chahiye to bolo..we will throw some pennies..
We need to be one and bring BJP to power. Make sure you vote the next election wherever you are.
People like Dr. Dabhade, Disha seem to have good study of the society. If they can study hard why not others. It is shameful Dr. Dabhade that you too support this reservation on caste basis. Who has stopped them from studying…let them study and compete. Why should we tax payers pay for someone who does not deserve that seat?
There shudnt be much surprise if an act like one in Rang De Basanti is depicted.
Ask urslf how many of you did vote the last elections. Those who did not are equal culprits as those who did vote for congress and the three monkeys….with one foreigner MADARI..
Let us boot out Mischievous Ministers who dvelve upon divide and rule.
Britishers have left but handed over Rule to their sons who are 70 now. le us get rid of them otherwise this will land into endless turmoil. No Bastard Should be allowed to speak about cast in any form.
Let us get RID of caste mindset othewise these bastards called politicians will get RID of us all to enable them to do what they want.
Another idea! let Meira Kumar (She won’t have an Indian name like Meera) and Arjun Singh (with undisclosed understanding of PM and super PM) pass an ordinance for MNCs as well to have 50% resrevations for persons who have Indian passport - in India and abroad.
Let us spread the word of Congress’ wisdom all over the world and let our OBC brethern have their rights not only in India but all over the world. This will make IBMs and MS as efficient as we have PSUs in India and world will have equal redistribution of wealth (my opponents may like to use term -poverty).
Let Meiras and Arjuns go to all forums - UNO and likes for making MNCs to implemnet Congress’ agenda worldwide. Nelson Mandela got Noble prize for similar and who knows, we may get lucky and have third Noble Prize soon.
Tatas and Murthys do not understand the spirit of our leaders’ actions. The sovereign right of family rule is only for Congress. My opponents would like to ask Congress (for sake of opposiing any good cause) to publish a list of its preseidents who were not so called upper castes!
Let us redistribute poverty to make everyone equal - Karjun marx
Arjun Singh is a chootiya who deserves to get his ass kicked and shit rubbed in his dirty face
Dear friends,
Its very shamefull where indian politics is heading to..
All political parties are silent on quota issue, (BJP too that is primary opposition)
Belive me all parties are same.. they are just vote grabber.
So comming election and future i have decided to use veto power.
Go to polling booth & have a mark on finger and tell the official that you are not going to vote.
Also i feel meritious student better go abroad and never return back..
India is not home land for you. its home land of reservations
Better accept that “India is nation of reserved”
One thing about congress..
Its full of OLD people, who have rotten idealogy. with italian leader.
Congress is danesty rules. which doesnot have its own identity
Jawaharlal nehru –> A kasmiri converted to british sole (was deeply love with lady mountbatten)
Indira Gandhi –> Hindu converted to Muslim by marring Feroz gandhi (khan, because feroz’s dad was muslim, mom — a parsi )
Rajiv Gandhi –> Called himself parsi (fooled everybody. After his death, he was creminated as per the hindu religion and was live on TV throughout the nation. again millions fooled)
Sonia Gandhi –> a waitress doing certificate couse in harward was in love with Rajiv.
Priyanka Gandhi–> Married to Robert (catholic)
Rahul Gandhi –> A man with lost identity and a latino Girlfriend.
In all, This family is ruling india which has lost its own roots.
i have only one question to ask
why there is no qota in army or the airforce ?
if we can compromise with our education , economic system , health sector than why we can not compromise with national security bec0z nations defence is as good as it’s economy and technology.
Let me see Arjun singh and his congress compatriots come up with this law??
All convent and missionary schools in big cities that only give admmission to the elite, now have to have a 50% quota for SC/ST/OBC.
I am B.Tech from IIT Delhi & have studied in Govt school throughout.At my time many students had secured admission to IIT without any reservations although they were of backgrounds what are called SC/ST & OBCs by present day or not the present day politicians .During my time in IIT as student, reservations were started but in the very next year students of reserved category started accumulating by failing to score pass marks.All children who want to benefit from education should be given training etc. right from start & then should compete at equal footing as any other candidate in competitions.
ARJUN SINGH IS ONE MADARCHOD FUCKING SON OF A BITCH.HE SHOULD BE PUBLICLY FLOGGED NEAR INDIA GATE PARADED NUDE AND THEN SENT FR TREATMENT I THE HANDS OF SC/ST DOCS THAT SUITS THE BASTARD RIGHT.
ABHISHEK
ARJUN SINGH IS A BASTARD. HE MUST BE KICKED OUT OF PARLIAMENT. MAYBE HIS SEAT MUST BE GIVEN TO A RESERVED CATEGORY POLITICIAN
a very good example would be to kill arjun singh and claim responsible for it by the current young genration.. other ass holes should feel scared to even try playing caste politics
Can some one pls tell me what the fuck our PM is doing about the situation. I like the guy but enough is enough.
I read this in times of india - According to Arjun Singh, the government was also examining the possibility of excluding the affluent among the other backward classes from the new system of quotas, although he said he did not know the percentage population of the community.
Important point here is that the Mother Fucker does not know his facts and is pushing for something to be done. Further undermines the fool. I blam all of us for having these fools in high places and then having push them to do the right thing. Are we this messed up as a country?
Lastly going forward pls don’t ask why the smart people are leaving india. Go figure out this one for yourself.
We should all change our last names to match those listed by the governments as SC / ST or OTC.
Breaking News - Going forward all Indian will have the same last name except for Arjun Singh. He will continue to be known as Chute ka Dhakkan.
PS: I apologize for my language.
Anyone read Arjun Saab’s interview on Yahoo india. His answers prove tat he knows absolutely nothing about wat he is doing. he must b taking bribes from sum affluent OBC’s for this rubbish. As for Manmohan Singh I dunno. He baffles me. He is a nice man but surrounded by poisonous panthers. Same is the case with Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee (CM of West Bengal). These ppl. try their best to make the country progress but ppl. like Arjun Singh try their best to spoil things.
When I saw Rang de Basanti, although I enjoyed the movie, I thought the kind of politician is too fictious. I dont think like that anymore.
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I assume this so called OBC’s also wouldn’t like to stay inferior with this lower caste stamp which is gonne be worse with this !!
When will we come outside all this and build our India together !! Which has no racism, no caste and creed and all intelligent people– the actual ramarajya the way those enlightened masters wished !!
I guess we must kill all this polititians !!
Hope pakistan helps us by keeping a bomb in the parliment today itself. I pray the bomb is under Arjun Singh’s chair itself.
What amazes me the most is how a handful of politicians can take the entire country for a ride by increasing the quota of reservations? We certainly cannot allow this mockery of merit and justice!!!
Guys,
What has been the case / points posed by those who are pro quota?
******* ********. They are planning to SUNK india in long era. In 58 years if one Backward Class can not uplifted by them own self or by GOVT. rules by having these sort of Luxurieous QUOTA facilities with them. Then what the hell they can do by getting seats at IITs and IIMs. There should not be any QUOTAS.
I feel unjustified.
I do not have any fringed with any cast but have ANGER with this QUOTA for VOTEs. **** Arjun and the CONG govt.
I have voted with signature protest movement in Ahmedabad.
Jai Hind
The politicians will turn the country to dogs. Another Mandal is what we all need. Let us all support the cause …….. The pro quota walas should understand that there are lots of critical jobs where brains are required and not quotas……Lalu was once asked whether he would like to get treated by a SC/ST doctor at AIIMS to which he had sarcastically refused ……. These political idiots themselves want the best and should therefore keep the system clean…….. Perhaps these people should be treated with quota doctors and electricians and plumbers and engineers and mechanics and surgeons and masons and what not …….. Perhaps the need for good brains is what is needed. The politicians have no good brains and therefore need some one inferior to them to tame ……… To hell with the quota system …..
it is congress who is making defference between castes infact we sc/st is not asking for more reservation they r they only one who r playing dirty game. doctors r like god this posts should be given by merit basis.
if still they want to give reservation it should be given to poor one it can be general class or sc or st or obc.
pls congress dont make difference between us(sc/st)n general class
Worthless!!! Utterly worthless politicians. Does quota on the basis of caste make sense today or does it make sense to have a quote for the lower income groups. Come On Arjun! speak up …did u promise any of your “campaign money suppliers” put this shit in your head eh? You wanna appease them so your taking the might of the youth of this country eh? Just visit a bloody college next time and we the “youth” will show you what we think of a dirty scoundrel like you
we hv IIT,IIM which r the pride of india. and world salute their students. by making reservation quaotes they r breaking the backbone of education system. they killing many of bright and deserving citizens of india…i strongly ..stornly oppose this…what the hell they r going to do with this reservation quato…..rediculous…no words to critic !!!
we want to have a competition in the fast growing world & these politicians are trying to take country to uncivilised age. Education on the name of caste , i mean give me a break.We all have seen RANG DE BASANTI ,I personally don’t want to put ARJUN SINGH in the character of that currupt defence minister but what if he himself want to commit suicide
Arjunsingh is trying to divide our nation by caste for his political gain..but why our PM is supporting them?
No political parties is came forward to support anti reservation movement..? why?
why other students except medical student are silent?
MERIT SHOULD BE MUST IN EVERYWHERE.
IF AFTER RESERVATION IN EDUCATION..U CAN MAKE A RESERVED CANDIDATE EQUAL & LIFT HIM/HER UP..THEN WHY IT IS REQUIRED IN JOB ALSO…??
AFTER RESERVATION IN EDUCATION..NOW HE/SHE MUST BE FACE THE MERIT…
Check out the post titled “Hype of Meritocracy”
at
http://voiceforreservation.blogspot.com/
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i came to this site by typing arjun sing fuck in google search.
i am glad to see that i am not the only person to do that.In fact when i heard the news that parliment was attacked 1st thought came to my mind was atleast some dirty politician like arjunsing and other criminials would get eliminated.sadly it has not happend.its high time that we indians ourselves have to do some thing to eliminate these people.
i think he just wanted to make some controversy and embrass our PM.he always had an eye on PM’s Chair. now its high time a person like bhgatsing ,or chandra shekar asad come forward and kill this bastard.
Hi All,
I am a professional working with an MNC and owuld like to tell you that we guys are with you… I think its time for us to do something as these guys cannt do any good for this country.
Pls lemme know what can i do to promote our STAND though I have few ideas and would like to share with you.
Amit
If some one can get these msgs. to the papers n ask them to publish it. N hopefully wherever u are pls. pls. pls. show ur support for anti-reservations in any way possible. Even though the govt. has decided to got thru we must still protest. This is our country n itz our future tatz on stake n we can’t let these humbugs nd rascals do this to our education.
can’t we start a group web site in yahoogroups for the like minded perosns.unless we are unite,no body will listen. i would suject to start a yahoo group for the like minded people.where admission is only by invitation, who has to be introduced by a member of the group., who has to ensure that the new person is of same idiology.we are not agsint sc/st/. we are aginst division of this country based on cast. we will slowly buildup a presure groop.I am sure there are so many people eagrly waiting for such an oppertunity .
can’t we start a group web site in yahoogroups for the like minded perosns.unless we are unite,no body will listen. i would suject to start a yahoo group for the like minded people.where admission is only by invitation, who has to be introduced by a member of the group., who has to ensure that the new person is of same idiology.we are not agsint sc/st/. we are aginst division of this country based on cast. we will slowly buildup a presure groop.I am sure there are so many people eagrly waiting for such an oppertunity .
In india there should be one category of people to help, economically poor people”.
No caste, no religion based reservation.
The politicians are a big burden for our
nation.People have to think=”how to get rid of them” to save the nation from further anarchy.
It is not Arjun Singh alone, it also includes traitors who have conferred digrees on idiots like “DR. SANJAY DABHADE “. These people specialize in condemning Indian civillization into a war machine of oppression where there was no education, but they would say of an education policy. Education of inading aryans ? What education DR SANJAY ? Does an education involving invading or touring aryans pay such dividends ? We need educated people to talk on education, not Macaulyian bastards from JNU.
Guys, Arjun Singhs prosper because of DR SANJAY DABHADE. Most likely DR SANJAYA DABHADE would be paid by the govt for teaching ancient Indian knowledge of how ARYANS came to india from germany ( In rare case a quota ). These guys are paid by the congress party, and would create one more arjun singh for their salary, the salary they get is for teaching nothing useful. Wake up to Moles of Arjun Singhs. They are all around.
Arjun Fuck Singh deserves a kick on his fat rear end.wut the heck he wants ? All these politicians are shitkickers.They don’t understand peaceful protests and hunger strikes.BC sab sale lato ke bhoot hai.Arjun Singh kiss my ass.It is 100% reserved only for politicians!
-Bhaskar Tripathi
friends this is too no doubt true that ppl from low caste do need help, but i am sure reservation is NOT the way, i think best is to give them help from basic education and that should be made free, more schools can be opened for only SC/ST people with only SC/ST teacher(create jobs for them). but the point is that how we educated ppl can throw out these bastard polititians who take all of us for a ride.. is it time for a revolt of some sort to throw these old time suckers out of the nation and make a true nation with genuine policies and genuine people supporting govt.
reserve quata should not in india. all r eqall.
It was huminity that the reservation was given to backward class as to bring them in general social life. But now they are. They are enjoying all the benifits that not even General Category peoples enjoyes..means Promotion Crieteria,reservation in Gov. Jobs,they are also faciliated by Scholarships…Much many things.. And I am not opposing all these, because its our job to give equal rights to every one. But now they has. Then why Govrnment is raising their quota in higher educational institutes. They have been provided each and every thing , they are now able to pursuie the education by their own. Then why this?
Its Ok that Government help then by providing Scholarships , by affording their education Fees, Books,..all things..But this is Injustice to general category people to take their seats. If you will count total reserved seats, such as Reserved for SC,ST,OBC,Handicapped,Ex Servicemen,Sports Personals,…, then this would be more then 5 %. Means now is a situation that you need to provide reservation to General Category peoples as the ration of available benifits to the population is much more less than those of reserved categories.!!!!
I appreciate that government thinks good for the well fare of Peoples!! (For Only their Vote Bank!!!). Majority of generation in India is young peoples. They are struggling for job, even if they have Qualification they don’t get it. Why bcoz of reservation . Students Studies hard,just make their dreams true…but they are not able to get admission in their desired stream. Why ? Because of reservation. They gets admission even if they are not having enough qualification. My self has experienced this. I had Good Marks to get admission in Medical Line But I wasn’t Why Because Of Reservation. And my friend who comes under reservation category had secured only 65 % but he got admitted in Medical….How one feels at that movement. Then I Sook admission in Engineering in IT Branch. Now I have already completed. But my Class mates who had not even 45 % got admission in IT (One Of the most appreciated Stream of engineering)!!!!!!!!!. Whats all these nonsense is going on. Even they were getting benifits in Hostel-College Fees,Mess, nad ofcourse Scholarships….
I asks to the government specifically Manmohan Singh Our Honourable Prime Minister Who has the Best Qualifications in Country…Is it Fare? Don’t think of Vote Bank but think of Future of Indian Generation.. Will there be Engineers and Doctors who are not even qualified for their Business. And those who are still struggles? This is will not make the India Powerfull Country.!! Will it?.
Now its time to do some thing from our part. I appreciate those who are raising their Voice against Reservation Quota System. My friends ,..Its time to do some thing that not history has seen ever and nor Future will see ever. We are here to change India,we are here to change the world. Now its time to be paly a role in “Rang De Basanti”. I afraids that if this will continue there will be one from us Indians who will play a Role Of Bhagat Singh..
I am with you my friends. We need to change Either the Government Or the Government has to be change itself …..
Don;t stop fight for your rights…untill u get justice….
If polliticians want equality than there should no any reservation.they should fix same level entrance test.everybody should fight and the deserving candiate may get the seat.
I am an ordinary UC (as termed by socialists of this country) citizen of this country.
I and my children are being victimized for the alleged sins of my forefathers.
I am being told by poltical parties that my forefathers commited atrocities on public so I request the GOI to submit a detailed chargesheet aginst me with names of my forefatehers and list of crimes commited by my forefathers.
I want to clean ths slate by seeking most severe punishment for the crimes of my forefathers, but at the same time, I seek a promise from GOI that my children will be spared from any further punishment, descrimination and persecution.
I also hope that GOI will stop brandishing my children as UC which has a socialist meaning of criminals.
I appeal to other so called UC brethern to also come forward and clear their conscience and get rid of sins of their forefathers.
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This bastard Arjun Singh is pushing this reservation card for his own cause. First, he is number one rival for PM. Second, he want that cheap publicity. Have no love for the OBCs any way. He can not just stand a talk a few relevent lines even on this reservation issue. Look who we all have elected to lead us.
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I would like to request everyone in this forum to support the Anti Quota protests as the reservation policy is hurting all.
There is a website http://www.youth4equality.org created by the medicos.
Please register yourself and be a member of the organisation.
This will definately help. Its free membership.
Lets try to increase the membership to the extent that it makes the goverment to consider the demands.
Thanks
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Kids born to SC/ST mothers may get quota benefit
NEW DELHI: Even as the heat generated by the HRD ministry’s decision on quota extension shows no sign of abating, yet another ministry is finalising a blueprint that may have far-reaching consequences on quota politics.
The social justice and empowerment ministry wants to grant the status of scheduled castes and scheduled tribes to children who have a non-SC/ST father but a mother who belongs to SC/ST category. At present, the father’s caste determines the caste of the children since Indian society is largely patriarchal.
Confirming the move, a senior ministry official said, “A proposal to this effect will be placed before the Cabinet for approval shortly. It will allow the child of a non-SC/ST father and SC/ST mother to claim all quota benefits, specially allowances.
Though no survey has been undertaken yet to ascertain the number of such cases, demands for granting quota status for progeny of such parents have come in often. Hence, the decision.”
The decision will also be applicable to those children whose mothers belong to the ST or OBC category once the government gives the go-ahead. “The legislative department is working out the modalities,” the ministry official added.
Though the move is likely to ignite fresh controversy, the ministry is going ahead with the plan. This, despite the fact that the Supreme Court in a recent judgment clearly stated that no person who is not an SC/ST by birth will be deemed a member of SC/ST merely because he or she marries a person belonging to the SC/ST.
Asked how the ministry would get around this roadblock, additional secretary, ministry of social justice and empowerment, Sandip Khanna said, “It has been agreed in principle to prepare a road map to extend benefits to those children who are not SC by birth.
There are several factors involved in the issue and it is being examined threadbare before being sent to the cabinet for approval. The legal view is also being ascertained because of the Supreme Court decision. The ministry is trying to evolve a consensus on the issue.”
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I came across this blog by chance when I was searching about the reservation in google.You know , the audacity of politicians and the justification for the moronic and criminal acts of the fucking politicians by these fucking obc’s who know a little bit of computers just fucking amazes me.This is an open message to all these obc/sc/st pig faced shit eating bastards - who the fuck oppressed you? how were you opressed? who in your immediate family was opressed? Mothafuckers dont hide behind the totall baseless veil of opression - the opression endede eons ago!! bastards what were you doing for all this time?? eating shit?? the jews were opressed , did they ask for reservation? today they control 90% of the financial markets in the US . True talent and genius rises up in the face of adversity and poverty , but motherfukers your brains are not at all developed to handle that , you dont see that fact coz you fuking beggars are used to getting thgings handed out to them. Name one person from your class who made it big in any field after having reservations for 80 years.can you? I dont think so.You bastards come up every day begging for more and more but what did you do with the reservation we already gave you? stuffed it down your ass? If I see one more of you motherfuckers talking about how your family was opressed and shit , I will personally hunt you down and make your life so ..you will be wishing you had stayed opressed you bastards.That fuucking Ambedkar nigger got away - but Arjun sinmgh wont ..My troops wil first shove a red hot poker up his ass and then shove a pineapple to seal the deal.Just remember if you piss any of us more ..all of India will rape your mothers and sisters in your houses and make you buy condoms when they are plugging your sisters ass.Shut da fuck up you shit eating fucking beggars ..tumhare maa ke bhosde mein khatiya litake tumhari behne ko chodunga ..aur doctor dabhade teri toh ..madarchod apni bak bak bundh kar nahi tojh gaand mein aisi sui daloonga ke woh jo shingdaane jaisa lavda hai tera kabhi jindagi mein khada nahi rahega madarchod ki aulad ..
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to this theory, Dr Singh would do well to tackle the problem at its roots. After all, it is the Indian government that is responsible for the suicides. Related Links: Ila Patnaik’s call for reform (via Ajay Shah) and earlier posts by Gaurav Sabnis, Sandeep, Ashish Hanwadikar and Sonia Faliero
I had forbidden people to shed tears for the dead Vidarbha farmers because the root cause lay in the socialist Indian state; that the farmers’ deaths is a direct consequence of its harebrained policies of creating artificial scarcities forced farmers into the ruthless arms of moneylenders.
keep crying like stupid ass h*le, how many of you came out when others were on streets. battels are not won in one day and even not sitting at home and surfing the net. How many of you already donated money to them. Its easy to say but really hats of to those who are fighting on streets. you guys can only speak shit and cant do anything. just saying we support u is not enough come out and prove you exist. and then speak.
one that is reactive. Statements are read out by politicians behind bulletproof screens to television cameras. I do not see how we will win as we keep losing hard working citizens who were going home after they daily work or citizens who show up at temples to pray or at markets to shop. We seem to be cowering in fright. This is not the first time Mumbai has been targetted and this wont be the last. Nay, there will be yet more attacks in more cities across the country and we will get to hear more “statements on
it is the rich or the poor. How else would you explain all those suicides in Vidarbha? It is sad to see so many bloggers make highly distasteful claims that the loan waivers to farmers is wrong because it means higher taxes on ‘taxpayers’. (Take this one for example) They also talk about how the farmers are suffering because of fixed rates offered by the govt. for agricultural produce. Have they ever realised that this is only to keep inflation down, for the benefit of the ‘tax-paying’ middle class? So
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Iam making a plan to kill the mother fucker Arjun Singh. This fuckers made a constitution that stinks. Child fucker like Nehru and Gandi ruined the country. its stinks.they kicked the brits out stating that they divide and rule. But these mother fuckers wear khadi and loot the taxpayers.
assholes of the first order…..
The Supreme Court in India and judges in India are fucking corrrupt. They cannot solve the problems of reservation. These BLACK MUSKETTEERS have been a useless lot.
Eating taxpayers money and not solving cases. They know to go against the activists, however they do not have a verdict in hand.
Supreme court judges should be lined up and shot dead. They know to pass the verdict against some small time criminal but not a single politician has been covicted till date.
Bastards are worried about promotion.
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i oppose the supremecourt stay on the obc reservations there is only the way to ensure social justice in india that is reservations the supreme court judges belongs to uppercast that is the reason they passed stay orders for obc reservations
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