Link fowarded to me via email, read Karan Thapar nailing Arjun Singh.
Karan Thapar: Do you personally also, as Minister of Human Resource Development , believe that reservations is the right and proper way to help the OBCs?
Arjun Singh: Certainly, that is one of the most important ways to do it.
Karan Thapar: The right way?
Arjun Singh: Also the right way.
Karan Thapar: In which case, lets ask a few basic questions; we are talking about the reservations for the OBCs in particular. Do you know what percentage of the Indian population is OBC? Mandal puts it at 52 per cent, the National Sample Survey Organisation at 32 per cent, the National Family and Health Survey at 29.8 per cent, which is the correct figure?
Arjun Singh: I think that should be decided by people who are more knowledgeable. But the point is that the OBCs form a fairly sizeable percentage of our population.
Karan Thapar: No doubt, but the reason why it is important to know ‘what percentage’ they form is that if you are going to have reservations for them, then you must know what percentage of the population they are, otherwise you don’t know whether they are already adequately catered in higher educational institutions or not.
Arjun Singh: That is obvious - they are not.
Karan Thapar: Why is it obvious?
Arjun Singh: Obvious because it is something which we all see.
Karan Thapar: Except for the fact that the NSSO, which is a government appointed body, has actually in its research in 1999 - which is the most latest research shown - that 23.5 per cent of all university seats are already with the OBCs. And that is just 8.5 per cent less than what the NSSO believes is the OBC share of the population. So, for a difference of 8 per cent, would reservations be the right way of making up the difference?
Arjun Singh: I wouldn’t like to go behind all this because, as I said, Parliament has taken a view and it has taken a decision, I am a servant of Parliament and I will only implement.
Karan Thapar: Absolutely, Parliament has taken a view, I grant it. But what people question is the simple fact - Is there a need for reservations? If you don’t know what percentage of the country is OBC, and if furthermore, the NSSO is correct in pointing out that already 23.5 per cent of the college seats are with the OBC, then you don’t have a case in terms of need.
Arjun Singh: College seats, I don’t know.
Karan Thapar: According to the NSSO - which is a government appointed body - 23.5 per cent of the college seats are already with the OBCs.
Arjun Singh: What do you mean by college seats?
Karan Thapar: University seats, seats of higher education.
Arjun Singh: Well, I don’t know I have not come across that far.
Karan Thapar: So, when critics say to you that you don’t have a case for reservation in terms of need, what do you say to them?
Arjun Singh: I have said what I had to say and the point is that that is not an issue for us to now debate.
Karan Thapar: You mean the chapter is now closed?
Arjun Singh: The decision has been taken.
Karan Thapar: Regardless of whether there is a need or not, the decision is taken and it is a closed chapter.
Arjun Singh: So far as I can see, it is a closed chapter and that is why I have to implement what all Parliament has said.
Karan Thapar: Minister, it is not just in terms of ‘need’ that your critics question the decision to have reservation for OBCs in higher education. More importantly, they question whether reservations themselves are efficacious and can work.
For example, a study done by the IITs themselves shows that 50 per cent of the IIT seats for the SCs and STs remain vacant and for the remaining 50 per cent, 25 per cent are the candidates, who even after six years fail to get their degrees. So, clearly, in their case, reservations are not working.
Arjun Singh: I would only say that on this issue, it would not be correct to go by all these figures that have been paraded.
Karan Thapar: You mean the IIT figures themselves could be dubious?
Arjun Singh: Not dubious, but I think that is not the last word.
Karan Thapar: All right, maybe the IIT may not be the last word, let me then quote to you the report of the Parliamentary Committee on the welfare for the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes - that is a Parliamentary body.
It says that looking at the Delhi University, between 1995 and 2000, just half the seats for under-graduates at the Scheduled Castes level and just one-third of the seats for under-graduates at the Scheduled Tribes level were filled. All the others went empty, unfilled. So, again, even in Delhi University, reservations are not working.
Arjun Singh: If they are not working, it does not mean that for that reason we don’t need them. There must be some other reason why they are not working and that can be certainly probed and examined. But to say that for this reason, ‘no reservations need to be done’ is not correct.
Karan Thapar: Fifty years after the reservations were made, statistics show, according to The Hindustan Times, that overall in India, only 16 per cent of the places in higher education are occupied by SCs and STs. The quota is 22.5 per cent, which means that only two-thirds of the quota is occupied. One third is going waste, it is being denied to other people.
Arjun Singh: As I said, the kind of figures that have been brought out, in my perception, do not reflect the realities. Realities are something much more and of course, there is an element of prejudice also.
Karan Thapar: But these are figures that come from a Parliamentary Committee. It can’t be prejudiced; they are your own colleagues.
Arjun Singh: Parliamentary Committee has given the figures, but as to why this has not happened, that is a different matter.
Karan Thapar: I put it to you that you don’t have a case for reservations in terms of need, you don’t have a case for reservations in terms of their efficacy, why then, are you insisting on extending them to the OBCs?
Arjun Singh: I don’t want to use that word, but I think that your argument is basically fallicious.
Karan Thapar: But it is based on all the facts available in the public domain.
Arjun Singh: Those are facts that need to be gone into with more care. What lies behind those facts, why this has not happened, that is also a fact.
Karan Thapar: Let’s approach the issue of reservations differently in that case. Reservations mean that a lesser-qualified candidate gets preference over a more qualified candidate, solely because in this case, he or she happens to be an OBC. In other words, the upper castes are being penalised for being upper caste.
Arjun Singh: Nobody is being penalised and that is a factor that we are trying to address. I think that the prime Minister will be talking to all the political parties and will be putting forward a formula, which will see that nobody is being penalised.
Karan Thapar: I want very much to talk about that formula, but before we come to talk about how you are going to address concerns, let me point one other corollary - Reservations also gives preference and favour to caste over merit. Is that acceptable in a modern society?
Arjun Singh: I don’t think the perceptions of modern society fit India entirely.
Karan Thapar: You mean India is not a modern society and therefore can’t claim to be treated as one?
Arjun Singh: It is emerging as a modern society, but the parameters of a modern society do not apply to large sections of the people in this country.
Now take a moment to congratulate Karan Thapar for skillfully exposing Arjun Singh for the clueless dolt he is.
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Sandeep, he most certainly did, like I wrote yesterday!
Posted on May 23, 2006 at 12:02 PM.
Arjun Singh used all kinds of usual nonsense techniques to escape the Qs. And he didnt give a proper answer to any of the Qs. Karan Thapar has been extremely patient and creaft in maneuvering the interview, though.
Posted on May 23, 2006 at 9:09 PM.
Sandeep,
The most important question the Indian Government has to answer is being asked by Karan Thapar. ie
“Let’s approach the issue of reservations differently in that case. Reservations mean that a lesser-qualified candidate gets preference over a more qualified candidate, solely because in this case, he or she happens to be an OBC. In other words, the upper castes are being penalised for being upper caste.”
The ultimate motive for introducing the reservation policies is to develop the nation by reducing the inequalities among the people. These reservation is turning out to be a lagging factor (instead of developing the nation) for the development of nation. If it is so, is it really required?
My point is pretty clear. There’s nothing wrong in giving reservations but not on the basis of caste. It should be on the basis of the financial status of the individual. Caste is not the apt dividing line between the rich and poor. I wish Indian government will soon realise this and try to figure out proper solution ( as arjun sing said: a formula, that cud solve this problem) in the near feature.
Posted on May 26, 2006 at 12:13 PM.
Arjun Fuck Singh deserves a kick on his fat rear end.wut the heck he wants ? All these politicians are shitkickers.They don’t understand peaceful protests and hunger strikes.BC sab sale lato ke bhoot hai.Arjun Singh kiss my ass.It is 100% reserved only for politicians!
-Bhaskar Tripathi
Posted on May 26, 2006 at 7:45 PM.
If I say Karan did a service to Nation and slapped the so-called educated [as they were supposed to have come out of such simple & straight facts from the reports and statistics which have been in the public domain], its just an understatement. One should compliment CNBC TV18 Channel for their service to bring out the facts and to demonstrate that it is good business to disseminate facts and expose the danger the country is in the hands of the people who have no strategy, no data, no ability to lead rather than meekly go with what they think the sections of people endorse and hence vote. Just look at the answers a senior most minister gives. “It is obvious”. MEANING, NO NEED TO STEP BACK AND EVALUATE AND GO FORWARD.
lET US Look at it differently. For all the data on percentage of OBCs in colleges and universities who are already there, the HRD Minister expresses his ignorance. WHAT PREVENTS the government to send a circular to ALL COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES to send info on total number of seats- branch wise, class wise, etc..- and the number of boys and girls in open general merit - caste wise [how demeaning after 50 years of Independence], rural/ urban wise, gender wise. Basing on the data, let the Nation take the view.
The Minister referred to Parliament. Is Parliament against data based decision making?
The HRD Minister speaks that figures and realities are different. Can this statement pass in a civilized knowledge society? Now, let us see the accountability dimension of realities. For how many years in the 50+ years of Independent India, the Minister has been associated with the process of governance? He was HRD Minister earlier for 5 years. NOW, for the realities of educational backwardness, who should hold accountable?
Shall we continue to listen vague statements like “centuries of suppression†and ignore what is happening before our eyes for 50+ years? Take the statistics of economic wealth, social positions and political power – who are the persons wielding the power and who are they? Sine how long they & their tribe are in power and what is their contribution to uplift the people who are really backward? Is there a vested interest in keeping people backward & suppressed so that they continue to rule showing the card of “centuries of suppression� How come the recommendations of so many education commissions starting from pre-independence to post Independence Radha Krishnan, Kothari,… Commissions [let us not degenerate to check what caste they belong to] which emphasized on good primary education, schools with efficient teachers as antidotes for backwardness and vehicles to drive the Nation towards its best were kept to the reports rather than brought into the action plane the way Rajiv Gandhi –singularly- tried through persons like Sam Pitroda in a missionary zeal?
A boy of 25 years today was born in Free India. If persons like the Minister really put in needed policy initiatives with performance orientation ever since they are in positions of power & young too, the young boys and girls of today would have been able to say, as some of them are already saying, “Please mind your business; do not attempt to divide us on the basis of concepts which are irrelevantâ€.
It is time the full text of Karan’s interaction, though a shameful reflection of India’s knowledge power, should go to every Indian; they are capable of seeing through it things are put to them in an uncontaminated manner- the way Karan did it.
Somebody wrote that middle class what they deserve. It looks like true. If a HRD Minister could give responses on a channel seen and listened to with respect all over the world by discernable people, where is this Nation leading itself to?
It looks like a ploy. The whole world knows the demographic reality of India in the next decade and thereafter for decades. India will be with youth power which is knowledgeable. Youth will not tolerate, what Mr Rahul Gandhi said with anguish in an interview recently in UP, concepts that are irrelevant and divide the people. Is there an attempt by the disgruntled aging politicians to divide the Indian Youth so that they and their tribe continue to hold sway over the destiny of youthful India?
Posted on May 26, 2006 at 8:50 PM.
Crazy…… He does not have a sigle answer. The fool does not know how many OBC are there and talking about number of reservation. Even manmohan who seemed an economist and progressive initially has come out a big Fool. Its a criminal act to the upper cast people.
Whole caste based reservation should be demolished.. they should support undeveloped areas by giving free ducation and incentives for gettig educated, rather than punishing merit class people. Grow up… arjun singh… do atleast one good thing before dieing.
Posted on May 27, 2006 at 8:43 AM.
Arjun Singh is really idiot and the whole congress ministry is like circus where these idiots are placed to spoil the whole country in long term. Karan Thapar has really stripped out that.
These politician for their vote bank can go to any extreme. These kind of people should be abolished from the system.
Posted on May 27, 2006 at 4:03 PM.
If KAran is right then is upper cast is around 50%?
Posted on May 27, 2006 at 6:14 PM.
Arjun Singh is a piece of dog shit and is clueless what he is doing ,this is going to jeopardise the golden goose of India and in the near future will result in massive brain drain
something has to be done or else India will pay a heavy price for this
Karan has done what he could however situation still remains the same,god knows where India is going
Posted on May 27, 2006 at 8:05 PM.
Arjun Singh you are shit
Fuck u pig
Posted on May 27, 2006 at 8:11 PM.
all I can say is Arjun Singh is disgusting and a perfect example of creep
Posted on May 27, 2006 at 8:14 PM.
Hey everyone hats off to Karan, for making Arjun Singh strip.This all time big fool of Congress circus has shown again what it takes to be foolish and yes arjun do one good thing to save ur ass
Posted on May 27, 2006 at 8:19 PM.
Wee arjun singh doesn’t know what he’s talking about.maybe one of hi distant relations is obc(ofcourse arjun singh is upper caste) and has been unable to qualify from 10 years or so and that nexy year is his last chance to do so.
Posted on May 27, 2006 at 9:17 PM.
I think its time Karan rips him apart again before he embarks on his stupid saudi arabia journey (while the country is on fire!!!)..
One thing I fail to understand…why dont journos talk to sonia gandhi directly? Its her who is the root..others are just her servants inthe literal sense.
Posted on May 29, 2006 at 3:36 PM.
Its puzzling how one ignorant man and an asshole can make such big decisions about future of hardwoking and deserving students in India.
The ONLY thing that has brought India out of “developing country” status and the ONLY thing that we have been so very proud of has been the intellectual capital. And assholes like Arjun Singh are bent upon destroying something we and the world truely admire.
I can only imagine what would be the status of IIT’s (I am an IITain mylself) if this disastrous rule is implemented.
These same people who are bent upon implementing this “reservation” policy have blissfully ignored thousands of rapists, murderers and shamefully disastrous law system in India. They have chosen to do NOTHING about the disastrous red tapism of which they themselves are guilty of practicing, they have chosen to ignore the shamelfully currupt police system and many other issues that are so critical to India that they derserve utmost attention. Rather, assholes like Arjun Singh have decided to destroy ONE thing that REALLY works well and we are proud of in India–The education system.
SHAME TO OUR POLITICIANS !!!
Posted on May 30, 2006 at 3:38 AM.
Fuck…Arjun….and All those arse holes supporting it…leave India in our hands and v will take care…U go and retire and fuck ur nannys arse….FO
Posted on May 30, 2006 at 4:54 PM.
I think it makes even more sense if Karan interview Sonia Gandhi because if she gets convinced she can do anything rather than people like Arjun singh (so called HRD Minister)
I hope somebody like Sonia Gandhi also express her opinion publicly and journalist chase her for an interview like any other politician , after all she is the one who runs our country and she MUST be answerable.
Posted on May 30, 2006 at 8:49 PM.
This interview only shows again what we already know. Arjun singh got licked big time, but it does not change anything.
Well, I can see, that he did not even come prepared for the interview, that, i believe is the problem. He knew this
performance of his does not affect any substantial votebank. These politicians want to keep the populace ’sub-standard’
because anyone who is educated and understands what happened on this show, irrespective of the caste he belongs to, will
never vote for what Arjun Singh stands for.
Reservations are a way to keep the backward castes where they are, backward.Because GOD FORBID! if they really become
empowered they would not like being exploited in this manner.
And lastly,a huge % of the populace from every caste and tribe is languishing in poverty.I don’t think any of the so-called
upper castes are doing that great, if we look at it from a strictly statistical basis.
So that brings us to the question,’ how does it all end?’I had seen a news report some years back that showed farmers from
Haryana refusing the free Power that the politicians were promising them.Experience had taught them that it is better to pay
for power and get it rather that accept free power and never get it.I am sure there will come a time when people will say no to reserved seats even if it is for them, because this simply doesn’t work.
Posted on May 31, 2006 at 2:28 AM.
Recently I saw a spoof on reservations by one of the news channels in which they asked an UPA parliamentary member, whether he would consider introducing a bill for reservations in sports. I don’t remember the channel and being in a hurry didn’t really catch the bewildered minister’s exact reply, but he did say something in the context of sportspersons being selected on their merit alone. (Duh! Doctors don’t require merits?) Initially, I found the question humorous, but after thinking about it I thought, if somebody had told me even a 3-4 months back that doctors should be selected on their religious or social background I would have laughed at the whole thing as a joke and yet the UPA HRD minister has actually made this a reality proposal on the verge of being accepted. I am sure the Congress/UPA think-tank must think Arjun Singh’s proposal to be a stroke of genius. We may think it to be passé and mindless politics but arjun singh has come up with an answer to what the UPA govt. is going to take to the people in the next elections. He is doing what congress has done to rule India for ages, play with people’s mindset. UPA has nothing but internal brawls with left to show the people in their accomplishments list. Arjun Singh has poked a stick in the honey comb and come up with a buzzing controversy which is sure to get the rural and backward people, no doubt with help from local UPA politicians, feel UPA is actually doing something for them, irrespective if the proposal is passed or not. Even when the bill is passed, does Arjun
Singh think the people from the far-off rural areas will come to cities and avail their
“reserved seats”? Why don’t the UPA think about building new institutions in the rural areas rather than blabbering about the inequalities. The controvery is enough publicity for UPA. The Congress is taking us back to the dark ages. But we don’t really care do we? We are more concerned about fanaa being released in Gujrat. Today, we eat what media feeds us, we seem to have lost mind of our own. Honestly tell me how many of you go to vote? Illiterate areas are better than our cities, they have a better percentage turnout of voters. For most of us elections are like holidays. Raise your voices. Show these idiots who take us for granted.
Posted on May 31, 2006 at 12:37 PM.
I’m not going to vote for a minister who is so ignorant about the ground reality, does not even bother to check the facts. A minister is expected to be a representative of people and answerable to people who elected him, but I think Mr. Arjun Singh is out to satisfy his ego and is not bothered, how critically this decision is going to impact the country. One simple advice to Mr. Arjun Singh - If he is not aware of any ground realities and facts, it’s better to shut his mouth. He should seek clarity himself before implementing any decision. For what pupose is he appointed our education minister otherwise?
Posted on May 31, 2006 at 1:05 PM.
all in one , we can say that time has come to expose the truth of politics for vote. we all must support the students who r fighting for equality & see that there sacrifices dosen’t waste.
Posted on May 31, 2006 at 9:23 PM.
Something like life says:
I haven’t participated in any debate on reservation. Initially this was because at that time I had yet to formulate a coherent viewpoint against reservation and possible alternatives (in fact even now I am not sure). But debates hardly matter, Karan Thapar might have rubbed Arjun Singh’s nose in manurebut it is the old stinking reptile who is going to have last laugh. His was a political decision intended solely for vote bank politics. As far as he was concerned no political party will dare oppose this and that’s what mattered to him.
Posted on June 1, 2006 at 2:31 PM.
It’s shocking that one of the world’s largest democracies is being run by people, who play with the lives of millions of people, just for the sake of getting their vote banks.Its time we, the people of India should stand up behind this cause and be counted. Otherwise, our next generations will blame us for not opposing this inhuman and biased behaviour of some petty minded politicians.
Come on guys and gurls, support this cause and support the students . express your opinions rather than keeping mum.
Posted on June 5, 2006 at 5:04 PM.
Hats off to Karan…sure Fucker Arjun singh would have pissed in his pants…and what Parliment he is refering to..it is Sonia’s ass..
Posted on June 13, 2006 at 4:06 PM.
Its congress that is doing all the shit, lets vote them out this elections n teach them a big lesson, for what they have done to delhi n india..we have put trust on this politicans..and put them on the seat, and what they have done is fucked this country right and left
Posted on June 23, 2006 at 1:40 AM.
Karan thaapr, the Devil’s Advocate » Niponwave says:
[...] The Devil’s Advocate on CNN-IBN is one programme that I cannot afford to miss. A programme of just 30 minutes — punctuated by a single break – with so much punch in it. Karan Thapar, the anchor, is perhaps India’s best known television commentator and interviewer. Thapar, known for his aggressive interviews, is dreaded by politicians and celebrities alike. Perhaps his most recent and famous interview has been with the Congress Minister for Human Resources Development Mr. Arjun Singh over the issue of increasing caste-based reservation quotas in all universities and institutions of higher education for the members of the so-called Other Backward Classes (OBCs), at the expense of compromising merit. His critics have humorously claimed that Arjun Singh was eaten alive or ripped apart by Thapar, wherein at least seven questions were answered by Mr. Singh as “I don’t know” and many others by “I am a servant of the Parliament”. The entire interview on IBN can be read here. [...]
Posted on June 28, 2006 at 8:22 PM.
Karan Thapar, the Devil’s Advocate » Niponwave says:
[...] The Devil’s Advocate on CNN-IBN is one programme that I cannot afford to miss. A programme of just 30 minutes — punctuated by a single break – with so much punch in it. Karan Thapar, the anchor, is perhaps India’s best known television commentator and interviewer. Thapar, known for his aggressive interviews, is dreaded by politicians and celebrities alike. Perhaps his most recent and famous interview has been with the Congress Minister for Human Resources Development Mr. Arjun Singh over the issue of increasing caste-based reservation quotas in all universities and institutions of higher education for the members of the so-called Other Backward Classes (OBCs), at the expense of compromising merit. His critics have humorously claimed that Arjun Singh was eaten alive or ripped apart by Thapar, wherein at least seven questions were answered by Mr. Singh as “I don’t know” and many others by “I am a servant of the Parliament”. The entire interview on IBN can be read here. [...]
Posted on June 28, 2006 at 8:23 PM.
According to a recent statement issued it seems now he wants muslims to be given quotas in colleges. The timing of this statement is somewhat exemplery, it comes right after the mumbai blasts. If I would ask God for one thing, it would be to put that asshole, son of a bitch in the same coach that blew up, instead of those poor innocent people.
Posted on July 13, 2006 at 3:03 AM.
Arjun Singh ka Rang De Basanti kar dena chahiye …. balki poori congress party ka kar do to aur bhi badhiya hai …. congressmen are traitors
Posted on January 29, 2007 at 5:18 AM.
Govt approves OBC Quota: AIIMS’ doctors on Strike - India Daily says:
[...] • A study conducted by the IITs reveals that 50 per cent of the IIT seats for the SCs and STs remain vacant and rest of the 50 per cent, 25 per cent fail to get their degree even after six years. [...]
Posted on February 17, 2007 at 1:09 PM.
arjun singh gaandu ki aulaad ,harami ka pilla,behenchod
Posted on March 30, 2007 at 2:15 PM.
It is really pathetic that a senior minister has taken a decision without having any backup data. I cant understand how this country is breaking all the records in growth but its most of the population is backward or in que to be identified as backward classes.All these aged ministers who cannot even walk shoul be dropped from the cabinet and should be given forced retirement so that whatever good is left should not be ruined.
Posted on August 4, 2007 at 4:59 PM.
dear sirs,
That Arjun singh was playing a vote bank politics may be true but that is how most of our developmental policies are
implemented.I personally think Karan Thappar is a
sophisticated rascal whose only job is to sensationalise
through his probing assaults of insensitive questioning.
Where did he get the statistics concerning 32 percent of
OBC only exist in India.How can we be sure that this
fool is not lying for the non OBC supporters.Why hasnt
he questioned the reservation premise for the christians
and muslims which is unconstitutional.I have been going
through the website of ministry for statistics to find the representation of OBCs in India.But if the total
calculation comes out to be 8 percent but the OBCs
have to be assured that these datas are not rigged
or manipulated.And that there were no upper class
citizens camouflaged as OBCs to highjack reservation.
Caste is bad but the person who does not want
educational reservation on caste basis will he be ready
to marry or eat food from a lower class family.Or
attend their social functions?Chances very low.It is
only to deprive the OBCs from reservation that they want the caste to be thrown away but in all other social
interaction and activities they will assert their
caste and behave accordingly.Dont bray like a donkey.
I awas ameritorious student for medicine and engineering
inspite of having an option to exercise my caste card
which could have helped me study without much stress.
But that hard work that I put to get a merit seat
put me at a disadvantage.Because if a backward class
competes and gets a merit seat he is still recieved as
a backward only and as a member of the reservation camp
and discriminated.And this discrimination can be seen
in campus politics,cricket team selection etc.
But the creamy layer OBCs too are a nuisance who create
troubles for the disadvantaged but meritorious OBC.
First the caste system or the cooperation by
different castes must improve and since all of them
are trying to assert themselves upon other this
caste based selection in education or politics or
employement wont go away.That bloody badwa thappar
has recieved kick backs from the Indian medical association and the IITians and multinational pharmceuticals and the upper class to derail the
reservation meant for OBCs.Dont the upper caste still believe that they are a superior lot and the OBCs
an inferior lot?If an OBC educates himself does he
transform or metamorphosise into an upper class?If
yes then he can be denied reservation.If not you
people become an OBC and take the reservation.And that
is being done through fake certificates.And you people
have missed the fact in the socio,political and
cultural divide betwee the upper class and lower class
Hindus the christians and muslims have improved their
position very well and they are still crying for more.
So it shows that the divide between the hindus are
very deep and you cannot simply wish it go away
unless the true conflict under this caste discrimination
is assessed.Any way there are some foul players on
side of the camp.The quanta of influence they are
having is not known.You people including that thappar
must think statistically and be more sensitive.The
condition of the OBC may have improved but so has
that of the Upper castes.How will you quantify it?
There isnt a proper statistics in place to define
the economic and backwardness of the people in india.
You may have a sample population around your neighbourhood from which you arrive at a conclusion and so do I.How do you go about searching for the upper and
the lower castes amongst one billion along with their
details regarding money both hidden and revealed.A karan
thappar bashes a poorly articulate Arjun singh infront
of one billion people and the foolish viewers take this
to be true because TV is such a powerful medium as it
influences an opinion very quickly over a wide space
instantly.And that opinion may be far from the truth
of Indian requirements That is why I call KARAN THAPPAR
IS A BADWA OF THE UPPER CLASS.NO HARD FEELINGS PLEASE.
CAUSE I WAS CHEATED BY THE CREAMY LAYER IN THE MINORITY
AND THE OBC CAMP AND THE UPPER CASTE CAMP.SAALE SUDHAR
JAAA.Christians and muslims do not have the caste factor
or the regional differences to destroy their chance of reaching the top and they have a global presence also.
Sirf Hindu janatha hi GOTI latkakar chal raha hai!
sare jahaan se achcha sachchar commission tumhara.
Posted on March 17, 2008 at 5:29 PM.
thnx to thapar for teaching arjun singh,the devil hungry for votes. I think there should be a reservation only in the parliaments and in turns for f****** arjun singh’s daughter.
I am from IIT n i must say that due to these ‘backward class’ who r by all means richer than most of general category lower the class iq by tons!! most of them are not able to pass even after failing twice or thrice…
surely arjun singh must be having an affair with an obc girl:)
sorry for offensive words(if any)…but in my opinion arjun singh deserves a lot more..
Posted on April 14, 2008 at 7:41 PM.
Arjun singh ki koi galti nahi hai
galti to uski maa ki hai jisne use paida kiya….
aur agar uski maa mujhe mil gayi to…….
to bhi main unhe namaste hi bolungaaa…..
samjhe????
Posted on April 15, 2008 at 6:36 AM.
…..going through this forum is perhaps the most depressing thing i have ever done in years……yes,we know Arjun Singh (like any other politician) is concerned only with there ‘vote banks’…… politics is plagued by these rats….but WHAT CAN WE DO?…how influencial can we be?…. enough with the reviews on interview.,,we have analysed the problem.,.well.,, …lets find a solution ,..what we do when we curse this guy ,is being like him?….being an INDIAN….what should we do?….
cheer me up….
Posted on April 16, 2008 at 6:01 PM.
I must say karan got it right. In principle i dont have problem with reservation.But it is the creamy layer that gets reservations. Its forming new ‘upper caste’ withing reservation. If they can implement the creamy layer then the real intention of reservations will succeed.
Posted on May 6, 2008 at 2:04 PM.
This bastard Arjun Singh will one day require surgery to save his despicable life and he will get admitted to a hospital and will be operated upon by a SC/ST/OBC surgeon taught by a SC/ST/OBC lecturer.
That’ll be the death sentence for him.
Posted on October 6, 2008 at 8:48 PM.
this is the true picture of the so called care takers of the nation ,resrve a seat for him in an assylum ….its horriblr to find that a minister holding such a important position could not answer karan …..good job karan
Posted on March 12, 2009 at 12:51 PM.
this reveals wat polliticians-who claim 2 be called ‘great’do .it horrible 2 know a very important minister had his mouth shut as he could not answer karanji questions.
“U R GREAT KARANJI”
Posted on March 22, 2009 at 1:48 PM.
I accept the statements gave by my friends. Arjun has done nothing except hiding the mistakes he and his politic rascals did.
Do the lower castes people really need any reservation?
and the answer is “NO”.. Why?? What have they done to the country??
This reservation means that qualification is based not on merit but strictly on caste. This stupid thing is a hinder to our Indian growth. How did countries like US, Japan, and even UK grow at a faster pace though they all received a big impact/crash over their stock market after the WWII as v did?? The reason is everything is done there by efforts which are purely based on merits and not on castes..
And I should also say that the reason for communal riots and casteism in India is mainly due to this F**king reservation system and nothing else gets the priority..
On the other hand i would say that “Reservation based on Poverty Line” should be given in order to help a talented poor person, who may not even be in the position even to pay his fees,to become educated. Thus I would say that India will become a developed country only when the “Reservation based on Castes” is removed.
ABOLISH RESERVATION BASED ON CASTES AND MAKE INDIA A DEVELOPED COUNTRY.
Posted on June 19, 2009 at 1:52 PM.
It is sad that Indians do not push their government for more universities so that there need not even be affirmative action. It seems that affirmative action is an excuse for the government not be help people gain better aceess to education and a cover up for not building more universities. It just lowers standards for everyone.
Posted on June 20, 2009 at 8:03 PM.
Karan Thapar is very annoying but in this case he is right. However I recall the same man interviewed Arun Shourie once and spoke in favor of affirvative action because Shourie follwed a brand of politics he did not like. Double standards? He should stick to one poslition. I find Karan Thapar really annoying and not very intelligent.
Posted on June 20, 2009 at 8:06 PM.
Moreover why does not he grill the candidates on their plans for India? Apparently the government has zero plans to build new Universities. Smarty Pants Thapar should ask real questions if he really thinks he is “Devil’s advocate”
Posted on June 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM.