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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/05/21/the-fascism-debate-continues-here/comment-page-3/#comment-181776</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 15:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea, write this in our language, Sanskrit, and may be it will sound less hollow.
and while you are at it, change our constitution to sound more like &quot;ours&quot; and less like an imported/smuggled one from Britain and you would score.

dude,when u pick the entire language, you also pick up spoken terms and general lingo.
no wonder M in CPI(M) stands for Marxist and not Mukherjee; however hard we wish that we could have made an indigenous political ideology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea, write this in our language, Sanskrit, and may be it will sound less hollow.<br />
and while you are at it, change our constitution to sound more like &#8220;ours&#8221; and less like an imported/smuggled one from Britain and you would score.</p>
<p>dude,when u pick the entire language, you also pick up spoken terms and general lingo.<br />
no wonder M in CPI(M) stands for Marxist and not Mukherjee; however hard we wish that we could have made an indigenous political ideology.</p>
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		<title>By: badindianmofo</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/05/21/the-fascism-debate-continues-here/comment-page-3/#comment-181732</link>
		<dc:creator>badindianmofo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 17:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>socal, anyone who does not agree with you &#039;right wingers&#039; is a &#039;liberal&#039;? Exactly what I talked about. Get a grip, stop talking right/left. Our right/left are not the same, which is why it is absurd, not because I&#039;m a leftist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>socal, anyone who does not agree with you &#8216;right wingers&#8217; is a &#8216;liberal&#8217;? Exactly what I talked about. Get a grip, stop talking right/left. Our right/left are not the same, which is why it is absurd, not because I&#8217;m a leftist.</p>
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		<title>By: socal</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/05/21/the-fascism-debate-continues-here/comment-page-3/#comment-181683</link>
		<dc:creator>socal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 14:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;the entire liberal/left discourse if imported from the west and sunny boy gets angry by use of one term, albeit in quotes

Haha! They even import the western liberals every now and then to patch up the discourse. Btw, looking at sunny boy&#039;s frustration seems a rather ignoble case of leftist cul-de-sac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;the entire liberal/left discourse if imported from the west and sunny boy gets angry by use of one term, albeit in quotes</p>
<p>Haha! They even import the western liberals every now and then to patch up the discourse. Btw, looking at sunny boy&#8217;s frustration seems a rather ignoble case of leftist cul-de-sac.</p>
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		<title>By: shadows</title>
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		<dc:creator>shadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 13:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ritwik, 

&gt;&gt;&gt; â€˜Paintings of nudes of figures revered by millions should be bannedâ€™ - should a nude painting of Pancho Pir maharaj, my Kul-devta be banned? He is not revered by millions 

Yes. And Sachin Tendulkar is not God :)

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; You recommend that offensiveness be determined collectively by society. I hope you realise that this is the path to majoritarian tyranny.

Then whats the other option.. Minority tyranny ??!

&gt;&gt;&gt; 
Just think that Iâ€™m one of those who already holds that view today and will hopefully work towards creating that average view and try to ensure that it becomes the norm 50 years from now instead of 100. 


Good. Its all right. 


&gt;&gt;&gt;  I agree that the current Indian media (and even laws to some extent) are in fact hypocritical against the majority - the way to right that is to correct those laws and expose this hypocrisy every time it happens, not to match this hypocrisy with flawed FoS or Obscenity laws. 


Well, then, how do you fight this hypocrisy and discrimination. Atleast for me, I cannot tolerate such potshots at us in the name of art. In an equal, non-discriminatory and just society, I would not even care for such art. But now I do. Unless the discrimination and hypocrisy stops, it is not even possible in 100 years, try as you much to achieve the morality standard that you want in 50 years. 

&gt;&gt;&gt; technically the caricaturist can be jailed and his work will be banned.

How has RK Laxman managed to survive so long :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ritwik, </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; â€˜Paintings of nudes of figures revered by millions should be bannedâ€™ &#8211; should a nude painting of Pancho Pir maharaj, my Kul-devta be banned? He is not revered by millions </p>
<p>Yes. And Sachin Tendulkar is not God <img src='http://www.sandeepweb.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; You recommend that offensiveness be determined collectively by society. I hope you realise that this is the path to majoritarian tyranny.</p>
<p>Then whats the other option.. Minority tyranny ??!</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
Just think that Iâ€™m one of those who already holds that view today and will hopefully work towards creating that average view and try to ensure that it becomes the norm 50 years from now instead of 100. </p>
<p>Good. Its all right. </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;  I agree that the current Indian media (and even laws to some extent) are in fact hypocritical against the majority &#8211; the way to right that is to correct those laws and expose this hypocrisy every time it happens, not to match this hypocrisy with flawed FoS or Obscenity laws. </p>
<p>Well, then, how do you fight this hypocrisy and discrimination. Atleast for me, I cannot tolerate such potshots at us in the name of art. In an equal, non-discriminatory and just society, I would not even care for such art. But now I do. Unless the discrimination and hypocrisy stops, it is not even possible in 100 years, try as you much to achieve the morality standard that you want in 50 years. </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; technically the caricaturist can be jailed and his work will be banned.</p>
<p>How has RK Laxman managed to survive so long <img src='http://www.sandeepweb.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Right Winger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Winger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 10:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Varma guy quotes someone in his blog as saying

&quot;In short, he has this right only either on his own property or on the property of someone who has agreed, as a gift or in a rental contract, to allow him on the premises. In fact, then, there is no such thing as a separate â€œright to free speechâ€; there is only a manâ€™s property right: the right to do as he wills with his own or to make voluntary agreements with other property owners.&quot;

Is MS University the property of Chadramohan&#039;s father(i.e BAAP ka maal)???

MS University is certainly not public property.
In fact according to the Left&#039;s unofficial paper,the (anti)Hindu,MS university is one of the largest recipients of UGC aid.

Hence, we have every right to protest what is happening there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Varma guy quotes someone in his blog as saying</p>
<p>&#8220;In short, he has this right only either on his own property or on the property of someone who has agreed, as a gift or in a rental contract, to allow him on the premises. In fact, then, there is no such thing as a separate â€œright to free speechâ€; there is only a manâ€™s property right: the right to do as he wills with his own or to make voluntary agreements with other property owners.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is MS University the property of Chadramohan&#8217;s father(i.e BAAP ka maal)???</p>
<p>MS University is certainly not public property.<br />
In fact according to the Left&#8217;s unofficial paper,the (anti)Hindu,MS university is one of the largest recipients of UGC aid.</p>
<p>Hence, we have every right to protest what is happening there.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 23:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya right ! the entire liberal/left discourse if imported from the west and sunny boy gets angry by use of one term, albeit in quotes :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya right ! the entire liberal/left discourse if imported from the west and sunny boy gets angry by use of one term, albeit in quotes <img src='http://www.sandeepweb.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Harish Duggirala</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/05/21/the-fascism-debate-continues-here/comment-page-3/#comment-181317</link>
		<dc:creator>Harish Duggirala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 00:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.indianexpress.com/story/31929.html

I hope liberals will defend freedom of expression with the same zeal now.</description>
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<p>I hope liberals will defend freedom of expression with the same zeal now.</p>
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		<title>By: badindianmofo</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/05/21/the-fascism-debate-continues-here/comment-page-3/#comment-181240</link>
		<dc:creator>badindianmofo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 05:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, we have Indian &#039;right wingers&#039; masturbating over fantasies of themselves in Hannity-Coulter mode. LOL! So that&#039;s what things have come down to. May be these guys also defend Iraq. Gaurav said it right, stop importing political labels, it is pathetic (and makes you look like buffoons).

PS: Pseudo-secular is fine, that&#039;s our own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, we have Indian &#8216;right wingers&#8217; masturbating over fantasies of themselves in Hannity-Coulter mode. LOL! So that&#8217;s what things have come down to. May be these guys also defend Iraq. Gaurav said it right, stop importing political labels, it is pathetic (and makes you look like buffoons).</p>
<p>PS: Pseudo-secular is fine, that&#8217;s our own.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous coward</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 18:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@spartacus

if you cant read the difference between &quot;anonymous&quot; and &quot;anonymous coward&quot;, please dont pass judgements on others&#039; ability. the comment was by &quot;anonymous&quot; not &quot;anonymous coward&quot;, viz me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@spartacus</p>
<p>if you cant read the difference between &#8220;anonymous&#8221; and &#8220;anonymous coward&#8221;, please dont pass judgements on others&#8217; ability. the comment was by &#8220;anonymous&#8221; not &#8220;anonymous coward&#8221;, viz me.</p>
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		<title>By: Spartacus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spartacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 17:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;no one must have bothered to readâ€¦&lt;/i&gt;

anonymous coward, if you cannot drum up the courage to read, why do you assume that others are like you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>no one must have bothered to readâ€¦</i></p>
<p>anonymous coward, if you cannot drum up the courage to read, why do you assume that others are like you?</p>
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