Comments on: Sunday Slug Fest: Anantha Murthy and Bhyrappa http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/ Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:52:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Hari http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/comment-page-1/#comment-330538 Hari Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:23:19 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/#comment-330538 Good, sharp writeup. I would like to know whether an english translation of the book is available. I wished the voracious readers of Kerala who are puffed up with a diet of leftist propagandist literature get a glimpse of the sunlight that's peeping through Aavarana.. Good, sharp writeup. I would like to know whether an english translation of the book is available. I wished the voracious readers of Kerala who are puffed up with a diet of leftist propagandist literature get a glimpse of the sunlight that’s peeping through Aavarana..

]]> By: Guruprasad N http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/comment-page-1/#comment-294266 Guruprasad N Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:37:10 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/#comment-294266 This is simply superb! I hope there will be movements in Karnataka against these Ananthus of the world. This is simply superb! I hope there will be movements in Karnataka against these Ananthus of the world.

]]> By: who555ever http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/comment-page-1/#comment-225425 who555ever Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:14:51 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/#comment-225425 I just read the book & was happy to learn some real history of India instead of cooked up history we were fed before. I don't understand why there should be any controversy about between Hindus & Muslims if they learn the facts. learning the truth should create more harmony between them for the following reasons. 1. The current Muslims in India are the once whose ancestors suffered in the hands of the invaders more than the current Hindus ancestors. 2. If the facts are covered by lies, it is bound to cause more damage to the society as it already done by British rulers in India. It is like ash covered fire. when it is covered with ash we may step on it & get burnt. After the ash blows away & we can see the fire no sane person is going step on it to get burnt. As Indians we all should have the right to know our true history & acknowledge it weather it is pleasing to us or not. Only if we except the truth, we can give our next generation solid foundation. I just read the book & was happy to learn some real history of India instead of cooked up history we were fed before. I don’t understand why there should be any controversy about between Hindus & Muslims if they learn the facts. learning the truth should create more harmony between them for the following reasons.
1. The current Muslims in India are the once whose ancestors suffered in the hands of the invaders more than the current Hindus ancestors.
2. If the facts are covered by lies, it is bound to cause more damage to the society as it already done by British rulers in India. It is like ash covered fire. when it is covered with ash we may step on it & get burnt. After the ash blows away & we can see the fire no sane person is going step on it to get burnt. As Indians we all should have the right to know our true history & acknowledge it weather it is pleasing to us or not. Only if we except the truth, we can give our next generation solid foundation.

]]> By: Kashinath http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/comment-page-1/#comment-219441 Kashinath Thu, 17 Jan 2008 01:35:08 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/#comment-219441 Sandeep, The title "Ananthana Avaantara" would have been most suitable for this article. Kashinath Sandeep,
The title “Ananthana Avaantara” would have been most suitable for this article.
Kashinath

]]> By: Kumar http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/comment-page-1/#comment-219334 Kumar Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:06:32 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/#comment-219334 Sandeep, Any English translation of these books by Bhyrappa? Sandeep, Any English translation of these books by Bhyrappa?

]]> By: Prof. Shastry a.k.a. Prof U R Ananthamurthy http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/comment-page-1/#comment-219102 Prof. Shastry a.k.a. Prof U R Ananthamurthy Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:02:38 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/#comment-219102 Dear Sandeep, Why you guys are writing so many things against me? What I said about SL Bhyrappa is because of pure professional jealousy and nothing more. I havent written much like SL Bhyrappa but still I have got (a)Jyanapeetha award. ( and all those TA/DA , top posts , freeland etc etc) Tell me what SL Bhyrappa has got? East Or Best Prof. Shastry a.k.a. Prof U R Ananthamurthy is the best. Prof. Shastry a.k.a. Prof U R Ananthamurthy Dear Sandeep,
Why you guys are writing so many things against me?
What I said about SL Bhyrappa is because of pure professional jealousy and nothing more.
I havent written much like SL Bhyrappa but still I have got (a)Jyanapeetha award. ( and all those TA/DA , top posts , freeland etc etc) Tell me what SL Bhyrappa has got?
East Or Best Prof. Shastry a.k.a. Prof U R Ananthamurthy is the best.
Prof. Shastry a.k.a. Prof U R Ananthamurthy

]]> By: Charade of the Intellectuals » Seriously Sandeep http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/comment-page-1/#comment-198321 Charade of the Intellectuals » Seriously Sandeep Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:50:55 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/#comment-198321 [...] Sigh. The usual suspects. Anantha Murthy and Girish Karnad. You don’t even need to ask why they are opposing this "unholy alliance." [...] [...] Sigh. The usual suspects. Anantha Murthy and Girish Karnad. You don’t even need to ask why they are opposing this "unholy alliance." [...]

]]> By: M http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/comment-page-1/#comment-188321 M Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:54:53 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/#comment-188321 Sandeep, Just now I finished reading "Aavarana". This is one of the best I have read. I then started looking for info about "Aavarana" on internet. I found your review and this post. You have done a terrific review, great job. I am seeing Shastris all around, at different levels, fooling the world and themselves -M Sandeep,
Just now I finished reading “Aavarana”.
This is one of the best I have read.
I then started looking for info about “Aavarana” on internet.
I found your review and this post.
You have done a terrific review, great job.
I am seeing Shastris all around, at different levels, fooling the world and themselves

-M

]]> By: O privire asupra literaturii indiene - Anantha Murthy si Bhyrappa « .:: UnderWay ::. http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/comment-page-1/#comment-187120 O privire asupra literaturii indiene - Anantha Murthy si Bhyrappa « .:: UnderWay ::. Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:11:21 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/#comment-187120 [...] O privire asupra literaturii indiene - Anantha Murthy si Bhyrappa Noul roman al lui SL Bhyrappa, “Aavarana”, a fost asteptat cu mare nerabdare, asa cum e fiecare noua carte a lui, ce a urmat publicarii binecunoscutei Vamsha Vruksha, dupa cum suntem informati de link. Si Aavarana e intr-adevar un mare succes, fiind retiparita de trei ori in doar doua saptamani, fapt neobisnuit pentru o piata nu tocmai bogata in romane. “Aavarana” alterneaza intre prezentarea unei Indii de azi si a Indiei lui Aurangzeb, tehnica similara faimoaselor piesa-in-piesa din dramaturgie. Protagonista, o femeie hindusa, se converteste la Islam dupa ce fusese crescuta in spirit feminist progresiv, si dupa ce, murind tatal sau, se apuca sa cerceteze imprejurarile in care acesta a devenit aparent brusc interesat de Islam si de legaturile cu India. Studiile sale o aduc in pragul unor intrebari cu privire la propria ei educatie. Mentorul ei este Profesorul Shastri, pornind din acelasi sat cu eroina, avand orientari de stanga, un spirit puternic, cu multa vointa, aflat in bune relatii cu politicienii si avand capacitatea de a dobandi fonduri nelimitate. El aminteste de Anantha Murthy din viata reala, inclusiv purtand acea barba tipic socialista. Anantha Murthy e pe de alta parte un Comunist convins. Participand in Beijing la represiunea de catre guvern a miscarii populare din Piata Tiananmen, el scrie un jurnal de calatorie in care povesteste faptele, si in insemnari nu apare nici macar un cuvant prin care acesta sa dezaprobe masacrul. A fost pe rand, vice cancelar si apoi presedinte in mai multe organizatii culturale, si chiar pentru guvern, obtinand pamant pe gratis. Intr-un cuvant, e un oportunist, care stie bine in ce parte se va inclina balanta. Faima lui literara sta doar in Samskara. Restul scrierilor sunt mediocre. Non-fictiunea e destul de profunda si din cand in cand originala. In urma cu ceva vreme, era figura dominanta a miscarii literare Navya, fapt notat de Bhyrappa in biografia sa, miscare bazata pe idei din existentialism, socialism, comunism si altele. Pe de alta parte, Bhyrappa n-a apartinut nici unei miscari. Doctor in filosofie, si-a cautat radacinile in vechea filosofie indiana. teza sa de doctorat Adevar si Frumusete dezbatea relatiile intre adevar, frumusete, arta, etica, existenta si filosofie. Romanele sale sunt profund filosofice, inspirate fiind de Ananda Coomaraswamy, Swami Vivekananda, Sri Ramakrishna, Mahatma Gandhi, Upanishade. Ele au fost numite ca sustinatoare a tiraniei brahmanilor, retrograde, regresive, de carte progresisti, dar au avut mare succes, si i-au asigurat scriitorului un public loial, asa cum Anantha Murthy n-a fost capabil sa isi formeze. In biografia sa, Bhyrappa arata printre altele cum Anantha Murthy a incercat sa ii saboteze romanele, mai ales “Parva”, numindu-le romane populare, termen ce se opune celui de valoare literara. termenii insa nu sunt chiar opusi, un adevarat clasic al literaturii e si foarte popular si e nelimitat in timp. Asa sunt romanele lui Bhyrappa, pe care Murthy le discrediteaza pentru ca publicul sa nu le mai citeasca. Mai departe in biografie, Bhyrappa arata faptul ca eroul celui mai aclamat roman al lui Murthy e un intelept hindus care se insoara cu o femeie bolnava pentru a-si gasi implinirea in servirea ei, dar ea nu ii poate oferi mostenitori, ceea ce insa se opune conceptiei si credintei eroului romanului. Daca nu poate avea mostenitori, barbatul se poate insura din nou pentru a avea copii, dar va continua sa isi onoreze prima sotie. Eroul din roman cauta salvarea prin suferinta, insa, ceea ce e o conceptie crestina, nu hindusa. Astfel incat Bhyrappa pune la indoiala un intreg sistem filosofic al lui Murthy. Eroul ar fi putut fi un preot nescolit, dar nu e; este un invatat Dharmashastras. Mai departe insa, stim ca Murthy si-a scris cartea pentru publicul din Occident. Murthy e deci un politician stralucit dar nu o valoare literara. Si fiind politician, e un subiect pentru caricaturi. Fapt poe care-l realizeaza Bhyrappa in “Aavarana”. “Aavarana” prezinta fata sangeroasa a Islamului si a Aurangzebului. Si a devenit tinta criticilor lui Murthy, care spune despre autorul in discutie ca “nu cunoste deloc conceptele hinduse si nici arta povestitului, fiind doar un om ce isi expune opiniile, nu merge dincolo de ele, nu e creativ”. Acest atac la adresa lui Bhyrappa a fost condamnat insa la randul sau, astfel ca Murthy a declarat ca a fost gresit citat si ca se va abtine in viitor de la a face critica literara. Un raspuns tipic dat de un om cu conceptii invechite. Cand e prins in coltul propriilor sale conceptii.. [...] [...] O privire asupra literaturii indiene – Anantha Murthy si Bhyrappa Noul roman al lui SL Bhyrappa, “Aavarana”, a fost asteptat cu mare nerabdare, asa cum e fiecare noua carte a lui, ce a urmat publicarii binecunoscutei Vamsha Vruksha, dupa cum suntem informati de link. Si Aavarana e intr-adevar un mare succes, fiind retiparita de trei ori in doar doua saptamani, fapt neobisnuit pentru o piata nu tocmai bogata in romane. “Aavarana” alterneaza intre prezentarea unei Indii de azi si a Indiei lui Aurangzeb, tehnica similara faimoaselor piesa-in-piesa din dramaturgie. Protagonista, o femeie hindusa, se converteste la Islam dupa ce fusese crescuta in spirit feminist progresiv, si dupa ce, murind tatal sau, se apuca sa cerceteze imprejurarile in care acesta a devenit aparent brusc interesat de Islam si de legaturile cu India. Studiile sale o aduc in pragul unor intrebari cu privire la propria ei educatie. Mentorul ei este Profesorul Shastri, pornind din acelasi sat cu eroina, avand orientari de stanga, un spirit puternic, cu multa vointa, aflat in bune relatii cu politicienii si avand capacitatea de a dobandi fonduri nelimitate. El aminteste de Anantha Murthy din viata reala, inclusiv purtand acea barba tipic socialista. Anantha Murthy e pe de alta parte un Comunist convins. Participand in Beijing la represiunea de catre guvern a miscarii populare din Piata Tiananmen, el scrie un jurnal de calatorie in care povesteste faptele, si in insemnari nu apare nici macar un cuvant prin care acesta sa dezaprobe masacrul. A fost pe rand, vice cancelar si apoi presedinte in mai multe organizatii culturale, si chiar pentru guvern, obtinand pamant pe gratis. Intr-un cuvant, e un oportunist, care stie bine in ce parte se va inclina balanta. Faima lui literara sta doar in Samskara. Restul scrierilor sunt mediocre. Non-fictiunea e destul de profunda si din cand in cand originala. In urma cu ceva vreme, era figura dominanta a miscarii literare Navya, fapt notat de Bhyrappa in biografia sa, miscare bazata pe idei din existentialism, socialism, comunism si altele. Pe de alta parte, Bhyrappa n-a apartinut nici unei miscari. Doctor in filosofie, si-a cautat radacinile in vechea filosofie indiana. teza sa de doctorat Adevar si Frumusete dezbatea relatiile intre adevar, frumusete, arta, etica, existenta si filosofie. Romanele sale sunt profund filosofice, inspirate fiind de Ananda Coomaraswamy, Swami Vivekananda, Sri Ramakrishna, Mahatma Gandhi, Upanishade. Ele au fost numite ca sustinatoare a tiraniei brahmanilor, retrograde, regresive, de carte progresisti, dar au avut mare succes, si i-au asigurat scriitorului un public loial, asa cum Anantha Murthy n-a fost capabil sa isi formeze. In biografia sa, Bhyrappa arata printre altele cum Anantha Murthy a incercat sa ii saboteze romanele, mai ales “Parva”, numindu-le romane populare, termen ce se opune celui de valoare literara. termenii insa nu sunt chiar opusi, un adevarat clasic al literaturii e si foarte popular si e nelimitat in timp. Asa sunt romanele lui Bhyrappa, pe care Murthy le discrediteaza pentru ca publicul sa nu le mai citeasca. Mai departe in biografie, Bhyrappa arata faptul ca eroul celui mai aclamat roman al lui Murthy e un intelept hindus care se insoara cu o femeie bolnava pentru a-si gasi implinirea in servirea ei, dar ea nu ii poate oferi mostenitori, ceea ce insa se opune conceptiei si credintei eroului romanului. Daca nu poate avea mostenitori, barbatul se poate insura din nou pentru a avea copii, dar va continua sa isi onoreze prima sotie. Eroul din roman cauta salvarea prin suferinta, insa, ceea ce e o conceptie crestina, nu hindusa. Astfel incat Bhyrappa pune la indoiala un intreg sistem filosofic al lui Murthy. Eroul ar fi putut fi un preot nescolit, dar nu e; este un invatat Dharmashastras. Mai departe insa, stim ca Murthy si-a scris cartea pentru publicul din Occident. Murthy e deci un politician stralucit dar nu o valoare literara. Si fiind politician, e un subiect pentru caricaturi. Fapt poe care-l realizeaza Bhyrappa in “Aavarana”. “Aavarana” prezinta fata sangeroasa a Islamului si a Aurangzebului. Si a devenit tinta criticilor lui Murthy, care spune despre autorul in discutie ca “nu cunoste deloc conceptele hinduse si nici arta povestitului, fiind doar un om ce isi expune opiniile, nu merge dincolo de ele, nu e creativ”. Acest atac la adresa lui Bhyrappa a fost condamnat insa la randul sau, astfel ca Murthy a declarat ca a fost gresit citat si ca se va abtine in viitor de la a face critica literara. Un raspuns tipic dat de un om cu conceptii invechite. Cand e prins in coltul propriilor sale conceptii.. [...]

]]> By: Padmini Bhat http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/comment-page-1/#comment-182603 Padmini Bhat Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:13:13 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/06/03/sunday-slug-fest-anantha-murthy-and-bhyrappa/#comment-182603 Great critique sandeep.You rock! Great critique sandeep.You rock!

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