While the whole establishment and media is busy making a hero out of Haneef, the gentlemanly Finance Minister sneaks this announcement.
The government asked public sector banks to raise lending to minority communities, including Muslims, Christians and Sikhs, to 15 per cent of total priority sector advances over the next three years.
“The lending to minority communities has reached about 9 per cent out of total lending to the priority sector. The goal is to take it to 15 per cent in three years and banks will move in that direction,” Finance Minister P Chidambaram said after a meeting with chairmen of state-run banks.
I actually have a better suggestion. Take this to the next logical step and establish Islamic banking and have separate laws guiding it.
Tags: Commentary, Indian Politics, Pseudo Secularism Hall of Shame, Society & Culture
On 08.01.07 Palahalli says:
Sandeep,
I think it was always clear that our unscrupulous politicos roasted a lot of chapattis *votes* on the “minority” stove. Whether these antics really succeeded is another matter. But “results” or the lack of it has never stopped these fellows from trying.
And…this will continue up until the time the opposition learns to deal with the powers that be and people at large, more intelligently.
Regards,
On 08.01.07 Ot says:
Har, har. Comrade Halli is all reasonable. I especially applaud the fact that he doesn’t want to apply for a loan under the quota. Like I said earlier, there’s hope yet that the good comrade can be redeemed.
While on the subject, I suggest that we do not put a single paisa in public sector banks. Such a stand, apart from being a principled one, also makes sound economic sense. But it is really the poor people and lower middle-class who will take the brunt of PC’s secular assault on banks. Because there aren’t many private banks in villages and small towns, the said strata of people are forced to park their savings in government banks. Aam aadmi kaa sarkaar hai yeh bhai!
On 08.01.07 shadows says:
Sandeep,
First of all, how can you increase loan sanctions to minorities?? Force loans on them? Nahi lena loan fir bhi dena hai kya?
Reminds me of your earlier post on banking , icici banks bad practices.. So what do banks do if they are forced to concede bad loans?
1. They give loans to minorities on softer terms and still give loans even if the borrower does not meet the basic criteria, so that they meet the govt deadlines.
2. They hike interest rates to cover the loss due to forced loans to minorities.. Hindus pay more, and pay for minorities.
3. Banks recruit goondas to recover loans from defaulters.. Now, its not easy to get money from the minorities
So the goondas are put to good use against Hindus 
Islamic banking?? No, it would go a step further, the enlightened FM also said something about setting up islamic stock exchanges quite some time ago..
On 08.01.07 shadows says:
Also,
Would islamic banking mean lower loan rates for muslims?? Like cheaper home loans, cheaper car loans etc.
How would disputes be resolved? Via Sharia ??
On 08.02.07 Anonymous says:
All this is driven by [apart from votes of course] the idea that Muslims are oh-so-poor lots. We keep hearing “poor” muslims, “backward” muslims etc etc ad nauseam.
The fact is that there are more poor Hindus than muslims in India, even %age wise.
And Congress and its fellow secular cohorts have a simple solution for all problems - give dollops. You don’t have jobs, ok we’ll reserve seats for you in IIMs and IITS etc. You can’t find a job even after IIM , no worries, we’ll ask Tatas and Ambanis to reserve positions in their companies. Of course our government offices are always open for you.
If “poor” muslims don’t have money, no issues. We’ll give you loans. We know you are not going to return us the money anyways; so what? You can keep this our-baap-ki-jagir , middle class tax money for use in your day to day life.
The idea is that all Hindus got everything on the platter. They just came to birth in Hindu families and wow ! look they are now successful and rich. All muslims are poor because well they are muslims so they have to be poor, no?
Don’t look at Azim Premji or for that matter half of the stinking rich Bollywood guys. They are just exceptions to the great poor muslim community.
But i wouldn’t blame muslims for this plight. Chidambaram is a hindu [painfully] and if he licks their asses how can muslims be blamed?
We just take out our frustrations on the muslims; the fact is the real villains are the large number of Chidambaram-Hindus that we need to direct our frustrations towards.
What can muslims do if Hindus are bending over backwards [and sometimes forwards to help screw from behind] ?
On 08.02.07 Palahalli says:
Sandeep, this obviously is a bigger debate.
Before this degenerates into Islam this and Islam that…
Some basic questions come to mind;
1. What is the role of Public Banks in India?
2. If these Banks are privatized, will they be able to fulfill the needs of the common man in this country?
3. Can, say the RBI, still maintain “directive” control over Pvt. Banks?
4. Easy loan disbursement has a “hoary” tradition in this country. Most politicians across all parties usually have “free farm loans”..”writeoffs”…along with other promises. These are of course, generally delivered. I remember Janardhan Poojari’s “Loan Melas”. Those were..most of them, if not all, bad loans.
The question is, can we do without some such mechanism? Where is the problem? Disbursing or collecting? Can there be a mechanism that can “project plan” the use of such loans?
I am sure all these have been answered in detail…somewhere..but what are your thoughts?
Regards,
On 08.02.07 Shailendra Mathur says:
I think its not just the public sector banks, but also the private sector banks that have been issued the diktat of priority lending to minorities (remember the other famous speech of our Mad PM, about minorities having the first right on country’s resources; before it was supplanted in dhimmitude by his speech about losing sleep on the plight of poor terrorists). So now its raining sops for the “poor” minorities. Not surprising considering the countdown to 2009 elections will start soon.
And yes Islamic banking has also passed muster in the government’s secular policies. There was talk about having an Islamic index too. While we are at it, we might as well implement the whole Shariat for the Muslims. Not just the civil laws, but criminal laws for Muslims should also be framed in accordance with the Shariat. So a Muslim thief gets his limbs chopped off, a Muslim rapist would be beheaded, and a Muslim adulterer will be stoned alive. Why only pick and chose those laws of the Shariat which they find desirable (such as four marriages and divorce by uttering talaq thrice)?
On 08.02.07 Palahalli says:
I agree with “Anonymous” when he says we should be directing our frustrations elsewhere.
Going for Muslims just seems too easy and convenient, to be the right.
On 08.02.07 shadows says:
>>>> Not just the civil laws, but criminal laws for Muslims should also be framed in accordance with the Shariat. So a Muslim thief gets his limbs chopped off, a Muslim rapist would be beheaded, and a Muslim adulterer will be stoned alive. Why only pick and chose those laws of the Shariat which they find desirable (such as four marriages and divorce by uttering talaq thrice)?
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Very good point Shailendrajee,
Why this hypocrisy.. Why arent criminal laws as per Sharia? Any good reason why so?
But of course, the standard secular answer would be that its against basic humanity and its tyrannical etc (Koranic laws tyrannical? hmm.. ok, its not tyrannical). Of course, since Hindus are involved, the discrimination and double-standards can go to hell…
>>> Before this degenerates into Islam this and Islam that…
Look who is talking.. Palahalli is holier than all of us
he never says islam this or islam that 
LOLzz…
Palahalli,
>>1. What is the role of Public Banks in India?
The same role as all other banks, and additional duties include “serving the nation” , giving interest free loans to farmers (still farmers commit suicide), selling forms for UPSC, CAT, IIT-JEE and other assorted exams. Of course, now it includes giving loans to downtrodden muslims..
Please dont ask stupid questions.. use your head
On 08.02.07 shadows says:
>> Going for Muslims just seems too easy and convenient
Palahalli,
Read other entries of this blog and then suggest that muslims are innocent about all this…
On 08.02.07 shadows says:
>>> I agree with “Anonymous” when he says we should be directing our frustrations elsewhere.
palahalli,
The anonymous person also implies that we should be going for the secular muslim-ass-licking people like manmohan , sonia and chidambaram..
Selective quoting to suit your needs, eh
Talk about intellectual dishonesty 
LOL..
On 08.02.07 Palahalli says:
Shadows…
What “other” blogs would you have me read? Point them out, since you mention them, and then I can respond.
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“The anonymous person also implies that we should be going for the secular muslim-ass-licking people like manmohan , sonia and chidambaram..
Selective quoting to suit your needs, eh Talk about intellectual dishonesty LOL.. ”
- I think you have a problem comprehending posts.
This is what I also said..”we should be directing our frustrations elsewhere.”
I would appreciate it if you own up to your blunder this time.
Your attitude seems to be “ignore evidences”. This will lose you credibility quicker than you think.
Regards,
On 08.02.07 Palahalli says:
Errata - Please make that “blog entries”.
On 08.02.07 Shailendra Mathur says:
Palahalli, I had pointed out some authoritative sources to you in one of my previous messages, that pointed out Islamic culpability in the violence that engulfs the world today. Its not certain from your comments whether you think that the Muslim community is by and large peaceful, containing a few bad apples, who have somehow “distorted” the religion of peace; but if you seem to think so, you will be disabused of your notion if you read :
http://thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/
http://markhumphrys.com/islam.html
http://www.danielpipes.org/art/year/all
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Main_Page
If you have already gone through these websites and you think its Jewish/ Christian/ Hindu propaganda to malign the poor, oppressed Muslims, I would suggest you read the Quran in full (any English translation will do). If you find the book mind numblingly boring, idiotic and inconsistent, don’t blame me :D.
If even that doesn’t convince you, nothing will.
On 08.02.07 Mayuresh Gaikwad says:
I always have had one question on this particular scheme: - 15% of the loans are for minority community. Does it mean that the remaining 85% are exclusively for Hindus only? If we take this to the logical conclusion, 85% of the jobs, educational seats etc. are for Hindus, 15% for Minorities, etc. And since the minorities are multiplying faster than Hindus, these numbers should be dynamically changed. Finally, we will have equality for all:
1. All Indians will be equally poor
2. All Indians will be slaves to this equality concept
3. No Indian will have the freedom of speech
4. No Indian will have the ability to start the business, etc.
5. All Indians will be treated as outer party members by the establishment
6. Finally, All Indians will be equal, everyone will be a slave
On 08.02.07 Vikas says:
Shadows post #3: Maybe banks send out loan-thela’s in muzzie ghettoes with azaan-sorta call - loan le lo, waapis mat karo. Hell, who doesn’t like a free baksheesh, errr, loan.
Point 2 viz. interest rates sounds more like a ‘backdoor jizya’ where kaffirs subsidize the ‘faithfuls’ ineptness,laziness and idiocy. Shameless muslim wretches always asking for free handouts worldover! This dhimmi govt. has again proven that kaffirs cannot hope to get what a muslim gets easily just for being a muslim.
On 08.02.07 Ravindra says:
In countries where Hindus are a minority and Muslims are a majority, the Hindus are treated as second class citizens! (e.g. any middle eastern country, Pakistan, etc)
In the only country where Hindus are majority and Muslims are (sizeable) minority, the Hindus are still second class citizens!
I can only blame Hindus for this state of affairs!
On 08.02.07 Palahalli says:
Mathurji, without getting into the “old” debate again, my statement was with a specific reference in mind. That reference happens to be Chidambaram’s directive to State Banks.
My position..is simply this. Who needs to be criticized? The Minister and some of our government’s brash policies? Or the people whom this Minister and our govt. is seemingly targeting for their “welfare”.
I have been going through all of those sites you pasted..and I know that each has its own view on how the menace of Islamist terror can be tackled. Some afford no distinction between the Islamist and the common Muslim.
You will forgive me if I remain skeptical of some of these “solutions”.
Regards,
On 08.02.07 B Shantanu says:
Sandeep:
You and some of your readers will find this post interesting:
Time to nail the Muslim backwardness myth?
and
How the Muslim community may have missed the great gold rush
On 08.02.07 B Shantanu says:
The links to the two articles are here:
http://satyameva-jayate.org/2006/11/26/specious-arguments-false-propaganda/
and
http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/04/05/muslim-backwardness-may-be-myth/
On 08.02.07 Ot says:
Comrade Halli claimed with a straight face:
“Going for Muslims just seems too easy and convenient”
If a contest is held for uttering duplicitous homilies, our Comrade should emerge the undisputed champion. I mean, he has made it his life’s mission to target Hindus on this blog, and on top of it has the cheek to accuse others of “going for” “Muslims”, as if “Muslims” are one solid entity!
I remain in awe of Comrade’s “father”. It is not so easy to brainwash a human being so comprehensively. Stalins and Maos would approve.
On 08.02.07 socal says:
Now you can be assured that the ISI won’t even have to finance its operations anymore. I bet some creative and resourceful islamofascist will manage to channel these funds for some suburban fireworks here and a little insurgency there. And then Manmohan will be left to uttering his usual platitudes. Not that he does anything different even now.
On 08.02.07 socal says:
Ayan Harsi Ali, a muslim speaks about muslims.
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2007/08/my_view_of_islam.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
On 08.03.07 Shailendra Mathur says:
“You will forgive me if I remain skeptical of some of these “solutions”.”
@Palahalli :So you accept that there is a problem. That is good enough for now :D.
“Some afford no distinction between the Islamist and the common Muslim.”
Believe me, there is no distinction. How many of these “common Muslims”, living in the West, speak out against the Islamists? How many of them demonstrate against terrorist activities carried out by their brethren? These same Muslims get time to demonstrate against the Iraq war, Guantanamo prisoners and Danish cartoons. You cannot even say they are afraid to speak out for they live in some of the most open societies in Europe and the US.
I had seen an interesting case being made out against Muslim migration to the West. The commentator said, that possibly all Muslims are not terrorists, but in the current situation it is difficult to distinguish an innocent Muslim from a terrorist. Moderate Muslims if they exist haven’t made their presence felt in any significant way, except for individuals like Ayan Hirsi Ali and Taslima Nasreen. So if they admit Muslims it is possible that many extremists will also get in and they will wreak havoc in the Western society. If moderate Muslims’ contribution to society was so great that it could offset the damage due to terrorist activities, it might have made a case for Muslim immigration. But even that is not true. Muslims migrants, be it in UK, France or Scandinavia, mostly procreate (having half a dozen kids is par for the course) and leech onto social welfare systems. So not only is there no benefit to be had from allowing common Muslims to emigrate, it introduces the additional risk of letting in Jihadists.
Regarding your question about Chidambaram’s directive, all of us accept that the present government is the most iniquitous, and the current PM the most inept we have seen so far in our 60 years of democracy. All I am trying to say is, government’s pandering to the obscurantist sections of the society, and the rise in extremism go hand in hand.
On 08.03.07 anonymous coward says:
http://www.ibnlive.com/blogs/sagarikaghose/223/2220/shshshmuslim.html
recommended for a good laugh :)!
On 08.03.07 shadows says:
>>> Who needs to be criticized? The Minister and some of our government’s brash policies? Or the people whom this Minister and our govt. is seemingly targeting for their “welfare”.
Both ! In contrast to the number of Hindus who criticized Babri Masjid demolition, hardly a single muslim will come forward and criticize such appeasement at the cost of Hindus. Even if they do, it will not be without some conditions and invocation of some passage of the Koran .
LOLzz..
On 08.03.07 shadows says:
>>> Even if they do, it will not be without some conditions and invocation of some passage of the Koran .
LOLzz..
Add to above, the usual whining about their sad plight, how the West is bad, Islam is religion of peace, etc and blaming BJP or RSS for everything wrong with them.
On 08.03.07 shadows says:
Socal,
The link you posted.. too good.. bluntly tells things as they are without obfuscation. Reposting the link again.
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2007/08/my_view_of_islam.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
On 08.04.07 Prudent Indian says:
Just to add some element of entertainment.This whole Gang of UPA is …some what well this couplet sums it up clearly.
“Ek He Ullu Kafi Tha,
Barbaad - E _ Hindustan Karney Ko.
Har Seat Pe Ullu Baitha Hai,
Anjam - E - Hindustan Kaya Hoga!”
adabb
PI
On 08.15.07 xyz says:
I found an astonishing full page advt. in “Hindu” by the HRD Ministry enjoining coaching centres for IIT/IAS exams ,specially for minorities ,to register at the ministry for special subsidy for both the centres as well as the students studying there.I found this in the 9th August,chennai edition.
On 08.16.07 shadows says:
I found an astonishing full page advt. in “Hindu” by the HRD Ministry enjoining coaching centres for IIT/IAS exams ,specially for minorities ,to register at the ministry for special subsidy for both the centres as well as the students studying there.I found this in the 9th August,chennai edition.
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Yeah, I too saw that.. in Times of India.
Bloody muslim ass-lickers…