India wins the crucial 20-20 cup in an exhilarating match against arch-rivals Pakistan. The whole country celebrates. But–and as expected, we always have souls violently disenchanted with their own nation’s victory.
A group of youths who were celebrating the Indian team’s victory in the Twenty 20 cricket final between India and Pakistan were attacked by a group of alleged NDF activists at Paruthukuzhi near Poonthura here on Monday night.
Each time India wins a cricket match against Pakistan, I fail to fathom why these Islamic morons go on a senseless rampage. The media of course, always lends a helping shoulder by smothering the disturbing news.
If some Hindus had smashed a few chairs, etc if Pakistan had won, how would the media react….
Tags: Commentary, Indian Politics, Islam Watch, Media Watch, Pseudo Secularism Hall of Shame, Society & Culture
On 09.25.07 Sri says:
Islamic morons
SHHH..Sandeep.
Don’t you know? terrorism has no religion.
If some Hindus had smashed a few chairs
well..Terrorism has n-….oops did you say Hindu?
HINDU FUNDAMENTALISM!!!!!
On 09.25.07 Mystic Fire says:
Sandeep,
Probably Shoaib Malik was referring to these morons when he said this during the presentation ceremony : “First of all I want to say something over here. I want to thank you back home Pakistan and where the Muslim lives all over the world.”
On 09.25.07 shadows says:
Sandeep,
Now now.. you cannot violate the fundamental(ist) rights of Muslim minorities to support any other team apart from India !!
On 09.25.07 socal says:
Note the caution in identifying: “alleged NDF activists.” While there’s no such rider with regards to Hindu activists. The Maoists fare even better.
On 09.25.07 Palahalli says:
Islam and Cricket?
Did the Muslim players in the Indian team do their utmost to sabotage this match?
Fair question to ask..no?
On 09.25.07 sandeep says:
probably they where disappointed and not satisfied by paki skipper shoiab malik ’s apology to entire muslim world !!!
On 09.26.07 Anonymous says:
these people are so sad… they don’t even know what life is beyond islam…
isn’t that truly sad? imagine u coming to this world and living for say 80 years and all you could do of yourself is learn koran, get frustrated for palestine,kashmir and what you have, spill venom on the west, have untalented and silly people like Mahesh and Pooja Bhatt make movies for you and then leave this world.. wasn’t that called leaving in hell?
i mean if a wretched man like Mahesh Bhatt has to stand up for you and use his whore … sorry daughter .. to make movies for you… how annoyingly low one can feel…
lets not spoil our party for lowly gutter insects… and enjoy this movement… atleast for sometime..
On 09.26.07 rawem says:
Communal clashes in Jammu after T20 win
25 Sep 2007, 1445 hrs IST
“Trouble started on Monday night soon after India won the match as some persons belonging to a community pelted stones on a group of people of the other community who were bursting crackers to celebrate India’s victory over Pakistan.” (ToI-let paper, Delhi)
As a kid, this was an interesting pastime? Identify who’s who?
On 09.26.07 Ot says:
Two enities communalized circket in the subcontinent.
The first is Pakistan. Its leaders and criketers projected an India-Pakistan contest as not just another game of cricket, but as a clash between Hindus and “Muslims”; more specifically, between Hindus and Islam. Recall Imran Khan’s infamous quote: “a victory for Pakistan is a victory for Islam.” This meant, naturally, that a defeat for Pakistan is a defeat of Islam. But how can a Muslim ever admit that Islam is defeatable? So Pakis invented a lot of make-believe to rationalize Pakistan’s cricketing defeats against India. Usually it is blamed on match-fixing. The imputation is that if it were a “fair” game, Pakistan and Islam would have won, but the devious brahmin-bania Hindus manipulated the match. When Pakistan lost to India in 1996 World Cup quarter finals, mullahs blamed it on Allah’s anger. Allah was allegedly angry with the Pakis because they let a woman (Benazir Bhutto) rule Pakistan. For a woman to govern a “Muslim” country is, of course, very very anti-Islamic.
The second entity to communalize cricket into a Hindu vs “Muslim” contest is Indian media. Indian media go to great lengths to highlight the presence of “Muslim” players in the team, and insinuate that (Hindu) Indians ought to be grateful to these players for playing for India. Yesterday’s TOI’s frontpage carried a picture of Irfan Pathan’s dad kneeling in prayer, doubly emphasizing the player’s “Muslim”-ness. We’ve had Sikh, Christian and even Parsi cricketers represent India, but neither their communities nor the media on their behalf pretended that we need to show gratitude to Sikhs, Christians etc for condescneding to put their talents to India’s use. Vast numbers of cricket fans across the country adore talented players unconscious of the latter’s religious identity, and the political animals in Indian media makes it a point to force them to lose that innocence. (Actually, think about it: the presence of Muslims in Indian team puts paid to the media’s sachar-esque propaganda that Muslims are discriminated against. The Pathan brothers come not from the communist paradise of West Bengal, but from “communal” Gujarat. But obviously, the media propagnadists are oblivious of such incovenient truths.)
Pakistan and Indian media may not exactly be hand-in-glove in communalizing cricket, but their interests in the matter definitely converge.
On 09.26.07 Harish Duggirala says:
“Gadarpur (Uttarakhand): Members of two communities clashed in Gadarpur late Monday soon after India’s victory over Pakistan in the Twenty20 World Cup final in Johannesburg, after which police fired in the air to disperse the warring groups.
Five persons were injured in the clash, which took place after some people took out a procession to celebrate the victory of Indian cricket team, which was objected to by members of the other community, police said, adding four persons were rounded up.
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14532545 ”
The 2 communities must be those damned Jain monks and communal Naga Sadhus I am sure !!!!
On 09.26.07 Kumar says:
Pallahalli,
Islam and Cricket?
It’s not that we brought it up. It was Shoaib. And the deafening silence that followed from the media is underappreciated. Imagine if Dhoni had thanked ‘all Hindus’ who prayed for team India - he’d be looking for a new job along with a new haircut, no?
I’m glad most Indians are above such petty issues.
Did the Muslim players in the Indian team do their utmost to sabotage this match?
Fair question to ask..no?
Your defination of fair must be, pretty shall we say, unfair? I think it’s a loaded question based on the assumption that hindus don’t appreciate the work done by Irfan/Yusuf and are looking for scapegoats even when we won.
Just as an fyi, even CM Modi has announced awards for the duo from Gujarat - I’m sure it’s not sitting well with those who carry secularism up their sleeves. So your question’s answered. The really fair question to ask would be: Now this certain communities or people resorting to violence in name of their religion and cricket, how are they really honoring the stellar performance of the two patriotic muslim in Indian cricket team? Or they don’t consider them true muslims or Indians?
On 09.26.07 Chandra says:
“And the deafening silence that followed from the media is underappreciated.”
I think TOI and IE had news articles on Shoaib’s comment with players parents speaking up.
Apparently Narendra Modi annouced 5 lakhs for Pathan brothers. It’s quite normal for state govt to do that. But the fun is when BCCI (which voted against twenty20 when it was first proposed) and Rahul baba’s party push the cricket team into background.
Wasn’t Dhoni yet to be constructed home, on government plot, destroyed just few months ago. Now he’s a hero. Man these guys go from narakam to swargam (and back again) pretty fast!
On 09.26.07 Anonymous says:
OT,
Great analysis.
On 09.27.07 Palahalli says:
Kumar: The article head gives the impression that Islam motivates Muslims to take on anti-India stances. *I stand corrected if this is wrong.*
I had to ask if the Muslims in the team are potential saboteurs.
This has nothing to do with “Hindus” not appreciating Muslim players or players of any other religion in the Indian Team.
I concur with Chandra when he speaks of the “Hero-Villain” syndrome within us when it comes to cricketing wins and losses. Especially against Pakistan.
Aside - I am very pleased that Ot is finally coming to terms with diverse human behavior. Good analysis btw.
On 09.27.07 Ot says:
More communalization of cricket by media is going on at full pace as we speak. The culrpits are mostly Congress mouthpieces like CNNIBN and Indian Express.
It started with Gujarat unit of the Congress party attempting to exploit the cricket victory for upcoming elections. The party found fault with “Narendra Modi” (that is, Gujarat government) not announcing any cash award for I&Y Pathans. The party’s media partners took the cue. IBN came out with the headline: “Narendra Modi Ignores Pathan Brothers”. Indian Express went a step further: “Modi Blind to Glory of Pathans”. The insinuation of the Congress media is clear: Pathans didn’t get cash prizes from Guj government because they are poor vicitmized “Muslims” and “narendra Modi” did not give them those prizes because he is the representative of evil, oppressive Hindus. Logical extension of this insinuation is, “Hindus don’t give credit to Muslims even when they winning matches for India.”
Communalization not just of cricket, but of awards system as well.
The cash doles announced by governments don’t come out of Prannoy Roy’s or Rajdeep Sardesai’s or Shekhar Gupta’s well-lined pockets. Tax-payers are paying for them. It would be nice if Sardesai gifted his dad’s property to Pathans or to Dravid or to Umrigar or whoever, and likewise it would be nice if Prannoy Roy the relative of Comrade Karat gifted a couple of crores of NDTV money to cricketers, but it is none of these gentlemen’s business to armtwist governments into showering players with taxpayer money.
On 09.27.07 Kumar says:
Palahalli: Kumar: The article head gives the impression that Islam motivates Muslims to take on anti-India stances. *I stand corrected if this is wrong.*
I think you’ve formed an opinion of this blog which drives to react at what you perceive the blogger is saying rather than what the blogger is actually saying.
Happened in earlier thread too if I’m not mistaken. *I too stand corrected if this is wrong.*
On 09.27.07 Palahalli says:
Kumar: I don’t think my “opinion” of Sandeep’s blog is very wrong. What is more important is that articles be challenged also. In this particular case, the title and content of “Islam & Cricket” does not tie in with the Indian team’s Muslim players not being saboteurs.
Do you disagree?
On 09.28.07 Kumar says:
Palahalli, You are entitled to your opinion. But let’s hold authors to the words/letters he writes about. Not one thinks he’s writing about. It’s no different than others calling you names based on what they think you are saying - which might not be same as what you are actually saying. Challenging for sake of challenging is like doing mine is bigger than yours - end of day both end up naked and humiliated. So, growing up is better alternative.
Do you disagree?
Any words in here by Sandeep on Muslim players in Indian cricket team. Let me know, and we’ll take it from there.
On 09.28.07 Anon says:
“Muslim players in Indian cricket team” If muslim players EVEN try to sabotage, all the green bucks from ad assignments will disappear.And green bucks are greater than any religion.
On 09.28.07 Palahalli says:
Kumar, thank you for your patient responses.
But, I have stronger reasons to hold my opinion.
First, the title: Islam and Cricket; leaves one in no doubt about the community that stands accused.
Second, the responses take the lead. It’s not criminal elements amongst Muslims, its Muslims per se.
Our friend Anonymous says it best. This gentleman has even forgotten the not so distant match-fixing scandal…that involved not just Muslim players….but “Hindu” players too.
“Any words in here by Sandeep on Muslim players in Indian cricket team. Let me know, and we’ll take it from there.”
- Well, when Islam stands accused as prime motivator…there should be no doubt about Muslim players..should there? Or are these Muslims..not Muslims at all?
But Sir… you are entitled to your opinion.
On 09.28.07 Kumar says:
First, the title: Islam and Cricket; leaves one in no doubt about the community that stands accused.
If there’s an article title: “Islam and Banking” or “Islam and Provident Fund” or “Islam and Mutual Funds” or “Islam and Finances” - would you, without having read the article, call it communal or accuse author of communal bias?
Well, when Islam stands accused as prime motivator…there should be no doubt about Muslim players..should there?
There’s not one deorgatory word about either Irfan Pathan or Yusuf Pathan or even past players like Kaif, Kirmani, Durani etc.. so let’s not try to build strawman to support an opinion which really doesn’t have legs. And yes, it’s your opinion and you are entitled to one.
On 09.29.07 Harish Duggirala says:
Palahalli did you join therapy for your lil prob of pissing in ur pants whenever u see Mustafa?
Why don’t you have any problem with saying Muslims instead of saying “Muslims”, is it the fear of Mustafa that prevents you?
On 09.29.07 Palahalli says:
Harish…move or i’ll step on you. I don’t like roaches.
Kumar - I’d like to carry my opinion with conviction. It’s disingenious to claim that Muslim players are of one mould and non-cricketing Muslims are of another. It’s more straightforward to admit that a general anti-Islam/Muslim tone and intent *c’mon Kumar, none of us are kids here!* cannot carry its own weight in this case also.
I dont think you’ll budge…and neither will I.
On 09.29.07 Kumar says:
Palahalli:
It’s disingenious to claim that Muslim players are of one mould and non-cricketing Muslims are of another
Where exactly is this claim made? Most here would applaud for the stellar work by muslims like Kalam too.
You don’t have to budge - it’s not my intention. I’m still trying to figure out glue you are using to stick to your stance.
On 09.29.07 Harish Duggirala says:
“Harish…move or i’ll step on you. I don’t like roaches.”
like I am scared u loser, u think i care wht u like & don’t like?
answer my question, why r u sayin Muslims instead of “Muslims”, is it cuz u r scared?
n stop tryin to act tuff wen u r just another wankster, if u ever in Toronto, show up at Scarborough, 711 Kennedy Road, 210, M1K2C3, we will see who will step on whom wanker, until then u r just another cyber loser that tries to act hard and stroke your own ego by taking potshots at Hindus.
& get that therapy, i’m sure even mommy is disgusted at u by now.
On 09.29.07 Oldtimer says:
>>First, the title: Islam and Cricket; leaves one in no doubt about the community that stands accused.
>>Well, when Islam stands accused as prime motivator…there should be no doubt about Muslim players..should there?
Comrade Halli,
I have advised you several times to calm your nerves before reading stuff that you know will run counter to the beliefs you were indoctrinated in from childhood. If you approach others’ viewpoins with a crooked Commie-Christian mindset, you will read just what you want to read, and that will get your bile up. Do you know the one about a man with a flat tyre?
Try Yoga. Pranayama does help. When in a peaceful relaxed state of mind, read Sandeep’s blog again. He is describing an incident in which Indians celebtrating India’s victory were attacked by Islamist thugs.
Now, pause and ponder. Why should anyone get upset by Indians celebrating India’s victory in India? Ponder deeper. Have you heard of celebrations getting attacked when, say, India won against England or West Indies?
You are neither innocent nor braindead so you know why the celebration was attacked. India won against Pakistan, which, to Islamist thugs, is an upset in itself. The late Ali Mian, great Islamic “scholar” and darling of ’secular’ politicians, lamented after 1971 war that Indian “Muslims” were distressed by Pakistan’s defeat in the war.
Why do Indian Islamists desire their own country’s defeat at the hands of Pakistan, be it in cricket or in a war? The reason is a simple. It is a tenet of Islam that all “Muslims” are one nation.
Now, we Hindus don’t believe that all “Muslims” follow all Islamic tenets. All Hindus don’t follow all Hindu tenets, nor do all Christians follow all Christian beliefs. There’s this fine gentleman by the name of Kalam, ex-President. Does he believe that “Muslims” are one nation transcending territorial loyalties? Of course not. He spent a good part of his life building weaponry to deter Pakistan’s genocidal intentions.
But, trained as you are in Marxist fanaticism, and living in a make-believe world where a “Muslim” is a monolithic reality and Hindu is not, you seem to believe that all “Muslims” blindly endorse all Islamic tenets. From this belief you make another leap of logic, which is that to question or highlight any tenet of Islam or any deviant Islamist behavior that stems from this belief is to “accuse” or “attack” all “Muslims”. And you proceed forthwith to issue a battle cry: “Islam khatre mei hain!”. More loyal than Allah himself, I should say. It is a misfortune of Islamists that you are not officially a “Muslim”.
The long and short of it is, to a juandiced man the world looks tinted. If you have a poor opinion of “Muslims” as a fanatical people who believe in ummah and dar-ul-Islam concepts, you will think everybody has the same opinion about them too.
The problem is not with Sandeep, Comrade. It is with you.
>>It’s more straightforward to admit that a general anti-Islam/Muslim tone and intent *c’mon Kumar, none of us are kids here!* cannot carry its own weight in this case also.
Well, the fact of the matter, Comrade Halli, is that your knee-jerkism is a byproduct of your anti-Hindu bigotry. Your frantic search (with an electron microscope) for, and the inevitable “discovery” of, “anti-Muslim” sentiment in Sandeep’s and others’ posts here is the result of an urge to brand Hindus as prejudiced. It is my suspicion that you don’t get a peaceful night’s sleep unless you accused some Hindu or the other during the day of being “anti-Muslim”. That is your way of venting your own prejudice against Hindus. I told you earlier: commies always project their complexes on to their hate objects.
On 09.29.07 Kumar says:
Oldtimer: Shourie writes that in India one’s accquires/retains their secular identity by calling others communal.
On 09.29.07 Palahalli says:
Mr.Duggirala….stay on in Canada till such time as they tolerate you there. When they decide they’ve had enough of your brown skin…come back to India and call me on my number posted on the blog.
Ot; You seem to revel in your trash. You and your fellows become blind when your kind accuse ALL Muslims of being retrograde and medieval.Show me where you have argued against such bigotry! Check my posts again….and let me know if you come up with something where I say Muslims are One Ummah! They are One only in so far as their most basic belief in Mohammed and Allah are concerned. Thence they are scattered.Some restrict themselves…others accept their surrounding diversity.
Coming to Kalam or any of the Muslim cricket players….I want to know if you think they don’t believe in Mohammed and Allah? And if they do…then as per Hindutva rantings….why do they not seem One with the rest of their fellows across our borders and beyond? Inconvenient is’nt it?? Considering the fact that one of these players father is a Mosque caretaker!
Look at you!
“Now, we Hindus don’t believe that all “Muslims” follow all Islamic tenets. All Hindus don’t follow all Hindu tenets, nor do all Christians follow all Christian beliefs. There’s this fine gentleman by the name of Kalam, ex-President. Does he believe that “Muslims” are one nation transcending territorial loyalties? Of course not. He spent a good part of his life building weaponry to deter Pakistan’s genocidal intentions.”
- You just cut your ideological leg…and I am so glad you did. There is some sense in you after all. I have argued against the Title and idiot generalized comments against Muslims.
Kumar; Fyi…even the BJP likes to be called “secular”…remember, they accuse others of not being properly “secular”.
On 09.29.07 Kumar says:
Kumar; Fyi…even the BJP likes to be called “secular”…remember, they accuse others of not being properly “secular”.
Yeah.. issues like the rights of people like Shah Bano and Imraan are too important to be left to card-carrying seculars.
On 09.29.07 Harish Duggirala says:
“Mr.Duggirala….stay on in Canada till such time as they tolerate you there. When they decide they’ve had enough of your brown skin…come back to India and call me on my number posted on the blog.”
ya i will but u make sure u bring a whole suitcase full of clothes cuz who knws how many times u might wet ur pants on the way.
lol goras, they don’t pick on me cuz they knw they will get a beating but they do pik on inferiority complez ridden coolies like u though.
On 09.29.07 Harish Duggirala says:
It’s obvious what’s wrong with Halli, he has a paralysing fear of Mustafa & he thinks by attacking Hindus he can appease Mustafa in his deluded mind, that is why he is always claiming that Muslims are one monolithic entity, if he doesn’t he fears Mustafa will show up at his doorstep & shove a broomstick up his arse for blasphemy, I can totally understand his fear & that is why i am recommending he join therapy before he ends up in a nuthouse permanently along with Balaji.
On 09.30.07 Palahalli says:
Kumar - “Yeah.. issues like the rights of people like Shah Bano and Imraan are too important to be left to card-carrying seculars.” - Sure and I agree.I don’t trust the BJP with such things too. What is their credibility?
Now, can I expect some response on my point about Kalam and the players please?
Harish - Irrelevance leads to oblivion. Get out of the muck you’ve dug yourself into.
On 09.30.07 Kumar says:
Kumar - “Yeah.. issues like the rights of people like Shah Bano and Imraan are too important to be left to card-carrying seculars.” - Sure and I agree.I don’t trust the BJP with such things too.
So tell me which political party supported either Shah Bano and/or Imraana?
On 09.30.07 Palahalli says:
Kumar : I have said this before. You are not a kid…neither should you take me to be one.
The BJP will oppose anything the Congress does of course. Just look at its flip flop in the 123 Deal!
Question is, what remedial action did they take in six years of power? That is where the cookie crumbles.
Least anybody forgets….it was Arif Mohammed Khan…who resigned on the floor of the house, on the Shah Bano issue.
So, what about Kalam and the Muslim players?
On 09.30.07 Kumar says:
Least anybody forgets….it was Arif Mohammed Khan…who resigned on the floor of the house, on the Shah Bano issue.
Good that you remember as to how he was secular in Congress and overnight became communal by joining BJP.
Still waiting on names of parties who took up the cudgel for Shah Bano or Imraana.
On 09.30.07 Palahalli says:
Kumar…
Arif’s views on why he joined the BJP - http://www.milligazette.com/Archives/2004/16-31Mar04-Print-Edition/1603200438.htm
“Still waiting on names of parties who took up the cudgel for Shah Bano or Imraana.”
- Would you believe…the Communists?…
You may say..The BJP fought for them too! And I won’t object. The more the merrier.
Imrana - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1157089,prtpage-1.cms
Shah Bano - http://www.milligazette.com/Archives/15032002/1503200234.htm
So, what about Kalam and the Muslim players?
On 10.01.07 Kumar says:
Palahalli:
Seculars are washing their hands off saying it’s a “social problem”
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/75-yr-old_hounds_child_bride_in_Malda_/articleshow/2417638.cms
On 10.01.07 Palahalli says:
Kumar; Is the above a response to my post #36?
In any case, workers on the ground behave variously. It would be interesting to find out what the official position is.
I could ask if all BJP/Sangh workers react progressively on the ground.I know quite a few don’t.
Kalam and Muslim players please…your opinion on them being Muslims.
On 10.01.07 Ot says:
Comrade,
>>You and your fellows become blind when your kind accuse ALL Muslims of being retrograde and medieval.Show me where you have argued against such bigotry!
Nice try.
Show me where have you accused the bigotry that this particular blog entry talks about — the bigotry that attacks Indians celebrating an Indian victory?
Your complete silence on this matter, and your desperation to divert attention away from this subject using that familiar bait, branding your critics as “anti-Muslim”, seem to suggest you are in agreement with such attacks.
>>There is some sense in you after all.
Why, thank you for the kind words. But sorry can’t reciprocate because I see no sense in you at all, only prejudice.
On 10.01.07 Harish Duggirala says:
“Harish - Irrelevance leads to oblivion. Get out of the muck you’ve dug yourself into.”
Halli sort out our own mental problems mate before you advice others, that you have problems is obvious or else by now you would have answered my question of why you use Muslims instead of “Muslims”.
On 10.01.07 Palahalli says:
Ot: I thought you were more perceptive than that.
When I argue against generalized anti-Muslim bigotry, it only means that I agree that there are criminal elements within the same community. Please refer #20.
Now, would you like to answer the question i’ve been asking Kumar?
On 10.01.07 Kumar says:
Palahalli:
In any case, workers on the ground behave variously. It would be interesting to find out what the official position is.
I’m not waiting for Comrade Hu to make some official announcements.
I could ask if all BJP/Sangh workers react progressively on the ground.I know quite a few don’t.
Who exactly? Are you in touch with ‘official’ leadership of BJP/Sangh? Or workers on ground?
Kalam and Muslim players please…your opinion on them being Muslims
What about it? I respect and admire their services to the nation? Is there much to disect here?
On 10.01.07 Palahalli says:
Kumar :
“I’m not waiting for Comrade Hu to make some official announcements.”
- Was it Hu that the BJP was acknowledging in one of those links?
“Who exactly? Are you in touch with ‘official’ leadership of BJP/Sangh? Or workers on ground?”
- I keep in touch. I was one of them…remember? But tell me…have you ever worked for the VHP/BJP/RSS?
“What about it? I respect and admire their services to the nation? Is there much to disect here?”
- This is much appreciated. But is this goodwill extended to All Muslims? We have seen it is not. So, can we use this logic to brand criminals as “criminals” and not extend the crime to an entire community?
Btw..I agree that we should admire irrespective of anyone’s religion. We should punish likewise.
On 10.01.07 Kumar says:
Was it Hu that the BJP was acknowledging in one of those links
I was referring to this by CPI:
And local CPM leaders — from district secretary Jiban Maitra to minister for minority welfare Abdus Sattar — have washed their hands of the matter, saying it’s a “social problem” and can be solved only by “social awakening”.
So the question was: Are the secular CPM waiting for orders waiting from orders from Hu to move on this and fix the issue?
This is much appreciated. But is this goodwill extended to All Muslims?
Why not? Do you see me anywhere stating otherwise?
I keep in touch. I was one of them…remember?
I don’t remember you mentioning this anywhere.
But tell me…have you ever worked for the VHP/BJP/RSS?
No. I don’t.
On 10.01.07 Palahalli says:
Kumar : Yeah..I expected some such nonesense about “social problem” and “awakening”. But the fact is, the Communists have a better record wrt these issues than say, the Congress. But, politics gets inbetween! Same is true with the RSS, though not the BJP or the VHP…latter, which is now, pure lumpen.
And yes…I have been very closely associated with the Sangh. I have mentioned it in some other thread on the blog.
Thank you for your responses to my posts. I think we’re done, unless of course Ot and the “Roach” have other plans.
On 10.01.07 Harish Duggirala says:
Halli you loser, answer my question first, which by the way I have asked many times by now.
On 10.01.07 Palahalli says:
See?? I knew it! Never a moment of peace
Duggi….search this blog; you’ll find others have asked me the same question and I have responded to them.