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		<title>By: Shuvro Aikath</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2008/01/09/cricket-and-molestation/#comment-218827</link>
		<dc:creator>Shuvro Aikath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 01:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; providing link to dcubed’s barf 
 &#62; poach your commentators
 &#62; Views on this blog got no “honor” in his skewed opinion? 

you question kind of answers itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; providing link to dcubed’s barf<br />
 &gt; poach your commentators<br />
 &gt; Views on this blog got no “honor” in his skewed opinion? </p>
<p>you question kind of answers itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Kumar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandeep, please note that in addition to providing link to dcubed's barf, you now provide an opportunity for him to poach your commentators. I mean, why's he "honoured to exchange views" on his blog? 
Views on this blog got no "honor" in his skewed opinion? Or he can't stand the heat? 

As I read all comments again on this thread, that &lt;i&gt;"someone stood up for you in the middle of lots of other attacks"&lt;/i&gt; seems to be standing up for dcubed the way Musharraf's been standing up to Benazir. Close, but no cigar ((unless you take Monica's point of view on same)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandeep, please note that in addition to providing link to dcubed&#8217;s barf, you now provide an opportunity for him to poach your commentators. I mean, why&#8217;s he &#8220;honoured to exchange views&#8221; on his blog?<br />
Views on this blog got no &#8220;honor&#8221; in his skewed opinion? Or he can&#8217;t stand the heat? </p>
<p>As I read all comments again on this thread, that <i>&#8220;someone stood up for you in the middle of lots of other attacks&#8221;</i> seems to be standing up for dcubed the way Musharraf&#8217;s been standing up to Benazir. Close, but no cigar ((unless you take Monica&#8217;s point of view on same)</p>
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		<title>By: Kumar</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2008/01/09/cricket-and-molestation/#comment-218764</link>
		<dc:creator>Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome back dorky D. 
Oh my god, you are the victim here aren't you? Tsk, tsk.
Sooooooooooo baaaaaaaaaaaaadddddd. 
Sooooooooooo saaaaaaaaaaaaadddddd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back dorky D.<br />
Oh my god, you are the victim here aren&#8217;t you? Tsk, tsk.<br />
Sooooooooooo baaaaaaaaaaaaadddddd.<br />
Sooooooooooo saaaaaaaaaaaaadddddd.</p>
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		<title>By: Ot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 06:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the same day that the reported molestation occurred, there was another attempt at molestation in Delhi. Unluckily for the harassers however, they were resisted and thrashed by the victims' friends. This is not an incident that is talked much about, not by the media, not least by Comrade DD, because the horny aggressors were a couple of budding secularists answering to the names of Tarun and Tejpal, sons of India's Chief Secularist, Lalu Prasad Yadav.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the same day that the reported molestation occurred, there was another attempt at molestation in Delhi. Unluckily for the harassers however, they were resisted and thrashed by the victims&#8217; friends. This is not an incident that is talked much about, not by the media, not least by Comrade DD, because the horny aggressors were a couple of budding secularists answering to the names of Tarun and Tejpal, sons of India&#8217;s Chief Secularist, Lalu Prasad Yadav.</p>
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		<title>By: Dilip D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dilip D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't read this blog, but I got a message from a friend I'd like to quote:

"&lt;i&gt;I know you don't read sandeepweb, but you've got to visit and read this one comment that's just appeared. There is actually someone stood up for you in the middle of lots of other attacks.&lt;/i&gt;" [Thank you, RC]

So I'd like to say, thank you, kaangeya. What I see on this page is insinuation and malice, and in the middle of that, I am sincerely grateful that you took the time to, yes, stand up for me. I believe that's the way to some degree of dialogue and understanding, even if we have differences, instead of two sides throwing abuse at each other.

If you send me a note, I'd be honoured to exchange views with you. Please leave your email address on my blog, and I will write.

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t read this blog, but I got a message from a friend I&#8217;d like to quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>I know you don&#8217;t read sandeepweb, but you&#8217;ve got to visit and read this one comment that&#8217;s just appeared. There is actually someone stood up for you in the middle of lots of other attacks.</i>&#8221; [Thank you, RC]</p>
<p>So I&#8217;d like to say, thank you, kaangeya. What I see on this page is insinuation and malice, and in the middle of that, I am sincerely grateful that you took the time to, yes, stand up for me. I believe that&#8217;s the way to some degree of dialogue and understanding, even if we have differences, instead of two sides throwing abuse at each other.</p>
<p>If you send me a note, I&#8217;d be honoured to exchange views with you. Please leave your email address on my blog, and I will write.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Kumar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Socal, 

Consider this, nothing hypothetical about this:
a) Tehelka publishes a 'sting' of events going back 5 years.
b) Around that time, a lady of 'oppressed class' dragged naked on streets of Assam by CPI comrade.


Guess which one caught dcubed's attention? Sorry, no prizes for the right answer here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Socal, </p>
<p>Consider this, nothing hypothetical about this:<br />
a) Tehelka publishes a &#8217;sting&#8217; of events going back 5 years.<br />
b) Around that time, a lady of &#8216;oppressed class&#8217; dragged naked on streets of Assam by CPI comrade.</p>
<p>Guess which one caught dcubed&#8217;s attention? Sorry, no prizes for the right answer here.</p>
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		<title>By: kaangeya</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaangeya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Socal,

That's hypothetical and doesn't lead us anywhere.  Dilip does not equivocate re terrorism.  He is also not of the romantic left that idolises poverty.  Although he commends Sainath (poverty porn peddler) he doesn't share the latter's enthusiasm for jackbooted thugs like Fidel Castro. Mao, and Chavez.  Where Dilip loses the plot is the big picture.  In this he is no better than Sainath, although honest.  In a country where the state and the social services sector are one and the same, and where for over 50 years no one has taken a long and hard look at how services are delivered, neitehr has Dilip nor will Sainath ever lay the blame where it is due - at the doorstep of the predatory state.  In every state (and the center) the public sector and government employees form a humungous vote bank that politicians do not ignore.  Jaya in TN lost a chunk of their vote in 2004 and 2005 after she tried to bring them to heel in 2003.  PK Dhumal lost to VB Singh in HP after he tried to discipline them and get the entire lot to put in an honest day's work five years ago in HP.  Lalloo, Mayavati (and earlier Kanshi Ram) have built up their vote bank from the government employees sector.  The first politician to have disciplined these fat cats is Modi in Gujarat.  The Congress  wooed this group long and hard this time, but it doesn't seem to have worked anywhere except Gandhinagar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Socal,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s hypothetical and doesn&#8217;t lead us anywhere.  Dilip does not equivocate re terrorism.  He is also not of the romantic left that idolises poverty.  Although he commends Sainath (poverty porn peddler) he doesn&#8217;t share the latter&#8217;s enthusiasm for jackbooted thugs like Fidel Castro. Mao, and Chavez.  Where Dilip loses the plot is the big picture.  In this he is no better than Sainath, although honest.  In a country where the state and the social services sector are one and the same, and where for over 50 years no one has taken a long and hard look at how services are delivered, neitehr has Dilip nor will Sainath ever lay the blame where it is due - at the doorstep of the predatory state.  In every state (and the center) the public sector and government employees form a humungous vote bank that politicians do not ignore.  Jaya in TN lost a chunk of their vote in 2004 and 2005 after she tried to bring them to heel in 2003.  PK Dhumal lost to VB Singh in HP after he tried to discipline them and get the entire lot to put in an honest day&#8217;s work five years ago in HP.  Lalloo, Mayavati (and earlier Kanshi Ram) have built up their vote bank from the government employees sector.  The first politician to have disciplined these fat cats is Modi in Gujarat.  The Congress  wooed this group long and hard this time, but it doesn&#8217;t seem to have worked anywhere except Gandhinagar.</p>
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		<title>By: socal</title>
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		<dc:creator>socal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing hit "uncomfortably close to home." Consider a hypothetical scenario: Say Modi had lost 2007 elections in Gujarat. During the same week there must have been any of these random events: a farmer's suicide, a women raped/groped/molested, few soldiers killed by terrorists in Kashmir etc., you get the point. Would dcubed and secular types have considered nation's honor restored because of Modi defeat or witheld their celebrations due to any of the above sad but random events? 

Consider vice-versa and ask similar question. That is Modi won the election (secular national honor trampled), and some propitious secular events: Sultry secularist winning harmony award, construction of dam cancelled somewhere, few terrorists freed due to intervention of Twista and Kuldeep etc.(secular national honor elevated). Did dcubed and secularists feel happy despite many other events going in their favor except Modi's victory?

That's why the invokation "pervert mind."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing hit &#8220;uncomfortably close to home.&#8221; Consider a hypothetical scenario: Say Modi had lost 2007 elections in Gujarat. During the same week there must have been any of these random events: a farmer&#8217;s suicide, a women raped/groped/molested, few soldiers killed by terrorists in Kashmir etc., you get the point. Would dcubed and secular types have considered nation&#8217;s honor restored because of Modi defeat or witheld their celebrations due to any of the above sad but random events? </p>
<p>Consider vice-versa and ask similar question. That is Modi won the election (secular national honor trampled), and some propitious secular events: Sultry secularist winning harmony award, construction of dam cancelled somewhere, few terrorists freed due to intervention of Twista and Kuldeep etc.(secular national honor elevated). Did dcubed and secularists feel happy despite many other events going in their favor except Modi&#8217;s victory?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why the invokation &#8220;pervert mind.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kaangeya</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaangeya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandeep,

Kshamsi, wrong thread to post this.  But I suggest we get started on our first 'serious' discussion, something I suggested a while ago.  

Here's an article by Prof.DN Jha
http://www.sacw.net/India_History/dnj_Jan06.pdf Looking for a Hindu Identity
By D N Jha [Presentation at the 66th Indian History Congress, Shantiniketan, January 28, 2006]

One way of going abbout our discussion could be as follows.

Anyone who wants comment on the article reads thru it (it is a little weighty at 47 pp. although footnotes account for about half of that) and then chooses one, just one, factor or issue or question concerning the article to hold forth upon.  It could be the author's use of terms - defined and undefined, or the quality of references (their topicality, relevance etc.) historicity, and so on.  Questions regarding the author's motives or politics are to be avoided excepting where the poster can show how these influence the author's line of thought.  Logical inconsistencies etc., are all fair game.  And obviously shorter the post, the better.  Sandeep as the webmaster has the first and last say on what gets posted here, needless to say.  Posters could read throught the article and mull over it for a week-10 dyas before we rush in with our comments.  Sandeep'avare would you be so kind as to share your bandwidth for this exercise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandeep,</p>
<p>Kshamsi, wrong thread to post this.  But I suggest we get started on our first &#8217;serious&#8217; discussion, something I suggested a while ago.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an article by Prof.DN Jha<br />
<a href="http://www.sacw.net/India_History/dnj_Jan06.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.sacw.net/India_History/dnj_Jan06.pdf</a> Looking for a Hindu Identity<br />
By D N Jha [Presentation at the 66th Indian History Congress, Shantiniketan, January 28, 2006]</p>
<p>One way of going abbout our discussion could be as follows.</p>
<p>Anyone who wants comment on the article reads thru it (it is a little weighty at 47 pp. although footnotes account for about half of that) and then chooses one, just one, factor or issue or question concerning the article to hold forth upon.  It could be the author&#8217;s use of terms - defined and undefined, or the quality of references (their topicality, relevance etc.) historicity, and so on.  Questions regarding the author&#8217;s motives or politics are to be avoided excepting where the poster can show how these influence the author&#8217;s line of thought.  Logical inconsistencies etc., are all fair game.  And obviously shorter the post, the better.  Sandeep as the webmaster has the first and last say on what gets posted here, needless to say.  Posters could read throught the article and mull over it for a week-10 dyas before we rush in with our comments.  Sandeep&#8217;avare would you be so kind as to share your bandwidth for this exercise?</p>
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		<title>By: Kumar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kishkindhaa: I think you are mixing Dinesh with Dilip. Two different entities, yeah, entity is a right words for these fellows. If one were to compare them, I'd say that Dilip can only dream of achieving a fraction of what Dinesh's achieved. Heck, Dinesh got President Reagan to hire him while Dilip's still working for crumbs that Rediff or Tehelka or Outlook throws his way. 

Though it should be noted that the moolaha piled up by his dad during his days as government babbiu should help him afford a luxurious lifestyle. One shouldn't miss the his travel adventures to exotic places to understand how wall signs or menus are printed in incorrect angrezi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kishkindhaa: I think you are mixing Dinesh with Dilip. Two different entities, yeah, entity is a right words for these fellows. If one were to compare them, I&#8217;d say that Dilip can only dream of achieving a fraction of what Dinesh&#8217;s achieved. Heck, Dinesh got President Reagan to hire him while Dilip&#8217;s still working for crumbs that Rediff or Tehelka or Outlook throws his way. </p>
<p>Though it should be noted that the moolaha piled up by his dad during his days as government babbiu should help him afford a luxurious lifestyle. One shouldn&#8217;t miss the his travel adventures to exotic places to understand how wall signs or menus are printed in incorrect angrezi.</p>
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