We must hand it to Dilip D’Souza. It takes only a particular genius of perversion to come up with this kind of comparison. Ordinary mortals lack this talent (pasted the full post here).
Of two recent incidents — women molested in Juhu on New Year’s Day, Sydney Test mess — which one stimulated more press coverage? More public effigy-burning? More angry pronouncements about Indian self-respect, about an insult to national honour?
If you have any idea, please let me know.
I am awed.
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>>If you have any idea, please let me know.
Funny that the good comrade doesn’t know. Most everybody, including street urchins do.
Of course the cricket issue got “more public effigy-burning”, and “more angry pronouncements about Indian self-respect, about an insult to national honour”.
But why does he ask, I wonder. Does he think the other issue must have gotten more public effigy burning and more angry pronouncements about self-respect, national honor etc? Why?
> It takes only a particular genius of perversion to come
> up with this kind of comparison. Ordinary mortals lack
> this talent
something hit uncomfrtably close to home, sandeep?
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Egad Sandeep!
Every well-heeled sophisticate, charming communist, pindignant pseudosecular (the “p” is silent in both words, according to the world-wide web-sters dictionary) knows that any women molested in India deserve *national* outrage and effigy-burning. Especially when assorted effigies are lying all ready and raring to go, waiting for the kerosene and matchstick.
Where *did* you learn your civilization, Sandeep? Certainly not at Jawaharlal Nehru University, where the Great Ones go to get tutored and mentored, I bet. The constant haranguing of stalwarts like Romilla Thapar, Teesta Setalwad, Arundhati Roy, Brinda Karat etc. has now become a nationwide sport, thanks to people like you. Harrumph!
If it wasn’t for those occasional links that you (Sandeep) and people like BarbarIndian et al provide to pathetic blog, it would have died and long long ago.
But then death destroys fun no?
don’t worry. dinesh has been replaced by michelle malkin, the next generation of sepoy.
Please do not abuse me for asking this question. What is all the hooplah about molestation in Mumbai? I, miserably, fail to understand why a nation should be held at ransom when few women, probably drunk, probably not, were amidst a drunken crowd having a reverlers party. Now the photgraphers found an opportunity and have encashed it. I have never been to discos but I am told of the happenings there. So what’s the big deal.
I once again seek your pardon if I may have sounded like an iconoclast with no sensitivity to women’s/men’s right to drink and party at New Years’ eve.
I do not know if this wouldn’t have happened anywhere in similar circumstances.
Of course I condemn it but media driven investigation and subsequent apprehension eh…. ??? that was a little too much.
I recollect at the same day and same time in UP there were 8 CRPF jawans killed by our (un)friendly neighbhourhood jihadis were quickly forgotten because the perpetrators shouldn’t be bothered as it is their birth right in Congress ruled India.
Kishkindhaa: I think you are mixing Dinesh with Dilip. Two different entities, yeah, entity is a right words for these fellows. If one were to compare them, I’d say that Dilip can only dream of achieving a fraction of what Dinesh’s achieved. Heck, Dinesh got President Reagan to hire him while Dilip’s still working for crumbs that Rediff or Tehelka or Outlook throws his way.
Though it should be noted that the moolaha piled up by his dad during his days as government babbiu should help him afford a luxurious lifestyle. One shouldn’t miss the his travel adventures to exotic places to understand how wall signs or menus are printed in incorrect angrezi.
Sandeep,
Kshamsi, wrong thread to post this. But I suggest we get started on our first ’serious’ discussion, something I suggested a while ago.
Here’s an article by Prof.DN Jha
http://www.sacw.net/India_History/dnj_Jan06.pdf Looking for a Hindu Identity
By D N Jha [Presentation at the 66th Indian History Congress, Shantiniketan, January 28, 2006]
One way of going abbout our discussion could be as follows.
Anyone who wants comment on the article reads thru it (it is a little weighty at 47 pp. although footnotes account for about half of that) and then chooses one, just one, factor or issue or question concerning the article to hold forth upon. It could be the author’s use of terms - defined and undefined, or the quality of references (their topicality, relevance etc.) historicity, and so on. Questions regarding the author’s motives or politics are to be avoided excepting where the poster can show how these influence the author’s line of thought. Logical inconsistencies etc., are all fair game. And obviously shorter the post, the better. Sandeep as the webmaster has the first and last say on what gets posted here, needless to say. Posters could read throught the article and mull over it for a week-10 dyas before we rush in with our comments. Sandeep’avare would you be so kind as to share your bandwidth for this exercise?
Nothing hit “uncomfortably close to home.” Consider a hypothetical scenario: Say Modi had lost 2007 elections in Gujarat. During the same week there must have been any of these random events: a farmer’s suicide, a women raped/groped/molested, few soldiers killed by terrorists in Kashmir etc., you get the point. Would dcubed and secular types have considered nation’s honor restored because of Modi defeat or witheld their celebrations due to any of the above sad but random events?
Consider vice-versa and ask similar question. That is Modi won the election (secular national honor trampled), and some propitious secular events: Sultry secularist winning harmony award, construction of dam cancelled somewhere, few terrorists freed due to intervention of Twista and Kuldeep etc.(secular national honor elevated). Did dcubed and secularists feel happy despite many other events going in their favor except Modi’s victory?
That’s why the invokation “pervert mind.”
Socal,
That’s hypothetical and doesn’t lead us anywhere. Dilip does not equivocate re terrorism. He is also not of the romantic left that idolises poverty. Although he commends Sainath (poverty porn peddler) he doesn’t share the latter’s enthusiasm for jackbooted thugs like Fidel Castro. Mao, and Chavez. Where Dilip loses the plot is the big picture. In this he is no better than Sainath, although honest. In a country where the state and the social services sector are one and the same, and where for over 50 years no one has taken a long and hard look at how services are delivered, neitehr has Dilip nor will Sainath ever lay the blame where it is due - at the doorstep of the predatory state. In every state (and the center) the public sector and government employees form a humungous vote bank that politicians do not ignore. Jaya in TN lost a chunk of their vote in 2004 and 2005 after she tried to bring them to heel in 2003. PK Dhumal lost to VB Singh in HP after he tried to discipline them and get the entire lot to put in an honest day’s work five years ago in HP. Lalloo, Mayavati (and earlier Kanshi Ram) have built up their vote bank from the government employees sector. The first politician to have disciplined these fat cats is Modi in Gujarat. The Congress wooed this group long and hard this time, but it doesn’t seem to have worked anywhere except Gandhinagar.
Socal,
Consider this, nothing hypothetical about this:
a) Tehelka publishes a ’sting’ of events going back 5 years.
b) Around that time, a lady of ‘oppressed class’ dragged naked on streets of Assam by CPI comrade.
Guess which one caught dcubed’s attention? Sorry, no prizes for the right answer here.
I don’t read this blog, but I got a message from a friend I’d like to quote:
“I know you don’t read sandeepweb, but you’ve got to visit and read this one comment that’s just appeared. There is actually someone stood up for you in the middle of lots of other attacks.” [Thank you, RC]
So I’d like to say, thank you, kaangeya. What I see on this page is insinuation and malice, and in the middle of that, I am sincerely grateful that you took the time to, yes, stand up for me. I believe that’s the way to some degree of dialogue and understanding, even if we have differences, instead of two sides throwing abuse at each other.
If you send me a note, I’d be honoured to exchange views with you. Please leave your email address on my blog, and I will write.
Thanks again.
On the same day that the reported molestation occurred, there was another attempt at molestation in Delhi. Unluckily for the harassers however, they were resisted and thrashed by the victims’ friends. This is not an incident that is talked much about, not by the media, not least by Comrade DD, because the horny aggressors were a couple of budding secularists answering to the names of Tarun and Tejpal, sons of India’s Chief Secularist, Lalu Prasad Yadav.
Welcome back dorky D.
Oh my god, you are the victim here aren’t you? Tsk, tsk.
Sooooooooooo baaaaaaaaaaaaadddddd.
Sooooooooooo saaaaaaaaaaaaadddddd.
Sandeep, please note that in addition to providing link to dcubed’s barf, you now provide an opportunity for him to poach your commentators. I mean, why’s he “honoured to exchange views” on his blog?
Views on this blog got no “honor” in his skewed opinion? Or he can’t stand the heat?
As I read all comments again on this thread, that “someone stood up for you in the middle of lots of other attacks” seems to be standing up for dcubed the way Musharraf’s been standing up to Benazir. Close, but no cigar ((unless you take Monica’s point of view on same)
> providing link to dcubed’s barf
> poach your commentators
> Views on this blog got no “honor” in his skewed opinion?
you question kind of answers itself.