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		<title>By: vishal</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2008/01/14/media-irresponsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-340619</link>
		<dc:creator>vishal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is no point waging a online war on different fronts... i see all pro hindu sites popping up managed by a couple of guys here and there but we need a concerted errort...

why cant we hindus start a anti iliah campaign and create a website where we can debunk his shit. he talks non sense though all the time but nobody is showing light to him... 

may god bless his poor soul.. he is such a non deserving person to be heading an educational institue... congress rocks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is no point waging a online war on different fronts&#8230; i see all pro hindu sites popping up managed by a couple of guys here and there but we need a concerted errort&#8230;</p>
<p>why cant we hindus start a anti iliah campaign and create a website where we can debunk his shit. he talks non sense though all the time but nobody is showing light to him&#8230; </p>
<p>may god bless his poor soul.. he is such a non deserving person to be heading an educational institue&#8230; congress rocks</p>
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		<title>By: prasad popuri</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2008/01/14/media-irresponsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-232908</link>
		<dc:creator>prasad popuri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.most of the converts to other religions from Hinduism are from so called sudras(present day back ward castes) and panchams (present day dalits.Besides other reasons, ill treatment and sub-human   treatment led to conversions. 
2.Even now no efforts are made by Hindus to increase their  co-religionists by preventing conversions  and convert non-Hindus to Hinduism.3.Hinduism as presently understood is only a way of life not an organised religion.4.Little  charity work is done even by rich   Hindus. 5.No religion can grow unless the poor among   the followers are assured of protection and financial  improvement.6.A lot of reforms are needed in temple administration in Hinduism. The post of Purohits  or pundits should be open to all castes. The darshan  should be free and equal treatment shall be given to all  devotees irrespective of social standing. The temple administration shall be in the hands of majority -backward castes and scheduled castes. Hinduism has  survived because of backward castes and schedule castes.
7. Contrary to popular belief, Mr. Lalu prasad and Mr.Mulayam Singh are better practing Hindus than  upper caste Hindu leaders of BJP or RSS. Bjp or Rss if really interested in Hinduism shall handover leadership to   backwards and SCs.Sooner the better.In future, BJP shall not hesitate to support an Yadav or some backward caste person for PM&#039;s post if occasion arises.8. Hinduism will survive inspite of its ills due to its nature. It is  a way of life.There are no hard and fast rules. But caste  remains its main hurdle from becoming the most egalitarian religion of all times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.most of the converts to other religions from Hinduism are from so called sudras(present day back ward castes) and panchams (present day dalits.Besides other reasons, ill treatment and sub-human   treatment led to conversions.<br />
2.Even now no efforts are made by Hindus to increase their  co-religionists by preventing conversions  and convert non-Hindus to Hinduism.3.Hinduism as presently understood is only a way of life not an organised religion.4.Little  charity work is done even by rich   Hindus. 5.No religion can grow unless the poor among   the followers are assured of protection and financial  improvement.6.A lot of reforms are needed in temple administration in Hinduism. The post of Purohits  or pundits should be open to all castes. The darshan  should be free and equal treatment shall be given to all  devotees irrespective of social standing. The temple administration shall be in the hands of majority -backward castes and scheduled castes. Hinduism has  survived because of backward castes and schedule castes.<br />
7. Contrary to popular belief, Mr. Lalu prasad and Mr.Mulayam Singh are better practing Hindus than  upper caste Hindu leaders of BJP or RSS. Bjp or Rss if really interested in Hinduism shall handover leadership to   backwards and SCs.Sooner the better.In future, BJP shall not hesitate to support an Yadav or some backward caste person for PM&#8217;s post if occasion arises.8. Hinduism will survive inspite of its ills due to its nature. It is  a way of life.There are no hard and fast rules. But caste  remains its main hurdle from becoming the most egalitarian religion of all times.</p>
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		<title>By: Gujjubhai</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2008/01/14/media-irresponsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-220404</link>
		<dc:creator>Gujjubhai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chakravarty, 

Most of the Hindu action is defensive in nature. Of course, defensive action is absolutely necessary and I do respect the contributions of people such as Swami Ramdev very much. 

Unfortunately, the net result is still in favour of the evangelicals. Their numbers are increasing. They are devising more and more clever ways of converting people. They are very smart at using the media. Their institutions are growing stronger. A lot of laws such as the Orissa anti-conversion bill or regulation of foreign missionary activities are not effective in checking their growth. 

As Swami Vivekananda said, every convert out of Hinduism becomes an enemy of Hinduism. Notice how many of these anti-Hindu types are foremer Hindus themselves who have been brainwashed by missionary propaganda or education. What we must do is retaliate in kind, take over the media and education, and start converting Muslims and Christians into Hinduism. Re-conversion programs of the VHP are still defensive in nature, they are just trying to bring back recent converts. That&#039;s not enough, we need to do more. 

So, to sum up, while people like Asaram Bapu are helping Hindus stay within the fold of Hinduism, what we don&#039;t have is any way of countering their attack and converting Christians or Muslims into Hinduism or a strategy to turn the media to our side. That is very dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chakravarty, </p>
<p>Most of the Hindu action is defensive in nature. Of course, defensive action is absolutely necessary and I do respect the contributions of people such as Swami Ramdev very much. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, the net result is still in favour of the evangelicals. Their numbers are increasing. They are devising more and more clever ways of converting people. They are very smart at using the media. Their institutions are growing stronger. A lot of laws such as the Orissa anti-conversion bill or regulation of foreign missionary activities are not effective in checking their growth. </p>
<p>As Swami Vivekananda said, every convert out of Hinduism becomes an enemy of Hinduism. Notice how many of these anti-Hindu types are foremer Hindus themselves who have been brainwashed by missionary propaganda or education. What we must do is retaliate in kind, take over the media and education, and start converting Muslims and Christians into Hinduism. Re-conversion programs of the VHP are still defensive in nature, they are just trying to bring back recent converts. That&#8217;s not enough, we need to do more. </p>
<p>So, to sum up, while people like Asaram Bapu are helping Hindus stay within the fold of Hinduism, what we don&#8217;t have is any way of countering their attack and converting Christians or Muslims into Hinduism or a strategy to turn the media to our side. That is very dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: socal</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2008/01/14/media-irresponsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-220392</link>
		<dc:creator>socal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;vicious comment quoted in a article. what to say about it? about same as vicious comments on this site. people say ugly things in emailor comments.&quot;

Fine. That&#039;s a matter of individual choice. I am more interested in knowing as to why you call it unreal, since by all evidence those are real people with real world opinions. The language used is not unreal either. 

The other one is with your dismissive sneer- &#039;joke.&#039; I hear people calling for contributing, volunteering, speaking up for various causes in their own capacity, to whatever extent possible. Could you tell me when such contribution ceases to be serious and becomes a &#039;joke&#039;? 

Again, same thing about the &#039;battle&#039; cry. It&#039;s a contribution as an individual, hence &quot;our battle.&quot; In war of ideas every little contribution matters. Extent, style, substance may vary. Why then such snickering over it? What in your opinion are the acceptable ways to fight such battle, if you accept that there is such a battle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;vicious comment quoted in a article. what to say about it? about same as vicious comments on this site. people say ugly things in emailor comments.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fine. That&#8217;s a matter of individual choice. I am more interested in knowing as to why you call it unreal, since by all evidence those are real people with real world opinions. The language used is not unreal either. </p>
<p>The other one is with your dismissive sneer- &#8216;joke.&#8217; I hear people calling for contributing, volunteering, speaking up for various causes in their own capacity, to whatever extent possible. Could you tell me when such contribution ceases to be serious and becomes a &#8216;joke&#8217;? </p>
<p>Again, same thing about the &#8216;battle&#8217; cry. It&#8217;s a contribution as an individual, hence &#8220;our battle.&#8221; In war of ideas every little contribution matters. Extent, style, substance may vary. Why then such snickering over it? What in your opinion are the acceptable ways to fight such battle, if you accept that there is such a battle?</p>
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		<title>By: Ashish</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2008/01/14/media-irresponsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-220363</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shuvro: I need to seek your sought-after blessings. I am trying my best to promote the truth about Islam and Xtianity by telling people about sites like 

jesusneverexisted.com
caesarsmessiah.com
christianaggression.org
faithfreedom.org

I hope you will grant success to my non-real world, useless work...  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shuvro: I need to seek your sought-after blessings. I am trying my best to promote the truth about Islam and Xtianity by telling people about sites like </p>
<p>jesusneverexisted.com<br />
caesarsmessiah.com<br />
christianaggression.org<br />
faithfreedom.org</p>
<p>I hope you will grant success to my non-real world, useless work&#8230;  <img src='http://www.sandeepweb.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chakravarty</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2008/01/14/media-irresponsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-220259</link>
		<dc:creator>Chakravarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Expect the Hindu-hating Indian ELM to go gaga over this book. Expect your the Christian teachersâ€™ at your kidsâ€™ convent schools recommending this book as a â€œscholarly critiqueâ€ of Hinduism. Expect American TV, editorials, and their lapdogs working in evangelical ministries all over India to keep hammering in this book.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Gujjubhai,
The situation is not that hopeless. People like Kancha Illiah are mere pawns. People much more capable than Kancha have launched more vicious attacks on Hinduism and they have been countered. Hindus can handle Iliah, Rajshekhar and their ilk, his BS stinks from a mile. 

Consider this:
Who has more impact : 
Kancha &quot;buffalo nationalist&quot; Illiah for Swami Ramdev?
Kancha &quot;buffalo nationalist&quot; Illiah or Asaram Bapu?

There are a few things every Hindu can do which will take the wind out of the sails of the evangelical lobby:
1. Donate 5% of your salary to Hindu charities of your choice.
2. Fund Ekal Vidyalayas and VOLUNTEER for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Expect the Hindu-hating Indian ELM to go gaga over this book. Expect your the Christian teachersâ€™ at your kidsâ€™ convent schools recommending this book as a â€œscholarly critiqueâ€ of Hinduism. Expect American TV, editorials, and their lapdogs working in evangelical ministries all over India to keep hammering in this book.
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<p>Gujjubhai,<br />
The situation is not that hopeless. People like Kancha Illiah are mere pawns. People much more capable than Kancha have launched more vicious attacks on Hinduism and they have been countered. Hindus can handle Iliah, Rajshekhar and their ilk, his BS stinks from a mile. </p>
<p>Consider this:<br />
Who has more impact :<br />
Kancha &#8220;buffalo nationalist&#8221; Illiah for Swami Ramdev?<br />
Kancha &#8220;buffalo nationalist&#8221; Illiah or Asaram Bapu?</p>
<p>There are a few things every Hindu can do which will take the wind out of the sails of the evangelical lobby:<br />
1. Donate 5% of your salary to Hindu charities of your choice.<br />
2. Fund Ekal Vidyalayas and VOLUNTEER for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Chakravarty</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2008/01/14/media-irresponsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-220257</link>
		<dc:creator>Chakravarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shuvro,

All this while all you have been doing is snapping at the heels of others.

Most of your comments have been one liner flame baits, once you manage to provoke someone, you clearly enjoy the pointless tit for tat exchanges which follows.

Is your highness capable of writing something which is not a flame bait and which will let us mere mortals know why guv&#039;nor is not pleased with us. Of course it will not fit on a bumper sticker. C&#039;mon Shuvro, you can do that.

Go boy, give it your best shot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shuvro,</p>
<p>All this while all you have been doing is snapping at the heels of others.</p>
<p>Most of your comments have been one liner flame baits, once you manage to provoke someone, you clearly enjoy the pointless tit for tat exchanges which follows.</p>
<p>Is your highness capable of writing something which is not a flame bait and which will let us mere mortals know why guv&#8217;nor is not pleased with us. Of course it will not fit on a bumper sticker. C&#8217;mon Shuvro, you can do that.</p>
<p>Go boy, give it your best shot!</p>
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		<title>By: Chakravarty</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2008/01/14/media-irresponsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-220252</link>
		<dc:creator>Chakravarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
your battle? thats a joke. guys on this site wont ever leave the safty of posting vicious comments here. not even anywhere else. forget about going out into the real world. and you talk about a battle.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Shuvro,

What do you know about me? How would you know if I haven&#039;t volunteered for Ekal? How would you if I haven&#039;t helped organize  exhibition showing the atrocities on Kashmiri and Bangladeshi Hindus?

So why make stupid assumptions about people you nothing about? Mid life crisis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
your battle? thats a joke. guys on this site wont ever leave the safty of posting vicious comments here. not even anywhere else. forget about going out into the real world. and you talk about a battle.
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<p>Shuvro,</p>
<p>What do you know about me? How would you know if I haven&#8217;t volunteered for Ekal? How would you if I haven&#8217;t helped organize  exhibition showing the atrocities on Kashmiri and Bangladeshi Hindus?</p>
<p>So why make stupid assumptions about people you nothing about? Mid life crisis?</p>
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		<title>By: Shuvro Aikath</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2008/01/14/media-irresponsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-220232</link>
		<dc:creator>Shuvro Aikath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; do you have anything to say about the original issue- 
 &gt; or are you afraid of saying anything about it?

vicious comment quoted in a article. what to say about it? about same as vicious comments on this site. people say ugly things in emailor comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; do you have anything to say about the original issue-<br />
 &gt; or are you afraid of saying anything about it?</p>
<p>vicious comment quoted in a article. what to say about it? about same as vicious comments on this site. people say ugly things in emailor comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Gujjubhai</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2008/01/14/media-irresponsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-220213</link>
		<dc:creator>Gujjubhai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kancha Ilaiah&#039;s latest salvo in his war against Hinduism fought through the media:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/19/AR2008011902412.html?nav=rss_email/components

Note that KI himself describes the book as a &quot;weapon&quot;. Expect the Hindu-hating Indian ELM to go gaga over this book. Expect your the Christian teachers&#039; at your kids&#039; convent schools recommending this book as a &quot;scholarly critique&quot; of Hinduism. Expect American TV, editorials, and their lapdogs working in evangelical ministries all over India to keep hammering in this book. Evangelical presses will be busy translating this book in all Indian languages and freely distributing them among tribals and other rural Indians in their targeted areas for conversion war such as Orissa, Andhra, Kerala, MP and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kancha Ilaiah&#8217;s latest salvo in his war against Hinduism fought through the media:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/19/AR2008011902412.html?nav=rss_email/components" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/19/AR2008011902412.html?nav=rss_email/components</a></p>
<p>Note that KI himself describes the book as a &#8220;weapon&#8221;. Expect the Hindu-hating Indian ELM to go gaga over this book. Expect your the Christian teachers&#8217; at your kids&#8217; convent schools recommending this book as a &#8220;scholarly critique&#8221; of Hinduism. Expect American TV, editorials, and their lapdogs working in evangelical ministries all over India to keep hammering in this book. Evangelical presses will be busy translating this book in all Indian languages and freely distributing them among tribals and other rural Indians in their targeted areas for conversion war such as Orissa, Andhra, Kerala, MP and so on.</p>
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