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		<title>By: A N Umashankar</title>
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		<dc:creator>A N Umashankar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your review does not requires a rioposte as you have already announced to the world that you have a pronounced bias against the genius (Dr LS) . ( The entire world celebrates him, but you are not able to digest this fact, alas u are totally out of sync. The entire world can't be stupid to celebrate him). In both carnatic &#38; Hindustani traditions, raga improvisations, embellishments are the common ground. The notations are the same, it all depends on the skills, imagination, knowledge &#38; manodharma of the performing artists to expand &#38; color the canvas. Thus a raga can be elaborately played for even hours together without being monotonous or simply present it in 15 mins. This is the basic difference Western Classical &#38; our own tradition. It is very sad that this aspect has been conveniently ignored by you. Iam extremely Sorry to state that, you were not even aware of the details of musical pieces, that was played on that particular evening. When your recall &#38; memory is poor, how do you think that  u are eligible to do what you have done under the garb of being a critic. I will appreciate if you can understand the nuances, grammar &#38; theoretical aspects of Carnatic &#38; Hindustani music before you drop bombshells like this. Finally do not pass judgements in a very casual manner without even knowing the basic facts about personalities, else you will become a laughing stock in front of everyone. Craps written by you will never see the light if it were to be published in the print media. Perhaps, it is now understandable that you have chosen to go to blogger's site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your review does not requires a rioposte as you have already announced to the world that you have a pronounced bias against the genius (Dr LS) . ( The entire world celebrates him, but you are not able to digest this fact, alas u are totally out of sync. The entire world can&#8217;t be stupid to celebrate him). In both carnatic &amp; Hindustani traditions, raga improvisations, embellishments are the common ground. The notations are the same, it all depends on the skills, imagination, knowledge &amp; manodharma of the performing artists to expand &amp; color the canvas. Thus a raga can be elaborately played for even hours together without being monotonous or simply present it in 15 mins. This is the basic difference Western Classical &amp; our own tradition. It is very sad that this aspect has been conveniently ignored by you. Iam extremely Sorry to state that, you were not even aware of the details of musical pieces, that was played on that particular evening. When your recall &amp; memory is poor, how do you think that  u are eligible to do what you have done under the garb of being a critic. I will appreciate if you can understand the nuances, grammar &amp; theoretical aspects of Carnatic &amp; Hindustani music before you drop bombshells like this. Finally do not pass judgements in a very casual manner without even knowing the basic facts about personalities, else you will become a laughing stock in front of everyone. Craps written by you will never see the light if it were to be published in the print media. Perhaps, it is now understandable that you have chosen to go to blogger&#8217;s site.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Umashankar,

I accept every compliment you have hurled at me. Would you care to refute my review before being so generous with me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Umashankar,</p>
<p>I accept every compliment you have hurled at me. Would you care to refute my review before being so generous with me?</p>
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		<title>By: A N Umashankar</title>
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		<dc:creator>A N Umashankar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know there are two kinds of people in this world. One who become popular by being objective &#38; genuine in their transactions.The other class achieve popularity by carrying out slanderous campaign under the garb of being a music critic. Mr Sandeep belongs to the 2nd class. His outbursts are 3rd class &#38; doesn't merit any attention. This very nauseating piece of crap is a sufficient proof to exhibit his ignorance &#38; understanding about music. I personally feel that we don't any have moral, spiritual &#38; intellectual standing of any kind to criticise artists like Dr L S &#38; Dr M Balamuralikrishna.These are the very artists who have brought the carnatic music to the forefront &#38; keep on pushing the envelope at the global level.Dr L S's contribution to the carnatic music, western music, jazz music, East West crossovers in Fusion music, orchestral compositions, jugalbhandi is monumental, awe inspiring stands testimony to his creative genius. An artist who has been venerated by no less a person like Lord Yehudi Menuhin, Stephane Grapelli &#38; Svend Assmussen for his wizardry over the instrument. Mr Sandeep, you have got your facts wrong. Music will be best served without your half baked opinions. After 61 years, Dr LS still feels that he is only a student &#38; his musical journey is an eternal quest. It is exactly because of this humility he is still a glittering north pole star (Dhuruva Nakshatram) in the horizon of music. We are all fortunate &#38; gifted to be living during the times of Dr L S. Let us all enjoy his divinity, serenity &#38; soul that he brings in his  performances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know there are two kinds of people in this world. One who become popular by being objective &amp; genuine in their transactions.The other class achieve popularity by carrying out slanderous campaign under the garb of being a music critic. Mr Sandeep belongs to the 2nd class. His outbursts are 3rd class &amp; doesn&#8217;t merit any attention. This very nauseating piece of crap is a sufficient proof to exhibit his ignorance &amp; understanding about music. I personally feel that we don&#8217;t any have moral, spiritual &amp; intellectual standing of any kind to criticise artists like Dr L S &amp; Dr M Balamuralikrishna.These are the very artists who have brought the carnatic music to the forefront &amp; keep on pushing the envelope at the global level.Dr L S&#8217;s contribution to the carnatic music, western music, jazz music, East West crossovers in Fusion music, orchestral compositions, jugalbhandi is monumental, awe inspiring stands testimony to his creative genius. An artist who has been venerated by no less a person like Lord Yehudi Menuhin, Stephane Grapelli &amp; Svend Assmussen for his wizardry over the instrument. Mr Sandeep, you have got your facts wrong. Music will be best served without your half baked opinions. After 61 years, Dr LS still feels that he is only a student &amp; his musical journey is an eternal quest. It is exactly because of this humility he is still a glittering north pole star (Dhuruva Nakshatram) in the horizon of music. We are all fortunate &amp; gifted to be living during the times of Dr L S. Let us all enjoy his divinity, serenity &amp; soul that he brings in his  performances.</p>
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		<title>By: MU</title>
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		<dc:creator>MU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,please leave our kirtans and bhajans alone..Do not please attempt any kirtans on your desert God,for he does not understand what it is (tired of watching them on shalom channel &#38; You Tube :) )..
Also,wondering why I don't find Sandeep's blog on your list of 'Blogs I read',if you are so keen on it....Doesn't your church permit you that?(God fearing Christians always do what their church tell them to do...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,please leave our kirtans and bhajans alone..Do not please attempt any kirtans on your desert God,for he does not understand what it is (tired of watching them on shalom channel &amp; You Tube <img src='http://www.sandeepweb.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )..<br />
Also,wondering why I don&#8217;t find Sandeep&#8217;s blog on your list of &#8216;Blogs I read&#8217;,if you are so keen on it&#8230;.Doesn&#8217;t your church permit you that?(God fearing Christians always do what their church tell them to do&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Kedar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kedar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to see how a topic like this can produce such a reaction, given that this blog focusses mostly on politics. 

One interesting question: 
Does it prove that much of the blogosphere in India is still monitored and controlled by (almost) the same social elite who go to the kacheris?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to see how a topic like this can produce such a reaction, given that this blog focusses mostly on politics. </p>
<p>One interesting question:<br />
Does it prove that much of the blogosphere in India is still monitored and controlled by (almost) the same social elite who go to the kacheris?</p>
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		<title>By: Sandeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

You raise interesting points. Let me respond in a separate post. This is a promise. :)

And thanks a ton for that link. I liked it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>You raise interesting points. Let me respond in a separate post. This is a promise. <img src='http://www.sandeepweb.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And thanks a ton for that link. I liked it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought you might like this blog (by singer Chinmayee's mom) - http://padmasani.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought you might like this blog (by singer Chinmayee&#8217;s mom) - <a href="http://padmasani.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://padmasani.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;In a way, they are right because the audience is entirely different.&lt;/i&gt;

I'm not sure. Except for a few people like me (who was there just for the listening pleasure, knowing nothing about raagas or taalas except for a one year training in Karnatik), there were quite a lot of people who seemed to have genuine interest and in-depth knowledge in Karnatik music. The programme was restricted by entry pass and the audience was mostly the members of Thaalam. I think the Thaalam members are genuinely interested in music and dance forms. I could see many of the old people were putting thaalam along. Then there were even foreigners like &lt;a href="http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/2005/10/07/stories/2005100701180300.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Prem Manasvi&lt;/a&gt; who has a keen interest in the Indian art forms. But after the 30 minutes or so, I could see many of them were moving out, murmuring.

Thrissur (in Kerala) do not have much Sangeetha sabhas (I think only one or two) and the only chance the interested public has access to is this kind of musical festivals or the week long programmes organized in the Vadakkumnathan temple during the Sivaraathri week. So I think these 'celebrities' should take that into consideration regardless of the audience.

And also, I don't find anything wrong in musicians playing before the ignorant public too (with some tricks like playing some semi-classical filmy numbers in between if needed). I think in the long run, it will only help classical music to have a larger audience. I, for one, begun with listening to Yesudas' semi-classical filmy songs. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In a way, they are right because the audience is entirely different.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure. Except for a few people like me (who was there just for the listening pleasure, knowing nothing about raagas or taalas except for a one year training in Karnatik), there were quite a lot of people who seemed to have genuine interest and in-depth knowledge in Karnatik music. The programme was restricted by entry pass and the audience was mostly the members of Thaalam. I think the Thaalam members are genuinely interested in music and dance forms. I could see many of the old people were putting thaalam along. Then there were even foreigners like <a href="http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/2005/10/07/stories/2005100701180300.htm" rel="nofollow">Prem Manasvi</a> who has a keen interest in the Indian art forms. But after the 30 minutes or so, I could see many of them were moving out, murmuring.</p>
<p>Thrissur (in Kerala) do not have much Sangeetha sabhas (I think only one or two) and the only chance the interested public has access to is this kind of musical festivals or the week long programmes organized in the Vadakkumnathan temple during the Sivaraathri week. So I think these &#8216;celebrities&#8217; should take that into consideration regardless of the audience.</p>
<p>And also, I don&#8217;t find anything wrong in musicians playing before the ignorant public too (with some tricks like playing some semi-classical filmy numbers in between if needed). I think in the long run, it will only help classical music to have a larger audience. I, for one, begun with listening to Yesudas&#8217; semi-classical filmy songs. <img src='http://www.sandeepweb.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Niketan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niketan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandeep
I was a bit surprised that you have a bias against L Subramaniam. I am waiting for a post from you detailing that. From a layman's point of view, I have liked his fusion albums - Blossom and Flight of the humble bee. 
Though again from a thematic album point of view, Call of the valley by Shivkumar Sharma was better. Anyway waiting to see a post on this soon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandeep<br />
I was a bit surprised that you have a bias against L Subramaniam. I am waiting for a post from you detailing that. From a layman&#8217;s point of view, I have liked his fusion albums - Blossom and Flight of the humble bee.<br />
Though again from a thematic album point of view, Call of the valley by Shivkumar Sharma was better. Anyway waiting to see a post on this soon</p>
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		<title>By: Sandeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shristi,

My bias might be sad but that's your perception and you are entitled to it just like the way I'm entitled to my bias. 

&gt;&gt;If you were really at the concert, you would have seen that the response he got from the audience for his set was more than the other three sets combined.
Have you read my review fully? Read the FIRST sentence. I don't care about the audience's response. I don't judge the quality of an artiste's performance based on the applause (or the lack of it) he/she gets. 

&gt;&gt;If you don’t know anything about music - stay away.
Your comment makes me want to say the same thing about you. IF you have anything SPECIFIC to say--like about the performance BASED on what you heard there (technical aspects of the performance), please say it instead of assuming my ignorance of music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shristi,</p>
<p>My bias might be sad but that&#8217;s your perception and you are entitled to it just like the way I&#8217;m entitled to my bias. </p>
<p>>>If you were really at the concert, you would have seen that the response he got from the audience for his set was more than the other three sets combined.<br />
Have you read my review fully? Read the FIRST sentence. I don&#8217;t care about the audience&#8217;s response. I don&#8217;t judge the quality of an artiste&#8217;s performance based on the applause (or the lack of it) he/she gets. </p>
<p>>>If you don’t know anything about music - stay away.<br />
Your comment makes me want to say the same thing about you. IF you have anything SPECIFIC to say&#8211;like about the performance BASED on what you heard there (technical aspects of the performance), please say it instead of assuming my ignorance of music.</p>
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