Nobody Seems to Look at the Roots

This blog refuses to let me have a peaceful vacation. I’m gone for four days, blasts erupt in Jaipur and the blogsphere is frenzied. Fellow-bloggers steal my thunder by taking the concerned citizens brigade apart. I’m with both Nitin and Yossarin on the useful idiots remark but my concern is more fundamental. And I’m not mentioning this for the first time.

Nitin has rightly expressed reservations about the credibility of a certain email the terrorists have supposedly sent.

The email message may well have come from the real perpetrators but is almost certainly designed to mislead public opinion. Those with the capacity to carry out coordinated bombings should also be smart enough to know that such attacks can’t imaginably cause broad changes in foreign policy. The claim that this was an attack on the tourism industry would have been more credible if tourists or foreigners were the principal targets. In all likelihood, therefore, the content of this email is a red herring.

There’s another news source, which doesn’t express these reservations; rather, it delves into the content of the email. Without discounting either viewpoint, I’d like to examine the contents of that email. Shockingly, this item appears in the Hindu. Praveen Swami, the author, nails it well.

It would be misleading, though, to understand the e-mail only as a claim of responsibility. Like a similar document issued by the Indian Mujahideen after the bombings of three trial-court buildings in Uttar Pradesh last year, the e-mail is — despite its crude style and poor spelling — a political manifesto. […]

Citing from the Koran and the Hadith, or traditions of the Prophet, the Indian Mujahideen argues its actions have theological legitimacy. Scriptural calls for forgiveness relied on by the Deoband clerics, it says, are only relevant after a decisive military victory. Dialogue, it continues, is futile: “there is no existence of compromise between a believer and a non-believer.” […]

SIMI posters also called on Muslims to emulate the acts of Mahmud Ghaznavi.

Like similar previous incidents, nobody seems to look at the roots. This, despite the perpetrators spelling it out explicitly. Every act of Islamic terror has its sanction in the religion itself. Beginning with the Prophet, several treatises have been written about the divine sanction that Jihad has, as well as the mechanics of carrying out a Jihad. Perhaps the latest work expounding the finer subtleties of Jihad is Brigadier S.K. Malik’s The Quranic Concept of War. That book in many ways, transformed Pakistan into a terrorist nation from what it was originally envisioned as: a home for Indian Muslims.

The Dictionary of Islam defines Jihad as a religious war with those who are unbelievers in the mission of Muhammad [the Prophet]. It is an incumbent religious duty, established in the Quran and in the Traditions [i.e., the Hadits or the ‘Acts of Muhammad’] as a divine institution, and enjoined especially for the purpose of advancing Islam and of repelling evil from Muslims. This is not vastly different from there is no existence of compromise between a believer and a non-believer. The call to emulate Mahmud Ghaznavi is also completely in context. One of the earliest and the most celebrated maraduer of India destroyed temples and idols out of a sense of holy duty.

Yet, our honourable useful idiots, experts, and commentators persist in looking for interpretations that don’t exist. We also have the other breed, the humanity-lovers, who are more dangerous than the useful idiots. They have a way of clouding reality by brushing everything with the standard “fellow Indians/citizens killed, let’s mourn, after 3/4/5/10/60 years, justice is still elusive” brush. That kind of explains everything.

Amid all this din, we continue to push our luck.


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[…] It is hard to say, but it may well be that the Indian media prevented the Indian Mujahideen from setting off their tenth bomb. The earliest reports of the contents of their email made them appear merely dangerously confused. But as we learn more about what exactly they said in their email, it is clear that their message was not merely incendiary. It is, as Praveen Swami puts it, a manifesto for the “Indian Mujahideen’s Declaration of Open War Against India. Declaration of Open War Against India.” [via Sandeep] […]


Comments

You’re right, nobody looks at the roots. The roots are the failure of this country to deliver justice after horrendous and ghastly crimes. The roots are the failure of guys like you, with your learning and readers, to insist on that justice. Instead you glide over the lack of punishment for the killings of gujerat, mumbai etc. That ressults in bomb blast after bomb blast.

When I wrote my post, all that was known of the Indian Mujahideen’s email was what I linked to. On that basis I concluded that this was a bunch of dangerous morons cleverly manipulated by their smarter friends across the border.

After reading Mr Swami’s op-ed this morning, I think the MSM deliberately practised self-censorship to avoid inflaming the situation. As you and Mr Swami point out, the Indian Mujahideen have clearly declared war on the Indian state. And have expressed clear venom and hatred towards Hindus.

While I think there was some justification in being cautious while releasing the terrorists’ email (for it could well be their 10th bomb) I think it is important that the contents of the email be released to the public, in their entirety.

Let people know what we are up against. So that the public knows what the response ought to be. Mr Swami, as usual, does the country a great service by putting the facts out in the public domain.

Aikath don’t you realize that Gujarat happened for burning alive of Hindus, the riots are all a reaction to the Muslim appeasement of scumbags like you running the gov’t and the failure to deliver justice to KPs.

So why don’t u do that first before u lecture sandeep like the little hypocrite u are.

And rest assured, blasts would have taken place whether the whole country was filled with grovelling retards like you or not, because scumbags like u r just useful idiots to the Islamic fanatics whose sole aim is the establishment of a worldwide khilafa and everyone becoming Muslim in confirmation with the teachings of madmo and the Quran.

Nitin,

I don’t doubt your research, it is solid as always. When I wrote this post, I had the benefit of hindsight but your point about the plausibility of that email still holds good, i.e. despite what we now know.

Oh no! I think you are expecting a bit too much asking for the entire contents to be made public. And I still can’t recover from the shock of reading that in the Hindu.

Harish,
This guy is a known troll on my blog. You’re wasting your breath. :-)

Troll, is it? What a neat way of avoding answering. I would like all terroristts nabbed and punished - for Godhra, Akshardham, Gulberg, Mumbay, Jaipur, Hyderabad, Best Bakry, everywhere. All those atrocties. On this blog I am yet to see as clear a statement. instead this blog wont even willing to call some of these guys terrrorists. This blog wants to protect one kinda terrrorists.

Shuvro…keep flogging a dead-horse my friend…:) The problem is the perennial victim mentality that engulfs the Muslims, esp. in India…they are always the victims…while the others (non-Muslims) are the perpetrators, and with the Indian MSM chock-a-block of bleeding heart liberals, they can keep on harping on this canard. Tell me something…as to why are Muslims (esp radicals) are at odds with the non-Muslims all over the world — as Nitin rightly points out in this post, quoting S K Malik’s book…they want every non-Muslim to convert to Islam…thats why this concept of jihad against the natives of ‘Dar-ul-Harb’. Indain Muslims (or their so-called leaders) have perfected the art of playing the underdog…the problem is, as someone said long back…wherever the Muslims are in a minority, they talk about democratic rights, and wherever they are in a majority, they fight for theocracy.

Shvro, just for a moment even if we believe you that since the ’so called victims’ of Gujarat and Mumbai have not got the ‘justice’ as you guys claim…But then what is your justification for ‘earlier’ bomb attacks. After all ‘ Islamic Terrorism’ did not ’spurt’ out all of a sudden after Gujarat or - since, u would of course drag Ayodhya Too - so preempting it, why even before Ayodhya?

Do read the post above, and refute that. When a toddler in Madrassa is taught that we are believers and any body who do not believe in So called ‘Prophet of Peace’ is Kafir and it is religious duty to either make him believe or annihilating him/her waging ‘Jehad’.

Problem with you ’secular jehadis’ is, you guys are shit scared of speaking the truth.

PI.

Gujarat and Mumbaii - The ‘earlier’ bomb attacks? What were those? In Mumbai bomb blassts happened two months after the riots. Is that ‘earlier’?

Here is truth I am speaking. Terorists have attacked us in Gujarat, Ahmedabad, Godhra, Jaipur, Mumbai, etc. Some are Islamistic, some are Hinduistic. Please punish them ALL! Will you speak that truth or will you beat the bushes?

Is barbarindians the blog of Shuvro Aikath? His comments on this blog seem to be in variance with what I find written on the blog.

Comrade As-Is-Aikath-Known-To-Himself,

>>The roots are the failure of this country to deliver justice after horrendous and ghastly crimes.

In peddling your usual justification for murders by Jihadis, you seem to be suggesting that Muslims are naturally predisposed to violence and to killing innocent people. You are not suggesting, for example, that the injustice done to Kashmiri Hindus will result in a wide-spread massacre of innocent Muslims by Hindus. You are also not suggesting, as another example, that if the injustice done to innocents at Jaipur should result in the killing of random, innocent Muslims, that will be in the natural order of things.

So can you explain why you believe that Muslims are inherently prone to killing innocent people?

Beat around the bushes, twisting the words, all the usual.

I say: punish ALL the terrorists.

This is twisted into “you believe that Muslims are inherently prone to killing innocent people.” Of corse Comrade Ot will not explain the twist, he will only twist some more. Wait to watch.

by the wya, “A-I-K-A-T-H” = “As is Known Aikath to Himself”. Not “As is Aikath Known to Himself”.

He is a retard who justifies Islamic atrocities based on utter bs.

Why don’t “intellectuals” like him think about why Hindus in Pakistan, Christians in Egypt, and Hindus in Malaysia are not blowing up Muslim civilians, last time I checked in all these countries there is legalised discrimination against non Muslims and even state supported massacres, yet you never see these communities taking to terrorism worldwide.

And that tells u all u need to know about the mindset of the Muslim fanatics and their sidekicks like Aikath, scumbags like him don’t listen to reason, if u otoh blow urself up he will be busy finding justifications for ur actions.

Harish, what is you’re problem with my one and only one statement here: punish ALL the terrorists. Godhra, Jaipur, Ahmedabd, Mumbai, Hyderrabad. ALL.

How does this “justifies Islamic atrocities”?

Do you not want to punish all the terrrorist? Why not?

Aikath you claimed the blasts are a result of Gujarat riots and a failure of the Indian judiciary to provide justice to the victims.

That is a shabby statement trying to provide supposed “reasons” for Islamic terrorism.

I have yet to see you answer, why despite the overwhelming failure of the justice system in diff countries, the following communities have not been blowing up civilians:

1) Kashmiri Pandits, nearly 20 years in refugee camps and gradual extinction of their culture.

2) Pakistani Hindus and Sikhs reduced from nearly 25% in the Western wing to no more than 3-4% today through genocide and periodic massacres.

3) Malaysian Hindus, descendants of indentured servants being persecuted for being of Indian origin and being Hindus through the Bhumiputra policy and religious courts (look up the case of Revathi).

4) Egyptian copts, a tiny minority Christian community repeatedly targeted for attacks by the Muslim majority.

5) Tibetans (i don’t think i need to explain here) unless u lyk the Chindu find it gleeful and Chairman Mao great.

In all these cases and in the cases of numerous other communities, justice has been slow to non existent, infact the respective countries seem to see nothing wrong at all in state sponsored discrimination, some proudly boast about their proper implementation of Islamic teachings (basically true).

Yet I find none of these communities blowing up random Muslim or Chinese civilians, why do u think that is?

Poeple who think terrorism of whatever kind - wheather Islamistic, LTTE or Irish or Hinduistic, etc - happens by itself, without roots in some injustice or offense those comunnities feel, are only completely fooling themselves.

The people writing and readingthis blogg know it. They dont want to admit it.

Looking at roots is not to mean you justify the terrorism. What it means is what I am saying which I think you dont agree - punish ALL the terrorists.

WHy you dont agree, please tell?

Comrade Aikath, thanks for the correction.

But you are not addressing the point. Do you think unless the injustice done to people of Jaipur, to Hindus of Kashmir etc is addressed immediately, there will be attacks against innocent Muslims in, say, Andhra Pradesh?

While on the subject, do you also think random communists across the country could be bumped off because of the terror perpetrated on the people of Nandigram by communists?

comrade Ot, I asked first. you answer, and then I will also. (though since I am knowing you well I also know you will not answer).

I say: punish ALL the terrorists. you are twisting this into “you believe that Muslims are inherently prone to killing innocent people.” Can you explain this twisting?

why you guys don’t want to punish all the terrrorist?

Moron Shuvro,

No Indian is going to call Bhagat Singh, Guru Gobind Singh, or Shivaji as terrorist, although that is how the seculars view these people. Maybe you have not noticed but there has been a prolonged attack against Indians and their culture by the 4M. Also, there is no such thing as Hindu terrorist. We are looking at things at civilizational scale while you are preoccupied with gutter.

Islam and Christianity both encourage violence against Hindus because they are deemed as deficient nonbelievers. The secularism that you espouse is a shill and useful tool for these two iconoclastic and murderous cultures. So, No, there is no equivalence between Hindus defending themselves and the ideologically motivated and relentless attacks of Islam.

This shuvro moron has inadvertedly brought out another commonplace secular allegation against Hindus; that Hindus are not legitimated in feeling anger and hatred for what has been perpetrated against them by Islam, Christianity, and Secular Colonialism. The secular state is the only legitimate actor and agent; since this secular state derives its “rights” from the Lord God, unlike the heathen Hindus. Go to sleep Idiot Hindus. we’ll take care of you, say the seculars.

Thankfully, most Hindus are only fooled for so long before they awaken and start to ask questions. How about asking why Islam has been attacking Hindus for past 800 years? Could it have anything to do with their theology? These are the questions we should be asking and which seculars Shuvro desperately wants to divert us away from.

>there is no such thing as Hindu terrorist.

just what I knew someone here wud finnally say. Say In other words, “I decide who theterrorists are. Guys I like are not terrorist.”

> Hindus are not legitimated in feeling anger and hatred for what has been perpetrated against them by Islam, Christianity, and Secular Colonialism.

also what I knew wud come up. only Hindus are “legitimated”, nobody else. How come bin Ladden uses thesame words about his beloved islamic terrorrist friends?

Punish ALL the terrorist. Why you cannot agree with that?What it says about you?

Red Salutes, Comrade Aikath. Since we’re comarades, please remember to begin the exchange with a red salute.

>>I say: punish ALL the terrorists.

That’s not what you said first. You said: “Instead you glide over the lack of punishment for the killings of gujerat, mumbai etc. That ressults in bomb blast after bomb blast.”

You neatly “explained” why “bomb blast after bomb blast” is happening. Hence my question: since Kashmiri Hindus did not get any justice (and hence gujerat, mumbai etc happened), do you now expect more killings of largely innocent muslims (and some innocent hindus) in Andhra Pradesh and Orissa as well? More importantly, do you think Nandigram is going to result in comrades getting blown up across the country, and do you think Tibetan terrorists might target the offices of The Hindu for the latter’s brazen defence of the injustice done to Tibetans by Chinese communists?

In solidarity,
OT.

(You don’t have to rhyme though, Aikath).

Moron Shuvro,

Your colonized mind is too moronic to understand what I just said. Gandhi was struck by same secular inertia virus when he implied that Hindus are not legitimate actors and they should welcome their Islamic killers with open arms - after all, we are all brothers; how dare Hindus actually show some spine and form a legitimate opinion and even more daringly act accordingly. Why did Vivekananda say that he would prefer a rajasik Hindu who dared to act rather than the tamasik Hindu who just suffered. Christian theology and its secular translation denies Hindus legitimacy of action and feeling. Even damn gandhi was able to see it when he said that british laws turned every Hindu child into a bastard entity, then why the hell 21st century moron like you cannot see it. Hindus are imbecile fit only for being butchered per your secular and christian doctrine since they are denied grace of Lord God as well as “rationality”. This is what I am saying, you moron. Christianity, Islam, Secularism - they are same variation of theological damning of the hindu as an imbecilic and illegitimate entity.

Punish Bhagat Singh. Which Imbecile Hindu is going to say that? I doubt even you are stupid enough to do so.

Red salutes, Comrade Aikath.

>>just what I knew someone here wud finnally say. Say In other words, “I decide who theterrorists are. Guys I like are not terrorist.”

Guess what! I agree with you! There are Hindus who will kill innocent Muslims if injustice is done to innocent Hindus by Muslim terrorists. It IS legitimate to call these people Hindu Terrorists. There are CPIM terrorists (Nandigram), at any rate communism is intrinsically a fascist, and hence terrorist, ideology.

The question before you really is: do you think, just as it is inevitable that there will be Muslim terrorists if injustice is done to innocent Muslims, and hence the killing largely of innocent Hindus by them, do you also think it inevitable that there will be Hindu/Buddhist terrorists, and killings largely of innocent Muslims by them? Or do you believe that only Muslims are prone to violence?

Comrade Ot, if you want to give red salute, you please to do it, it suits your idealogy better. I will only greet with folded hands.

Yes, you glide over the punishment for the killings of gujerat, mumbai etc. since i am said it first and you don’t like, please answer, have you asked for punishment for this killings? where? you please answer that, which i asked first, and I will answer after. (I have answer, not like you).

> Punish Bhagat Singh. Which Imbecile Hindu is going to say that?

nobody. because Bhagat Singh got punished. You are not aware?

Shuvro….It is time that the attrocities and injustice dished out on 800 million hindus in India from 1940 must be accepted.
Lets start with the 1942 Calcutta riots where a Barbarian called H.S Suhrawardy did it to the hindus, Wwhat did he do? Forcibly converted Hindus to Islam on gun point, else raped hindu women and converted them to Islam, in 1947 again Calcutta, Bengal and Bihar flared up, exactly in the same fashion. That is how you have such large muslim population in Bengal at the time of Independence.To blame Gujratis now is a farce….First explain Calcutta, Bengal and Bihar during the 40’s.
THE HINDU MAHASABHA REACHED AN EXTREME HINDUTVA…THAT ALL FORCIBLY CONVERTED HINDUS TO ISLAM AND CHRISTANITY MUST BE RE- CONVERTED TO HINDUISM….
Everybody including self felt that bit too much…But reading your post’s…THIS IS THE NEED OF THE HOUR….
First explain Muslim attrocities in Independent India…then ask questions..

Redder salutes Comrade Aikath.

>>, please answer, have you asked for punishment for this killings?

Actually, I have been saying since 1991, when Kashmiri Hindus were forced out of the valley, that “all terrorists must be punished”. You are saying that now. I’ll repeat for your benefit: all terrorists must be punished, like I said way back in 1991.

With that point out of the way, let’s return to the question you’ve been wonderfully waltzing about:

The question before you really is: do you think, just as it is inevitable that there will be Muslim terrorists if injustice is done to innocent Muslims, and hence the killing largely of innocent Hindus by them, do you also think it inevitable that there will be Hindu terrorists if injustice is done to Hindus, and killings largely of innocent Muslims by them? Or do you believe that only Muslims are prone to violence?

In solidarity,
OT

Aikath, why didn’t u answer my question u scumbag?

OT has been asking u the same, yet u always seem to dodge his main point.

Wonder why u have to do that if u really have any facts on ur side.

Ot, you still did not answer. I am giving the question again from my last commment.

Yes, you glide over the punishment for the killings of gujerat, mumbai etc. since i am said it first and you don’t like, please answer, have you asked for punishment for this killings? where? you please answer that, which i asked first, and I will answer after. (I have answer, not like you).

Please tell me, have you asked for punishment for the killings in gujerat and mumbai etc? i am asking for punishing for terrorists in kashmir, godhra, mumbai, best bakery, jaipur, baroda, everywhere. are you?

duggirala, you wont get answers from me. only jokes. please to think why.

“Shuvro”,

I don’t believe anyone here has advocated a free pass here for killers/looters/rapisits/rioters of any particular party/religion. (Correct me if otherwise)

Yes, all these scumbags ought to be brought to justice.

Now that’s been established, I don’t see anything original in what’s been said or written here.

Sandeep
>>>This guy is a known troll on my blog.
Let me guess. Dilip Dcubed?

Ot…mate let me answer this……
Shuvro…
Why should we ask for any mercy for what happened in the list you have mentioned. God, this is like a record player on and on….NO HINDUS WILL NO LONGER REPENT ON ANY ACTION OF THEIRS PROTECTING THEIR WAY OF LIVING AND THEIR RELIGION….We have been at the receiving end for centuries and in Mordern India first it was the British , then the Gandhi Nehru axis of evil which tormented us Hindus.
As said earlier ask the Muslims of India to accept their folies in India first then ask questions.
We Hindus have been large hearted since mankind came into existance, our peace loving and god fearing nature allowed Islamic conquerers to rule for such a long time.
Do you know the extent of our largese, TODAY in India you have the Malis-e-ittehadul muslmeen(MIM) with OWAISI’s at the helm, a party which openly preached a HYderabad state with the pakistanis during partition. Today you MP’s from this gutter party in the Parliament of India, WHY ????? Because a section of Muslims call it thier own party and like voting for it.As regards to Owaisi’s it for everyone to know, what Akbaruddin Owaisi said that HE IS A MUSLIM FIRST AND THEN AN INDIAN…..
It is a Hindu largesse which is allowing such radicals to sit in the parliament and continue his tratiorous activities…

Shuvro….This will change…their is a limit where one can take shit from others.Things have to change and Hindus must be recognized the PRE DOMINANT RELIGION IN THE UNION OF INDIA…..

AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION REGARDING PUNISHMENT….
No we have asked coz we dont want any punishment for the list you mentioned.
We are asking for punishment for the muslim radicals who have forced the Kashmiri Pandits out of the valley….Omar Abdullah has said this….A bit of a research on your part is a must before you start your nonsense….

ooops pls. read first line asNO WE HAVENT ASKED COZ WE DONT WANT ANY PUNISHMENT FOR THE LIST YOU HAVE MENTIONED…..

Aikath u loser, if u had any answers u wud hav given them in the first place, just confirms my diagnosis of u as a senile coward who is busy justifying islamic terrorism, not much to think about unless being retarded as u r, u fancy urself to be the next einstein.

> WE DONT WANT ANY PUNISHMENT FOR THE LIST YOU HAVE MENTIONED…..

thank you. its’ exactly what I am been expecting to hear. Your peoples acts of terrorism are not terrorism, and not for punishment.

You use same exact language as terrorist Osama. congradullations.

thuggirala, I like very much your ability with bad words!

Shuvro…you may think as you please. But what I have written are facts. Hindus are fed up feeding a nation which is compeletly thankless to their efforts. On top of it Hindus are targetted virtually every second they live.
Enough is Enough….IT’S PAY BACK TIME NOW…..and to show….WHO’S THE MAN …..

Blood-red salutes, comrade Aikath.

>>Your peoples acts of terrorism are not terrorism, and not for punishment.

Are you hearing me, Comrade? I AM saying, like YOU, punish ALL terrorists. I AM saying punish Muslim terrorists, Hindu terrorists, Christian terrorists, Sikh terrorists, commie terrorists, socialist terrorists, Maoist terrorists, brahmin terrorists, reddy terrorists, jat terrorists, shia terrorists, pentecostal terrorists etc, etc .. punish them all, is what I am saying.

But when I say exactly what you have said, the point doesn’t sink in you. Which makes me suspect that just as your real, secret belief is that Muslims are prone to killing innocent people whereas Hindus are rational enough not to, your real, secret belief is that “punish all terrorists” is a platitude that doesn’t mean much. Which is why, even as you air it quite nonchalantly, you get all suspicious when others agree with you on that point!!

Well, maybe you’ll prove folks here wrong by stopping being the silly Stonewall Jackson Jr you’re playing and coming instead straight to the point: do you think, just as it is inevitable that there will be Muslim terrorists if injustice is done to innocent Muslims, and hence the killing largely of innocent Hindus by them, do you also think it inevitable that there will be Hindu terrorists if injustice is done to Hindus, and killings largely of innocent Muslims by them? Or do you believe that only Muslims are prone to mindless violence?

Harami Shuvro,

As said by Ot, condemnations are cheap gimmicks in which the abrahamics/seculars constantly engage. Even the seculars condemn every islamic atrocity and pope apologizes to native americans after the fact. These fake apologies don’t mean anything in real terms and are intended to obfuscate.

India is not diverse and thriving because of these secualr hysterics but rather because of the hindu ethos. Muslim actions tell us what they are planning for Hindus, which has already come to pass in fruition in places like pukistan. Compare Hindu Actions to Muslim actions. You are basically playing the old secular game of “tolerance for intolerance”. Islam, Christianity, and Secularism exemplify intolerance of the heathen way of life and have relentlessly sought to destroy Hindu life and culture. This is the issue, moron. Indians desrve answer as to why they are constantly being attacked by these haramzadas over past 1000 years, why the temples have been destroyed, and why they have been constantly demonized.

@kishkindaa/Ot…
Shuvro…is a confused SICKULARIST. Jerk…does not get the point…Gee…I blog to get away from that load of crap what the MSM prints/airs and here too we have such moron’s.

1. First of all, Mohd. was no prophet, so pls refrain from calling him a prophet. A prophet must prophesy. He did not prophesy.
Sura 17:90-94 of the Quran tells about how, when Mohd was challenged to perform a miracle and prove he was from the true god, he could not perform any and here he actually says himself: “Am I anything but a man,- a messenger? “. -
In Sura 13:7, we find that Mohd did not perform any miracles. The people are saying that even one sign would would be enough to convince them, just one miracle performed by Mohd - and yet he still does none…. All along, the unbelievers asked Mohd to perform a miracle so that they could believe. All they got in response was, - Sura 17:90They say: “We will by no means believe in you until you cause a fountain to gush forth from the earth for us.,” And Mohd would reply:- Sura 17:93 Say: “Am I anything but a man,- a messenger?” So Mohd even disqualified himself as a true man of God, let alone a prophet.

Yet, why are non muslims still insisting on calling that mass murderer, plunderer, sex maniac rapist, paedophile a prophet? You demean and insult yourself when you call that satanic son a prophet. So please, cease and desist. And any muslim wanting a debate on this, you’re welcome. I take the challenge.

2. The reason why India is attacked, and the Congress led govt will do nothing is because the Sikh puppet of a pm has taken a lot of Saudi money for the existing madrassas to promote Wahabbism. When Saudi Arabia cleared up its terrorists, where do you think those mullahs go to apart from Afghanistan and Pakistan and other failed states. India of course for there are the most corrupt politicians who would sell their dying grandmother for a paisa and their fellow Indians into penury and servitude. !!!

Saudi Prince Mohammad Al Abdallah Al Faisal in an interview with Turki El Dakheil, famous Host for the popular Saudi Arabian (Arabiya channel) TV talk show Eda’at (enlightment), for “changing the education philosophy in Saudi Arabia”. Adding “our curriculum produces terrorists”. ”He continued, “I am not happy with the level and results of education in the Kingdom, and I personally sent my children after their middle school to study abroad .. Since we realized from experience that our curriculums produced terrorists who went and blew themselves up .. we have to find out how to get our students out of that path”. http://www.vigilantfreedom.org/910blog/2008/01/25/saudi-prince-al-faisal-admits-our-curriculum-produces-terrorists/ http://krishna109.newsvine.com/_news/2008/01/26/1257615-saudi-prince-al-faisal-admits-our-curriculum-produces-terrorists .

Money has done the evil deed of making the Sikh pm forget his gurus who were murdered by muslims.
India is the Unfinished Business that Aurangzeb failed and which now Saudi Arabians now want to complete. Aiding, abetting in mass murder of Hindus is the Opus Dei representative Sonia Gandhi who takes instructions from the Jesuits. Hindus are nothing more than cannon fodder. That’s the reason for the POTA elimination with no other law to apprehend terrorists nor terrorism in place. Indian politicians are the worst of the lot who work hand in glove with terrorists and they ensure that ALL involved in the war against terrorism fail. The Indian judiciary drags its feet and found a new delight: political correctness which means No Intelligence Allowed. So murderers already convicted to hang are given reprieve by Congress for vote banks.

Your real terrorists are your politiicans, many members of Congress. Nothing will work until and unless you have a thorough clean up. Indians who cherish peace, stability have to decide: Enslavement or Freedom. It might have to be a Civil War, but if you do not “storm the bastille” you are going to be sliced off, salami style.
Then, don’t complain. Enjoy sharia and jizya and dhimmitude. There is already warning that 75 million, repeat 75 million Bangladeshis are set to invade India.
Ever heard of People Power? Try it, it works.

3. A commenter mentioned Malaysia. It was people power that saw the malay-muslim dominated party that had ruled Malaysia for 50 years, the last 26 years with hatred towards the other races defeated and loss of 5 States, including 2 of the Richest in Peninsula Malaysia.

Forget about America and Britain fighting a War of terror. It’s all bunkum. It’s business as usual for them - the Deaf, dumb, Blindmen of Corporates rule.

Regards, zena

Oh, another important point. Muslims, their useful idiots, muslim apologists, closet islamists et al have to convince non muslims why there are more than 100% verses of VIOLENCE, DEATH, TORTURE against non muslims cited in their book of terror aka quran, which is LITERAL, not given for discussion.

@Zena…

Interesting indeed.

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