Comments on: My Op-Ed in Pioneer: True colours of communalism http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/ Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:23:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Indian History Carnival - 16 | DesiPundit http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/comment-page-1/#comment-304729 Indian History Carnival - 16 | DesiPundit Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:17:25 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/#comment-304729 [...] the Hindu Mahasabha was reprimanded for fighting against this very demand for separatism.” Sandeep explains the importance of the Lucknow Pact of 1916 and Pirpur Report of [...] [...] the Hindu Mahasabha was reprimanded for fighting against this very demand for separatism.” Sandeep explains the importance of the Lucknow Pact of 1916 and Pirpur Report of [...]

]]> By: Palahalli http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/comment-page-1/#comment-304093 Palahalli Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:11:58 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/#comment-304093 kharaharapriya - Obama is worse.That article is such a sad read. But with all this, the Left is still not happy. They want more. kharaharapriya – Obama is worse.That article is such a sad read.

But with all this, the Left is still not happy. They want more.

]]> By: arun http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/comment-page-1/#comment-304006 arun Mon, 13 Apr 2009 07:15:24 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/#comment-304006 it is sad that arun shourie does not have a proper web presence and blog like u guys do ... cant u guys get him to remedy that? it is sad that arun shourie does not have a proper web presence and blog like u guys do … cant u guys get him to remedy that?

]]> By: kharaharapriya http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/comment-page-1/#comment-303994 kharaharapriya Mon, 13 Apr 2009 06:20:40 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/#comment-303994 Pala, Looks like he is all noise and no substance to me. He is gandhi/nehru types. Pala,
Looks like he is all noise and no substance to me. He is gandhi/nehru types.

]]> By: Palahalli http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/comment-page-1/#comment-303810 Palahalli Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:10:16 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/#comment-303810 Sandeep, I did not know where this fit in...but do write something on the Great Liberal Hope - Barack Hussein Obama. It's time we talked about him and his..I feel. Fellow commenters...your thoughts.. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1238562949505&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter Sandeep, I did not know where this fit in…but do write something on the Great Liberal Hope – Barack Hussein Obama. It’s time we talked about him and his..I feel.

Fellow commenters…your thoughts..

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1238562949505&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter

]]> By: Palahalli http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/comment-page-1/#comment-303367 Palahalli Sat, 11 Apr 2009 05:22:14 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/#comment-303367 Shuvro Aikath - Good question, but that makes partition itself meaningless. Congress should never have agreed to partition when it could not decide on population exchange. But having agreed to partition; not finding a way to exchange population makes the entire action crass and criminal apart from burdensome for oncoming generations. It certainly does not absolve Congress and Gandhi of responsibility. Your thoughts? Shuvro Aikath – Good question, but that makes partition itself meaningless. Congress should never have agreed to partition when it could not decide on population exchange.

But having agreed to partition; not finding a way to exchange population makes the entire action crass and criminal apart from burdensome for oncoming generations.

It certainly does not absolve Congress and Gandhi of responsibility.

Your thoughts?

]]> By: Shuvro Aikath http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/comment-page-1/#comment-303364 Shuvro Aikath Sat, 11 Apr 2009 05:01:00 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/#comment-303364 > the “master-stroke” of Gandhi and Nehru of not allowing > transfer of population despite handing over one-third > of the country’s territory. "not allowing the transfer of population"?? b4 1947, hindus and muslims were spread all over subcontinent. in every small town and villiage. how this transfer is to be fully done, apart from your comment about alowing or not allowing?? > the “master-stroke” of Gandhi and Nehru of not allowing
> transfer of population despite handing over one-third
> of the country’s territory.

“not allowing the transfer of population”??

b4 1947, hindus and muslims were spread all over subcontinent. in every small town and villiage. how this transfer is to be fully done, apart from your comment about alowing or not allowing??

]]> By: Palahalli http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/comment-page-1/#comment-302388 Palahalli Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:40:29 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/#comment-302388 photonman - "Not sure how such a restriction on people is consistent with the rights and freedoms guaranteed to them in a liberal state. BTW, even with this definition of ‘impotent’, none of these countries you mentioned have impotent majorities. Megachurches, anyone?" - I don't see how the National Majority's rights and freedoms can be guaranteed in a Liberal State espousing the Multi-Culturalist creed. It doesn't make sense. So what about mega churches? Today the Church is willing to sup with Islam...of what use is its size? Western Civilization is in dire need of grounding in its own soil. It has no use for evangelism. The Church has lost sight of this National need completely. Yes, I'm not a Liberal. ********* Kishkindhaa - I agree. Liberals everywhere are busy-bodies who will not mind their own business. They constantly feel the need to meddle because they are never happy with the way things are. photonman – “Not sure how such a restriction on people is consistent with the rights and freedoms guaranteed to them in a liberal state. BTW, even with this definition of ‘impotent’, none of these countries you mentioned have impotent majorities. Megachurches, anyone?”

- I don’t see how the National Majority’s rights and freedoms can be guaranteed in a Liberal State espousing the Multi-Culturalist creed. It doesn’t make sense.

So what about mega churches? Today the Church is willing to sup with Islam…of what use is its size?

Western Civilization is in dire need of grounding in its own soil. It has no use for evangelism. The Church has lost sight of this National need completely.

Yes, I’m not a Liberal.

*********

Kishkindhaa – I agree. Liberals everywhere are busy-bodies who will not mind their own business. They constantly feel the need to meddle because they are never happy with the way things are.

]]> By: Kishkindhaa http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/comment-page-1/#comment-302363 Kishkindhaa Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:48:01 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/#comment-302363 Western liberals ensure that nonwesterners are colonized, deculturated, and deracinated, and not able to mount effective challenges to the colonial system. They will shed umpteen tears for a poor converted Mexican, but the independent-minded Hindu will be treated with the disdain of a "liberal" Doniger, Dalrymple, Kipling, Thapar, and Witzel. Liberalism is as much a threat to western society as Protestantism is to Christianity; that is, Liberalism is just a sect within western colonial discourse. All the favored pets of the western liberals like Arundhati, Adiga, and Amartya are inimical to heathen (eg Hindu) interests. Western liberals ensure that nonwesterners are colonized, deculturated, and deracinated, and not able to mount effective challenges to the colonial system. They will shed umpteen tears for a poor converted Mexican, but the independent-minded Hindu will be treated with the disdain of a “liberal” Doniger, Dalrymple, Kipling, Thapar, and Witzel. Liberalism is as much a threat to western society as Protestantism is to Christianity; that is, Liberalism is just a sect within western colonial discourse. All the favored pets of the western liberals like Arundhati, Adiga, and Amartya are inimical to heathen (eg Hindu) interests.

]]> By: photonman http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/comment-page-1/#comment-302356 photonman Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:53:37 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/04/02/my-op-ed-in-pioneer-true-colours-of-communalism/#comment-302356 @Palahalli: <i>When a Majority is prevented from asserting itself and prevented from taking steps to ensure it’s own survival as a Civilization and that Majority subjects itself to such restrictions, then it has become impotent.</i> Not sure how such a restriction on people is consistent with the rights and freedoms guaranteed to them in a liberal state. BTW, even with this definition of 'impotent', none of these countries you mentioned have impotent majorities. Megachurches, anyone? You're free to hold your own views. But the views you express can't be called liberal by any means. Adios :) @Palahalli:

When a Majority is prevented from asserting itself and prevented from taking steps to ensure it’s own survival as a Civilization and that Majority subjects itself to such restrictions, then it has become impotent.

Not sure how such a restriction on people is consistent with the rights and freedoms guaranteed to them in a liberal state. BTW, even with this definition of ‘impotent’, none of these countries you mentioned have impotent majorities. Megachurches, anyone?

You’re free to hold your own views. But the views you express can’t be called liberal by any means. Adios :)

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