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		<title>By: Incognito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Incognito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPA believes in reciprocating in kind for services rendered, like the &#039;God&#039; its chairperson believes in, who is supposed to do so by reserving a seat in &#039;heaven&#039; for his believers.

http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Sudheendra+Kulkarni+joins+Mamata&amp;artid=4NB2t1mg6Ks=&amp;SectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&amp;MainSectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&amp;SectionName=pWehHe7IsSU=&amp;SEO=sudheendra%20kulkarni%20mamta%20banerjee%20BJP%20trinamool%20c</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPA believes in reciprocating in kind for services rendered, like the &#8216;God&#8217; its chairperson believes in, who is supposed to do so by reserving a seat in &#8216;heaven&#8217; for his believers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Sudheendra+Kulkarni+joins+Mamata&amp;artid=4NB2t1mg6Ks=&amp;SectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&amp;MainSectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&amp;SectionName=pWehHe7IsSU=&amp;SEO=sudheendra%20kulkarni%20mamta%20banerjee%20BJP%20trinamool%20c" rel="nofollow">http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Sudheendra+Kulkarni+joins+Mamata&amp;artid=4NB2t1mg6Ks=&amp;SectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&amp;MainSectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&amp;SectionName=pWehHe7IsSU=&amp;SEO=sudheendra%20kulkarni%20mamta%20banerjee%20BJP%20trinamool%20c</a></p>
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		<title>By: Veena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be a shame indeed if Kargil martyrs are forgotten. Is that what a soldiers lives (and dies) for? 

Those in power should really be forced to work in the forces to realize and &#039;enjoy&#039; the life of a soldier - and understand the true meaning of patriotism. 

It is time that politicians stopped using khadi - and flaunting it as a pseudo tokenism for being patriotic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be a shame indeed if Kargil martyrs are forgotten. Is that what a soldiers lives (and dies) for? </p>
<p>Those in power should really be forced to work in the forces to realize and &#8216;enjoy&#8217; the life of a soldier &#8211; and understand the true meaning of patriotism. </p>
<p>It is time that politicians stopped using khadi &#8211; and flaunting it as a pseudo tokenism for being patriotic!</p>
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		<title>By: Sanjay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S. Kulkarni is a communist mole that has been infiltrated into the BJP by the powers that be. He is doing a lot of damage to the party. His &quot;veiws&quot; are nothing but repackaged propaganda of the Congress against the BJP. The Congress accusses BJP of being anti-poor anti-Muslim and Hinutwawadi. And this Kulkarni idiot writes in a newspaper about BJP needing to rethink its approach to &quot;poor, Muslims and Hindutwa.&quot; It sure says a lot about the kind of &quot;strategist&quot; Advani is for having fallen for the trap. Leaders who are so easily fooled and outsmarted are not worth the mud they stand on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S. Kulkarni is a communist mole that has been infiltrated into the BJP by the powers that be. He is doing a lot of damage to the party. His &#8220;veiws&#8221; are nothing but repackaged propaganda of the Congress against the BJP. The Congress accusses BJP of being anti-poor anti-Muslim and Hinutwawadi. And this Kulkarni idiot writes in a newspaper about BJP needing to rethink its approach to &#8220;poor, Muslims and Hindutwa.&#8221; It sure says a lot about the kind of &#8220;strategist&#8221; Advani is for having fallen for the trap. Leaders who are so easily fooled and outsmarted are not worth the mud they stand on.</p>
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		<title>By: Sudhir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sudhir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry again for the off-topic news but check this out

(I do not know how true this news is because it has &quot;sources said sify&quot;)

http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?a=jgsp0qijgcf&amp;title=No_Kargil_Divas_this_year&amp;?vsv=TopHP1

Ten years after the Kargil conflict, the government wants us to forget it. 

The government has reportedly issued a circular to the armed forces once again, saying it would not be officially celebrating the 10th anniversary of the Kargil war on July 26 this year.

Sources told Sify.com that the decision was purportedly taken to avoid `rubbing salt into Pakistan`s wounds`  at a time when the peace process was once again being re-initiated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry again for the off-topic news but check this out</p>
<p>(I do not know how true this news is because it has &#8220;sources said sify&#8221;)</p>
<p><a href="http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?a=jgsp0qijgcf&amp;title=No_Kargil_Divas_this_year&amp;?vsv=TopHP1" rel="nofollow">http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?a=jgsp0qijgcf&amp;title=No_Kargil_Divas_this_year&amp;?vsv=TopHP1</a></p>
<p>Ten years after the Kargil conflict, the government wants us to forget it. </p>
<p>The government has reportedly issued a circular to the armed forces once again, saying it would not be officially celebrating the 10th anniversary of the Kargil war on July 26 this year.</p>
<p>Sources told Sify.com that the decision was purportedly taken to avoid `rubbing salt into Pakistan`s wounds`  at a time when the peace process was once again being re-initiated.</p>
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		<title>By: N Shah</title>
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		<dc:creator>N Shah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual-clear, crisp and very articulate. I only wish the BJP&#039;s campaign message was also crisp and clear. The BJP seems to have its lost its way somewhere down the line after its debacle in the previous elections. I assumed it would come this election with some real firepower and with the big guns blazing--but I was rather disappointed to see LKA crying hoarse over the weak credentials of MMS. Obviously, the BJP has lost touch with the pulse of today&#039;s generation. I do not believe that Hindutva needs to be dumped by the BJP. It can still stand its ground as far as that is concerned BUT its got to tell the people and say it articulately that Muslims arent untouchable to us but Hindutva isnt untouchable either--they have to tell middle class India that the Congress&#039;s holier than thou attitude about secularism is a sham. But first its got to set its house in order--a divide house will only give more opps to the Congress to pretty much bull doze the Opposition. I beleiev the best way to do it would be to explain what it would have done differently on every legislation that the Congress passes--then you are actually connecting with middle class India and that record stays with you for the next 5 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual-clear, crisp and very articulate. I only wish the BJP&#8217;s campaign message was also crisp and clear. The BJP seems to have its lost its way somewhere down the line after its debacle in the previous elections. I assumed it would come this election with some real firepower and with the big guns blazing&#8211;but I was rather disappointed to see LKA crying hoarse over the weak credentials of MMS. Obviously, the BJP has lost touch with the pulse of today&#8217;s generation. I do not believe that Hindutva needs to be dumped by the BJP. It can still stand its ground as far as that is concerned BUT its got to tell the people and say it articulately that Muslims arent untouchable to us but Hindutva isnt untouchable either&#8211;they have to tell middle class India that the Congress&#8217;s holier than thou attitude about secularism is a sham. But first its got to set its house in order&#8211;a divide house will only give more opps to the Congress to pretty much bull doze the Opposition. I beleiev the best way to do it would be to explain what it would have done differently on every legislation that the Congress passes&#8211;then you are actually connecting with middle class India and that record stays with you for the next 5 years.</p>
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		<title>By: What Hindus really need &#124; Writing Cave</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Hindus really need &#124; Writing Cave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] occasionally try to take part in the ongoing discussions on other blogs, like this comment, and I’ve observed that most of the responses are cacophonic and don’t address the real issue. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] occasionally try to take part in the ongoing discussions on other blogs, like this comment, and I’ve observed that most of the responses are cacophonic and don’t address the real issue. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Palahalli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palahalli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Shri Amrit Hallan although speaking against fear mongers, is actually fearful of something himself. Fearful of owning up to his Hindu national identity. 

How does one &quot;eradicate&quot; xenophobia? If I am afraid of the other, then will you address my source of fear or will you brush it under the politically correct carpet? 

The truth is that the Congress does not really fight against such &quot;xenophobia&quot; in our people. It simply does not say anything for or against it. The Congress is not a Leftist party, it is a Left-Center-Right party. How does one fight against this animal and win when one is as thoroughly confused as the BJP is? 

The Congress is like slime in a narrow bottle that cannot be removed easily. It must be forced out with a thud! That force can only be provided by a sharp ideological stance that is truly in line with our people and their manner of thinking. 

Can the BJP learn a simple lesson? Hindus live all over this great country. Hindus are diverse all over this great country. Can the BJP adapt to local Hindu mores and manners? Can they exemplify such diverseness at the National level? 

The sharp difference with the Congress will be that the BJP will not represent the Minorities as part of such diverseness. But it will represent Hindu diversity in its most fullness.

I have a test for the BJP and indeed for the RSS itself. I would like to see these organizations sacrifice an animal as part of their inauguration of sessions. Post that they may light a lamp. During recess, meat from the slaughtered animal will be distributed as prasada. 

Can the BJP garner the strength to really connect with Hindu diversity in all its verities and make a promise that all of such diversity will flourish in Hindu India? 

I do not wish to debate on the pros and cons of killing and non-killing. Frivolous trash! Hindus sacrifice animals in their Temples. These Hindus must find a voice too. Hindus of all shades must find a voice. 

Can the VHP&#039;s Dharma Sansad agree to such a course of action? Can they too be a great body of Hindu saints from all segments of our great society?

If we believe that Hindu diversity is real and Hindus are diverse because they follow paths that animate their particular mental faculties and that these paths are valid in their particular journeys, then we must agree that all these various paths must find their voices at the Hindu national level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Shri Amrit Hallan although speaking against fear mongers, is actually fearful of something himself. Fearful of owning up to his Hindu national identity. </p>
<p>How does one &#8220;eradicate&#8221; xenophobia? If I am afraid of the other, then will you address my source of fear or will you brush it under the politically correct carpet? </p>
<p>The truth is that the Congress does not really fight against such &#8220;xenophobia&#8221; in our people. It simply does not say anything for or against it. The Congress is not a Leftist party, it is a Left-Center-Right party. How does one fight against this animal and win when one is as thoroughly confused as the BJP is? </p>
<p>The Congress is like slime in a narrow bottle that cannot be removed easily. It must be forced out with a thud! That force can only be provided by a sharp ideological stance that is truly in line with our people and their manner of thinking. </p>
<p>Can the BJP learn a simple lesson? Hindus live all over this great country. Hindus are diverse all over this great country. Can the BJP adapt to local Hindu mores and manners? Can they exemplify such diverseness at the National level? </p>
<p>The sharp difference with the Congress will be that the BJP will not represent the Minorities as part of such diverseness. But it will represent Hindu diversity in its most fullness.</p>
<p>I have a test for the BJP and indeed for the RSS itself. I would like to see these organizations sacrifice an animal as part of their inauguration of sessions. Post that they may light a lamp. During recess, meat from the slaughtered animal will be distributed as prasada. </p>
<p>Can the BJP garner the strength to really connect with Hindu diversity in all its verities and make a promise that all of such diversity will flourish in Hindu India? </p>
<p>I do not wish to debate on the pros and cons of killing and non-killing. Frivolous trash! Hindus sacrifice animals in their Temples. These Hindus must find a voice too. Hindus of all shades must find a voice. </p>
<p>Can the VHP&#8217;s Dharma Sansad agree to such a course of action? Can they too be a great body of Hindu saints from all segments of our great society?</p>
<p>If we believe that Hindu diversity is real and Hindus are diverse because they follow paths that animate their particular mental faculties and that these paths are valid in their particular journeys, then we must agree that all these various paths must find their voices at the Hindu national level.</p>
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		<title>By: Bhavananda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bhavananda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Amrit Hallan:
&quot;I respect the Sangh, but there is slime everywhere&quot; - Dude, tell me a place in politics where there is any less slime?!

&quot;Xenophobia would have worked were India a small country, but it is not. &quot; - When before &#039;62 Nehru was busy smoking peace-pipe of Hindi-Chini-bhai-bhai, someone may have alerted him of the dangers that India faced then. Your last statement sounds very much like the reply Nehru might have given. Alerting the populace of the dangers it is facing doesn&#039;t amount to xenophobia. This scenario can successfully be expanded to many other threats India faces.

&quot;Right now it looks like a party of hooligans unsuccessfully pretending to be civil.&quot; - You might be pointing to Ram Sene, right? I don&#039;t remember where else one could blame BJP for indulging in hooliganism - unless one is blinded by ELM malafide propaganda, which seems to be the case here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Amrit Hallan:<br />
&#8220;I respect the Sangh, but there is slime everywhere&#8221; &#8211; Dude, tell me a place in politics where there is any less slime?!</p>
<p>&#8220;Xenophobia would have worked were India a small country, but it is not. &#8221; &#8211; When before &#8217;62 Nehru was busy smoking peace-pipe of Hindi-Chini-bhai-bhai, someone may have alerted him of the dangers that India faced then. Your last statement sounds very much like the reply Nehru might have given. Alerting the populace of the dangers it is facing doesn&#8217;t amount to xenophobia. This scenario can successfully be expanded to many other threats India faces.</p>
<p>&#8220;Right now it looks like a party of hooligans unsuccessfully pretending to be civil.&#8221; &#8211; You might be pointing to Ram Sene, right? I don&#8217;t remember where else one could blame BJP for indulging in hooliganism &#8211; unless one is blinded by ELM malafide propaganda, which seems to be the case here.</p>
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		<title>By: Amrit Hallan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amrit Hallan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The party must understand as any party should that you can’t please everyone.&quot;

This, exactly is the problem with the BJP. Merely pleasing fear-mongering Hindus is never going to bring this party to power. It&#039;ll have to take people from every background along. India is a large country. Xenophobia would have worked were India a small country, but it is not. Instead of paying heed to the RSS loonies (I respect the Sangh, but there is slime everywhere) it should project itself as a national party.

Definitely not a Congress alternative, but an entity in itself. Right now it looks like a party of hooligans unsuccessfully pretending to be civil. The Congress, on the other hand is a party of worse hooligans and thugs but successfully pretends to be civil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The party must understand as any party should that you can’t please everyone.&#8221;</p>
<p>This, exactly is the problem with the BJP. Merely pleasing fear-mongering Hindus is never going to bring this party to power. It&#8217;ll have to take people from every background along. India is a large country. Xenophobia would have worked were India a small country, but it is not. Instead of paying heed to the RSS loonies (I respect the Sangh, but there is slime everywhere) it should project itself as a national party.</p>
<p>Definitely not a Congress alternative, but an entity in itself. Right now it looks like a party of hooligans unsuccessfully pretending to be civil. The Congress, on the other hand is a party of worse hooligans and thugs but successfully pretends to be civil.</p>
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		<title>By: hari</title>
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		<dc:creator>hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The identity crisis of the BJP, so to speak, is the identity crisis of the Indian middle class Hindu voter who is steeped in political correctness and flinches even in the comfort of his home where politics is discussed. No matter how you define Hindutva, it has become a bad word to use, thanks to the Goebbelsian tactics used by the English media.

The Congress has also successfully dragged the BJP down to its own turf and set the rules for the contest. There is no way that a party like the BJP could match Congress tactic for dirty tactic and still expect to come out successful. In a sense, the disillusionment of the middle class with politics in general serves the Congress very well and so they use the media to perpetuate that myth that all politicans and political parties are equally bad and equally dirty. This conveniently sidesteps the whole &quot;ideology&quot; issue.

To say that the BJP is dying might be an overstatement. As a previous commenter has mentioned, this is only one election. There is plenty of time to regather and start from scratch.

To do that, the BJP needs to rethink its election strategy big time. And at the same time also tell the average Hindu voter in no uncertain terms that it intends to remain committed to its ideology no matter what pressures it faces while in power. Common people won&#039;t vote for BJP unless they see it to their advantage that the Congress is voted out of power. There is always a slight tilt towards the Congress whenever they&#039;re in power and the opposition has to work 10 times harder to win.

To be frank, I think that had this election occurred 6 months ago, the BJP would have ridden a wave of popular dissent against the government due to rising prices of essential commodities, cost of petrol/diesel. They might not have got an absolute majority, but still would have done enough to form a government on their own, comfortably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The identity crisis of the BJP, so to speak, is the identity crisis of the Indian middle class Hindu voter who is steeped in political correctness and flinches even in the comfort of his home where politics is discussed. No matter how you define Hindutva, it has become a bad word to use, thanks to the Goebbelsian tactics used by the English media.</p>
<p>The Congress has also successfully dragged the BJP down to its own turf and set the rules for the contest. There is no way that a party like the BJP could match Congress tactic for dirty tactic and still expect to come out successful. In a sense, the disillusionment of the middle class with politics in general serves the Congress very well and so they use the media to perpetuate that myth that all politicans and political parties are equally bad and equally dirty. This conveniently sidesteps the whole &#8220;ideology&#8221; issue.</p>
<p>To say that the BJP is dying might be an overstatement. As a previous commenter has mentioned, this is only one election. There is plenty of time to regather and start from scratch.</p>
<p>To do that, the BJP needs to rethink its election strategy big time. And at the same time also tell the average Hindu voter in no uncertain terms that it intends to remain committed to its ideology no matter what pressures it faces while in power. Common people won&#8217;t vote for BJP unless they see it to their advantage that the Congress is voted out of power. There is always a slight tilt towards the Congress whenever they&#8217;re in power and the opposition has to work 10 times harder to win.</p>
<p>To be frank, I think that had this election occurred 6 months ago, the BJP would have ridden a wave of popular dissent against the government due to rising prices of essential commodities, cost of petrol/diesel. They might not have got an absolute majority, but still would have done enough to form a government on their own, comfortably.</p>
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