Comments on: Whitewashing with a Straight Face http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/ Thu, 09 Sep 2010 08:04:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: dharmaveer http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/comment-page-1/#comment-336641 dharmaveer Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:54:52 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/#comment-336641 The following caught my attention: There was killing, but that was as much for reasons of warfare and plunder as for reasons of God and tradition. An interested reader might want to look at the distinguished historian Romila Thapar’s superb book “Somnatha: The Many Voices of a History” (Penguin, 2005). There, Professor Thapar shows us that Mahmud Ghazni’s destruction of the Shiva temple in 1026 was driven not so much by a fanatical religious belief but because his father, Subuktigin, needed money to sustain his faltering kingdom in Central Asia. Now it is certainly true, as historian Mohammed Habib put it, that there was “wanton destruction of temples that followed in the wake of the Ghaznavid army. Sabuktigin died much earlier, in 997AD. So not only is this a shameful attempt an at apology, it is factually incorrect. Indeed, the raid on Somnath was fairly late even in Mahmud's career - his first raid into India was in 1000AD. Also, pl. do visit my blog at dharmaveer.blogspot.com. The following caught my attention:
There was killing, but that was as much for reasons of warfare and plunder as for reasons of God and tradition. An interested reader might want to look at the distinguished historian Romila Thapar’s superb book “Somnatha: The Many Voices of a History” (Penguin, 2005). There, Professor Thapar shows us that Mahmud Ghazni’s destruction of the Shiva temple in 1026 was driven not so much by a fanatical religious belief but because his father, Subuktigin, needed money to sustain his faltering kingdom in Central Asia. Now it is certainly true, as historian Mohammed Habib put it, that there was “wanton destruction of temples that followed in the wake of the Ghaznavid army.

Sabuktigin died much earlier, in 997AD. So not only is this a shameful attempt an at apology, it is factually incorrect. Indeed, the raid on Somnath was fairly late even in Mahmud’s career – his first raid into India was in 1000AD. Also, pl. do visit my blog at dharmaveer.blogspot.com.

]]> By: Gujjubhai http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/comment-page-1/#comment-332123 Gujjubhai Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:11:17 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/#comment-332123 The worst part is that not only are these guys denying history, they are also whitewashing the present. I am amazed at the political and PR might of the Roman Catholic Church - any other organization that has laundered mafia money, colluded with dictators, actively engages in genocides and provide protection to child rapists within its ranks would have been in so much trouble. Continuous intellectual brainwashing done in universities by wretches like this Vijay Prashad creature is certainly a part of the explanation but there's gotta be much more to it. Meanwhile, in breaking news, yet another child porn peddling bishop is caugh - this time in Caanda. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/091001/national/catholic_bishop_porn The worst part is that not only are these guys denying history, they are also whitewashing the present. I am amazed at the political and PR might of the Roman Catholic Church – any other organization that has laundered mafia money, colluded with dictators, actively engages in genocides and provide protection to child rapists within its ranks would have been in so much trouble. Continuous intellectual brainwashing done in universities by wretches like this Vijay Prashad creature is certainly a part of the explanation but there’s gotta be much more to it.

Meanwhile, in breaking news, yet another child porn peddling bishop is caugh – this time in Caanda.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/091001/national/catholic_bishop_porn

]]> By: Ot http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/comment-page-1/#comment-331795 Ot Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:45:19 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/#comment-331795 Seadog4227, >>Has anyone ever seen a commie smile? Excellent point. Commies have no sense of humor. They are incapable of having fun, or of generating and enjoying a lighter moment. It is not just Arundhati Roy's rambling writeups that sound like a vomit of pent-up bile. It is true of all fundies and dogmatists. The underlying reason, I believe, is that hatreds, phobias and insecurities drive every moment of their existence. It is not probably a coincidence that the most interesting people are atheists. (Commies don't qualify, their pretense of being atheists notwithstanding. Leftwing ideology is a lot similar to faith-based religions). Several standup comedians in the West are atheists and the potshots they take at religion constitute some of their best work. Seadog4227,

>>Has anyone ever seen a commie smile?

Excellent point. Commies have no sense of humor. They are incapable of having fun, or of generating and enjoying a lighter moment. It is not just Arundhati Roy’s rambling writeups that sound like a vomit of pent-up bile. It is true of all fundies and dogmatists. The underlying reason, I believe, is that hatreds, phobias and insecurities drive every moment of their existence.

It is not probably a coincidence that the most interesting people are atheists. (Commies don’t qualify, their pretense of being atheists notwithstanding. Leftwing ideology is a lot similar to faith-based religions). Several standup comedians in the West are atheists and the potshots they take at religion constitute some of their best work.

]]> By: prachetas http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/comment-page-1/#comment-331780 prachetas Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:15:18 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/#comment-331780 Great to see many many new people exposing the marxist slime bags to newbies who dont know about their whole shadowy business model. I am sure that the slimes wud be tossing around all nite without mental peace for getting exposed. Down with fake experts & anti-nationals Great to see many many new people exposing the marxist slime bags to newbies who dont know about their whole shadowy business model. I am sure that the slimes wud be tossing around all nite without mental peace for getting exposed. Down with fake experts & anti-nationals

]]> By: OverTheHill http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/comment-page-1/#comment-331773 OverTheHill Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:33:45 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/#comment-331773 @seadog4227: The circular validation is a form of garbage recycling. Sort of like coroutines without a basis, you have to wait for the stack to overflow for the whole circus to crash. - s @seadog4227:
The circular validation is a form of garbage recycling.
Sort of like coroutines without a basis, you have to wait for the stack to overflow for the whole circus to crash.

- s

]]> By: seadog4227 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/comment-page-1/#comment-331624 seadog4227 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:32:15 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/#comment-331624 The way this group of "eminent" historians and frauds ( Romila Thapar, Harbans Mukhia, Irfan Habib, Vijay Prasad, Angana Chatterji, Akhila Raman, Amartya Sen, Gargi Chakravarti etc) assist each other and are also assisted by the Slimes of India, NDTV, Loutlook etc is almost predictable. You see , ALL OF THEM are experts on EVERYTHING, including Hinduism.It does not matter that they don't know sanskrit, have no formal learning, or basic knowledge, but Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels have given them divine ,oops, deep inspiration. Has anyone ever seen a commie smile? The way this group of “eminent” historians and frauds ( Romila Thapar, Harbans Mukhia, Irfan Habib, Vijay Prasad, Angana Chatterji, Akhila Raman, Amartya Sen, Gargi Chakravarti etc) assist each other and are also assisted by the Slimes of India, NDTV, Loutlook etc is almost predictable. You see , ALL OF THEM are experts on EVERYTHING, including Hinduism.It does not matter that they don’t know sanskrit, have no formal learning, or basic knowledge, but Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels have given them divine ,oops, deep inspiration. Has anyone ever seen a commie smile?

]]> By: Ot http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/comment-page-1/#comment-331447 Ot Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:42:19 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/#comment-331447 AA, >>The reasons can no longer be solely attributed to an external cause- Islam; but have to be looked within as well. One important reason for the fall of the Hindu civilization is the complete Hindu ignorance of Abrahamic faiths. Hindus tend to look at another belief systems through an Indic lens, and attribute to it with the same spiritual value and goodness as their own. This attitude is touted as a virtue by some; in matter of fact it is stupidity. Islam and Christianity are not Sikhism and Jainism. Theologically, their absolutist truth claims are unappeasable except by unquestioning acceptance. Politically, they are exclusivist, expansionist faiths that feign a willingness to coexist only when in adversity. Their real aim is world domination and destruction of other faiths. Hindus never understood this, and still do not understand it. AA,

>>The reasons can no longer be solely attributed to an external cause- Islam; but have to be looked within as well.

One important reason for the fall of the Hindu civilization is the complete Hindu ignorance of Abrahamic faiths. Hindus tend to look at another belief systems through an Indic lens, and attribute to it with the same spiritual value and goodness as their own. This attitude is touted as a virtue by some; in matter of fact it is stupidity. Islam and Christianity are not Sikhism and Jainism. Theologically, their absolutist truth claims are unappeasable except by unquestioning acceptance. Politically, they are exclusivist, expansionist faiths that feign a willingness to coexist only when in adversity. Their real aim is world domination and destruction of other faiths. Hindus never understood this, and still do not understand it.

]]> By: Incognito http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/comment-page-1/#comment-331379 Incognito Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:13:30 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/#comment-331379 nice pics linked by Amrit Hallan. perhaps those pics frightened the dhimmi regent to say that muslims would have first right to nation's resources. nice pics linked by Amrit Hallan.

perhaps those pics frightened the dhimmi regent to say that muslims would have first right to nation’s resources.

]]> By: Anon http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/comment-page-1/#comment-331357 Anon Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:13:09 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/#comment-331357 Typo in post above - please read "civilization" instead of "civization". First line. Typo in post above – please read “civilization” instead of “civization”. First line.

]]> By: Anon http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/comment-page-1/#comment-331356 Anon Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:10:14 +0000 http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/09/25/whitewashing-with-a-straight-face/#comment-331356 AA asks - "What was it about their civilization that made them vulnerable to Islamic conquests? The reasons can no longer be solely attributed to an external cause- Islam; but have to be looked within as well." The major reason for the downfall of Hindus was their civization, their human values, their compassion. Kshatriyas were mostly rulers, and they always fought with their code - man to man, armed to armed. Nowhere in pre-islamic history do we find that women and children were killed by Kshatriyas. Hindu kings defeated the invading muslims who had already run over Persia (modern day Iran) and destroyed the Persian civilization (the Parsis fled and sought shelter in India) but they failed to annihilate the defeated islamic armies. It took the Hindus more than 1000 years to learn that muslims can only be defeated by the final solution - and the Marathas under Shivaji and the Sikhs under Guru Gobind Singh did exactly that. Did not take any prisoners. Did not leave a mullah alive to preach the jihad as written in the koran some time later. The Marathas were muslim hunters, and two of Shivaji's generals were responsible for cleaning up central India - Holkar (king of Indore), and Shinde (later on Scindia) from Ujjain to Gwalior. You can go through the site below for a history of jihad, not only against Hindus, but the entire humanity. http://historyofjihad.org AA asks -

“What was it about their civilization that made them vulnerable to Islamic conquests? The reasons can no longer be solely attributed to an external cause- Islam; but have to be looked within as well.”

The major reason for the downfall of Hindus was their civization, their human values, their compassion. Kshatriyas were mostly rulers, and they always fought with their code – man to man, armed to armed. Nowhere in pre-islamic history do we find that women and children were killed by Kshatriyas. Hindu kings defeated the invading muslims who had already run over Persia (modern day Iran) and destroyed the Persian civilization (the Parsis fled and sought shelter in India) but they failed to annihilate the defeated islamic armies.

It took the Hindus more than 1000 years to learn that muslims can only be defeated by the final solution – and the Marathas under Shivaji and the Sikhs under Guru Gobind Singh did exactly that. Did not take any prisoners. Did not leave a mullah alive to preach the jihad as written in the koran some time later. The Marathas were muslim hunters, and two of Shivaji’s generals were responsible for cleaning up central India – Holkar (king of Indore), and Shinde (later on Scindia) from Ujjain to Gwalior.

You can go through the site below for a history of jihad, not only against Hindus, but the entire humanity.

http://historyofjihad.org

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