The Lion that Became a Lamb

The Indian media overall is a whore with none of the ethics of a whore, a fact that’s pretty much self-evident now. Yet there are very few exceptions, and once in a long while somebody in this well-oiled and smoothly-functioning corporatized whoredom gets stung by the call of conscience and for a change, begins to tell the truth. That’s when the carrot-and-stick trick, as old as mankind, is employed. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: India is not a democracy and the Indian media is only as free as the government allows it to be. And no other party has perfected this trick as well as the Congress.

Case in point: DNA & Aditya Sinha. More specifically, this irrational, illogical, and factually-vacuous rant against Narendra Modi, which is presented, quite accurately under a “column” entitled reductio ad absurdum.

Aditya Sinha really attracted attention first with his fiery anti-UPA articles when he was head of the New Indian Express based out of Chennai. His election analyses, his boxing punches thrown at an 87-year old relic, and his relentless attacks on the Spineless Wonder and the Bosserina and her Brat were all right on the money.  And then he joined DNA after R Jagannathan (aka the Barkha Dutt of FirstPost) quit. At DNA, Sinha continued the job he was doing at New Indian Express kicking the UPA’s ass at regular intervals.

And then on September 18, he wrote about Ambika Soni’s adventures in arm-twisting. He closed the piece with a heroic:

As for being critical of the ruling party, isn’t that what being the “watchdog of democracy” is all about? And which self-respecting journalist would support an oligarchic government bogged down by corruption? This does not mean that DNA attacks only for the sake of attack…The government apparently feels no shame that an emerging power like India should be witness to such clumsy attempts at arm-twisting the media. From our side, however, all news will continue to be treated on merit, even if it shows the government in poor light. For DNA, it serves the public interest to expose faulty decision-making, malfeasance and corruption. Loss of business can be measured, but the loss of credibility cannot. Above all, that someone in government tried to be petty and vindictive is, to us, validation that we were doing our job right.

Pretty valiant eh? Now let’s take him on his word and examine how he performs with regard to his self-stated courageous parameters:

  • all news will be treated on merit even if it shows the government in poor light
  • serves public interest to expose faulty decision-making, malfeasance and corruption
  • loss of credibility cannot be measured…validating that DNA was doing its job right.

A good instance to examine his performance is the aforementioned piece of prosaic rampage that he went on on November 13 against Narendra Modi. This is as sudden, as random, and as surprising coming from Sinha given that he has never taken any stand on the Gujarat Chief Minister so far. Because it’d be cruel to attribute this sudden screed to Sinha’s temporary suspension of sanity, we need to conclude that the heat that Ambika Soni generated from her ministerial cabin had a huge part to play behind Sinha’s mindless vilification of Modi. And so, let’s begin the examination.

You don’t need to go far because Aditya Sinha gets it completely wrong from the first sentence:

This week’s court conviction of 31 people for crimes including murder during the 2002 post-Godhra riots in Gujarat makes it clear that state Chief Minister Narendra Modi will never be prime minister of India.

Sinha echoes this familiar refrain that’s typically employed by semi-brained analysts and braindead TV divas and alcoholic academics: that Modi wants to become the PM. Till date, even as I write this, Modi hasn’t expressed any such intention. Dear Sinha, do you really want a career in reading Modi’s mind? But even on purely logical grounds, how can anyone relate this conviction with Modi given that Modi wasn’t named an accused in any riot? Oh, Sinha also needs to stop assuming that his readers are idiots: since when has something like a conviction stopped an Indian politician from becoming a minister? Here’s a partial list, Mr. Sinha: Lalu Prasad Yadav, Sheila Dikshit, Jagdish Tytler, and the who’s who of DMK. Do these names mean anything to you especially when used in connection with “conviction” and “minister?” It’s pretty surprising that Aditya Sinha chooses to diss Modi than laud the judiciary in Gujarat that convicted these 31 persons. Exactly how many convictions have happened in the tons of Congress-sponsored communal riots from Independence till date? Forget riots in the plural and let’s take just one riot. The 1984 “Rajiv-Gandhi earth shakes” riots.  Can you, Mr. Sinha tell us how many were convicted in that bloodbath? The number surely isn’t 31. Hell, I’ll be surprised if it’s even 13. Mr. Sinha, your colleagues in the media routinely yelp about how they have “grave suspicions” about the impartiality of the judiciary in Gujarat. Now that it’s been proven otherwise, why do you still choose to adopt the Path of Selective Blindness? Who’s more serious about justice, Mr. Sinha?

This ladies and gentlemen, is the nature of Sinha’s venom-spewing and I’m still on the first sentence.

Starting with the second sentence, and onwards, Sinha sends his imagination on a crazy F1 circuit wildly zipping at insane speeds and spitting out words like “egoistical,” “aggression,” and “ruthlessness” along the way. The fact that he’s lucky to live in a poisonous atmosphere that lets him get away with mere invectives than evidence helps his ranting a great deal. But wait, he does give a semblance of “evidence” when he says:

…indeed he is contemptuous about making shows of generosity towards Muslims, as evidenced during his fast (an attempt to appropriate Anna Hazare’s effective anti-Congress tool) when he refused to wear a cap offered by a Muslim.

This is like saying DNA is a crap newspaper because it’s not printed on UV ultra gloss paper. It’s a different matter that this very piece by Sinha is evidence itself that DNA is indeed, a crap paper but let’s let that go. So, Aditya Sinha’s equation seems to be this: Secularism=Wearing a Skullcap. By this token, the Congress party, Lalu, Mulayam and the whole despicable political spectrum has perfected the Art of Wearing Skullcaps and throwing Iftaar parties to an extent that leaves the poor minorities…well, poor. 60+ years of minority-generosity—a generosity, which for 45+ years was bestowed the Congress party itself—has resulted in the poor minorities actually regress from worse to worser. But Modi refusing to wear a skullcap suddenly becomes THE ACID TEST that proves he’s not generous to Muslims. This also passes off as analysis.

Oh and then the Gujarat Riots Cottage Industry’s latest heartthrob, Sanjiv Bhatt. According to Sinha’s non-existent reasoning,

…no matter how compromised the credibility of police officer Sanjiv Bhatt may be, Modi’s government’s attempts to discredit him mirror the clumsy attempts by the Congress party to discredit Anna Hazare’s team.

What are you exactly advocating Mr. Sinha? That the rogue cop’s crappy credibility is not a matter of concern? That the Gujarat government must not act against his vile deeds because it’ll be perceived as being vindictive if it acts? Are you really that dumb or ignorant of the facts of Bhatt’s sorry deeds? Bhatt is facing heat for crimes he committed in 1990, 1996, and 1997, years when Modi was not even in Gujarat politics. Congress party’s screw-Anna-everyday antics was—and remains—harassment. Gujarat government’s action against Bhatt is an investigation that has strong legal grounds. If Aditya Sinha can tell us the brand of banned substance he’s smoking, we can refer it to the NCB.

By now, we’re familiar with Aditya Sinha’s brand of demonizing Modi—let it be said that it’s definitely not an analysis or argument. A pattern, a kind of formula emerges: discredit every demonstrable positive achievement of Modi with two parts of invective and three parts of credit-theft. Ok, I made up that two and three parts bit. But you get the picture.

Exhibit XXX:

India Inc can’t stop gushing about how Modi…will be the one to take India to the next stage of rapid economic growth, but these are contestable claims. I wonder whether or not Gujarat, which has traditionally seen high economic activity in India, would have grown without Modi at the helm. I also wonder how many Gujarati industrialists are willing to concede that their rise and success is due to Modi. In any case, the crony capitalism and the corporate complicity in big-ticket corruption during past few years are evidence of how little India Inc really cares for India.

Of course, everything is contestable in Modi’s case. If Modi says the Sun rises in the east, it immediately becomes contestable because Modi said it. That’s right: the Gujaratis’ business acumen ensures the state’s prosperity even if the government stops power and water supply, digs up roads, blows up highways and ports…the Gujaratis’ business acumen will miraculously generate power on its own, get water on its own, and the rest. Mr. Sinha, ever heard of something called government policy-making? That is what makes a state or country prosperous. Policy and its clean, honest, and transparent enforcement is what makes the government a facilitator of economic (and other) progress. I know you know all this but you’re on that illegal trip. The last I heard :

  • nobody ever asked Gujarati industrialists who they attribute their success to
  • the said Gujarati industrialists haven’t told any such thing
  • even if a few have, it’s their business and views and not good for Sinha’s already-smoked-up sensibilities to second-guess them.

India Inc is made up of hundreds of thousands of businesses. Mr. Sinha, are you seriously telling us that the ENTIRE India Inc is complicit in corruption? If you do, that itself says a lot about how you perceive people in general. Yad bhavam tad bhavati: you perceive something according to how you’re mentally wired: if one is a seasoned debauch, the word “pussy” doesn’t automatically conjure up the image of a cat. Also, crony capitalism is another of those bastard children that was begotten when  Nehru put his socialist fantasies into practice.

The worst from Sinha’s scurrilous pen comes next . For no…err…logical reason, he draws up a parallel between Rick Perry and Narendra Modi.

Anybody who thinks that Modi is the man to rescue the nation from the Congress should also look at the parallels thrown up by the coming US presidential elections. President Barack Obama has unfortunately had to hold office during a time when the global economy has spluttered and faces further “lost years”. His leadership has been found wanting by his voters and all precedent points to his being a single-term president — if he faces a strong opponent. Trouble is, Republicans don’t seem able to find a strong candidate to take on Obama. In the run-up to their primary process, each Republican candidate looks more ridiculous and unelectable than the next. An apt analogy might be that Narendra Modi is the Rick Perry of Indian politics. Except that Rick Perry did not preside over the murder of nearly a thousand Texans.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is fiction. Here’s why:

  • India is not America. The internal realities confronting the two nations are vastly different, not comparable by any yardstick.
  • Obama inherited a badly-mauled economy, whose destructive seeds were sown during an earlier Democrat’s Presidency—Clinton’s. India for the most part, has been mauled—and continues to be mauled—for about 50+ years by a single dynasty. This is a mauling and a loot unparalleled in any nation that calls itself a democracy.
  • This mauling has exploded in the nation’s face under UPA 2.0 and the aftermath of this explosion is hurtling India down the path of irreversible destruction in small bits everyday.
  • America has a functional democracy. India has a mobocracy or a mafiocracy if you will.
  • America’s current problem is rooted in the greed of some rich people and thanks to some institutions and people that are still robust and honest, there can be some course correction provided tough measures are taken. India’s problem is rooted in the greed and power-hunger of one dynasty, which is propped up by thugs and charlatans and convicted criminals whose career progression led them to occupy powerful berths in the nation’s cabinet.
  • The only exception to this thuggery, etc is Narendra Modi whose record as Chief Minister for 3 consecutive terms has been solid with no corruption and staggering economic growth.

As for analogies, the fact that Aditya Sinha has compared Narendra Modi with Rick Perry proves that he, Aditya Sinha himself, can be compared to Rick Sanchez. Mr. Sinha, go look him up.  If you’re unwilling or lazy or still under the influence of that vile substance, check out profile #49 here. Rick Perry is a conservative Christian who belongs to the Republican Party. Does Aditya Sinha seriously imply that Modi is a “conservative Hindu?” Is there even something like a “conservative Hindu” in the Indian political parlance? The chances of me still having faith in Sinha’s sanity—despite this I-hate-Modi piece—hinge dangerously on his answer to this question.

And hey, Mr. Sinha, while we’re on comparisons, why don’t you think it’s fair to compare Rahul Gandhi with Sarah Palin? Or will Big Momma Ambika Soni take your paper’s case again if you do that and have you write yet another imposition that tasks you with suspending your sanity yet again? Dissecting the result of one such suspended-sanity was unfortunate enough for me. Please spare me. And your readers. And yourself.

446 comments for “The Lion that Became a Lamb

  1. neelkanth
    December 18, 2011 at 11:13 AM
  2. cricfan
    December 18, 2011 at 10:54 AM

    Aditya Sinha writes in the DNA thus:
    “You may have heard of a family with dynastic pretensions that ruled a nation as if it were private property; where the press was gagged to Orwellian consequences of both brain-freeze and absurdity; where ministers spy against Cabinet rivals and plot the downfall of opponents; where the mother ordered heavy-handed reprisals on citizens protesting government incompetence and corruption; and where the son, in charge of Youth Affairs, was known for whispered scandals of rape. ”

    http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/column_aditya-sinha-new-brothels-same-old-whores_1627164

  3. Tima
    December 7, 2011 at 4:20 PM

    @rowdy ranger

    Bet your dad recites mein kampf in your ear after the act. Jeez.

  4. Ranger
    December 7, 2011 at 4:13 PM

    Bet that was no different from what your dad used to do to you, huh Vinay ? Just that your dad used to lovingly recite the Das Kapital in your ear after the act.

    What ? He still does it to you ? Jeez.

  5. Ranger
    December 7, 2011 at 4:11 PM

    By the way Vinay, is it true that your Lahori boyfriend did the job on you in a Lahori mosque built on a hindu temple ? And did the maulvi there chant the azaan in your ears while your Lahori boyfriend was having fun with you ?

  6. Ranger
    December 7, 2011 at 2:44 PM

    Why would I need to go after Lahore mosques to redeem my hindu faith ? Why not Istanbul or Jakarta ? Whats so special about Lahore dear Vinay ? One of your boyfriends lives there or something like that ?

  7. Vinay
    December 7, 2011 at 2:24 PM

    @Ranger

    Its ok you would rather settle for something thats doable and within your capabilities. I can fully understand your concern for your health which would be in some trouble if you went to redeem your Hindu faith by going after mosques in lahore which were built on temples.

  8. Ranger
    December 7, 2011 at 2:08 PM

    “Thanks Ranger. BTW there are enough mosques built on temples In Lahore with far far far more evidence of being built of demolished temples than the babri masjid. Condolences to you that you can’t get at them just yet and are happy with doing the needful when you have a 5:1 majority.”

    Thanks for the condolences chutiye, but they are unwarranted. Been a long time since Lahore was a part of India. Had I been born 60-70 odd years ago rather than 20 odd years ago, I would probably care.

  9. Vinay
    December 7, 2011 at 11:49 AM

    Ranger says:
    December 6, 2011 at 11:46 PM
    “BTW wishing all u “nationalist” bloggers a very happy 19 anniversary of the babri masjid demolition”

    Haan bey chutiye, thank you. And my sincere condolences to you and your boyfriend.

    Thanks Ranger. BTW there are enough mosques built on temples In Lahore with far far far more evidence of being built of demolished temples than the babri masjid. Condolences to you that you can’t get at them just yet and are happy with doing the needful when you have a 5:1 majority.

  10. Arvind
    December 7, 2011 at 5:27 AM

    Vinay and Tima,

    You expose your lack of intelligence as well if you cannot figure out basic errors from the context. Latching on to an error which can easily be corrected by you without me having to explain it to you (or do you admit you are too dumb for that?) shows that you just used it to evade the other points. Clearly, you did not know that LTTE was a Marxist-Leninist group.

    And you are the ones in angst at the smashing up of LTTE. It is Susan Roy who is wailing about it, not the Hindus. She has taken her fable of the pregnant woman being killed to Sri Lanka and her claim about using voter lists to hunt down innocent people has also been applied to Sri Lanka.

  11. Ranger
    December 6, 2011 at 11:46 PM

    “BTW wishing all u “nationalist” bloggers a very happy 19 anniversary of the babri masjid demolition”

    Haan bey chutiye, thank you. And my sincere condolences to you and your boyfriend.

  12. Vinay
    December 6, 2011 at 10:37 PM

    @All

    BTW wishing all u “nationalist” bloggers a very happy 19 anniversary of the babri masjid demolition

  13. CC
    December 6, 2011 at 4:38 PM

    >>websites and blogs like these, which will be deemed as being “communal” and “fascist”, will be no longer allowed on the internet

    Hey this is already happening now, the blogger Chaitanya was slapped with a lawsuit and made to apologise to shrieking burkha, lapdog of the dynasty.

  14. Tima
    December 6, 2011 at 2:29 PM

    @Arvind

    Communists and Marxists are allies..ROFL.

  15. Ranger
    December 6, 2011 at 1:04 PM

    By the way, if Kapil Sibal and the present Indian government have their way, websites and blogs like these, which will be deemed as being “communal” and “fascist”, will be no longer allowed on the internet, the people behind such websites and blogs will be jailed, and even poor, harmless commentators like us will be persecuted, if we do not agree to bow before Her Royal Highness Sonia Mata and wash the feet of her son, the 43 year old Youth Icon also known as Prince Charming.

    So folks, the clock is ticking….

  16. Vinay
    December 6, 2011 at 12:23 PM

    In India, the Communists and Marxists are allies. You truly show your ignorance in these matters.

    @Arvind

    Thanks for pointnig out my ignorance

  17. CC
    December 6, 2011 at 9:33 AM

    Have to agree with Ava. People keep succumbing to trolls who keep repeating the same lies in different words. It can’t be that hard to ignore them?

  18. Karumadikkuttan
    December 6, 2011 at 6:54 AM

    @Vinay, did u read this in your own link??
    /….although the rebel group has
    many Christians in its
    ranks and sections of the Tamil Christian clergy
    strongly back the rebel
    cause…/

  19. Karumadikkuttan
    December 6, 2011 at 6:34 AM

    @Vinay,
    Loneranger is Tima or Tima is Loneranger..
    look at comments section of older posts of Sandeep.
    @Loneranger, u resident troll, how many times you got exposed here in this blog?? Don’t masquerade as a intellectual you fool..

  20. Arvind
    December 6, 2011 at 5:04 AM

    @Tima /*** Marxism and christanity has no connection. How does being a marxist make one christian ? Communism doesnt believe in any religion. ***/

    This shows your lack of understanding of current affairs as well as of history. The Maoists in Orissa are supported by the evangelist Jimmy Carter. The Communists in former USSR permitted the Christian church to exist but banned all other religions. The inventors of Marxism (Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels) were both Christians. MN Roy, the founder of Indian Communism, praised Christism. LTTE itself was a Marxist-Leninist group that bumped off any Hindu Tamil who showed signs of being popular and appointed only Christians as top leaders. Maoist Susan Roy is a Christian and her school was until recently named as, to translate loosely, “dead body of Jeebus.”

    In India, the Communists and Marxists are allies. You truly show your ignorance in these matters.

  21. Arvind
    December 6, 2011 at 4:56 AM

    Comrade Vinay,

    No use giving us a couple of conspiracy theory websites run by commies as “evidence” Hindus running LTTE. LTTE described itself as a Marxist-Leninist group. Self-description matters the most in these things. And we Hindus applaud the destruction of LTTE. It is you (I mean you personally), the DMK-type people and other Christist Maoists like Susan Roy who wail about the destruction of the LTTE.

    If you really do not support the LTTE, then support Hindus who celebrate the destruction of LTTE and trash Susan Roy for wailing about its destruction.

  22. Tima
    December 5, 2011 at 10:17 PM

    @rowdy ranger

    You want discussions ? hahaha. A douchebag like you who bashed up girls in pub wants a discussion? You are such a coward that you beat up girls and then on net you went to barkha’s twitter to abuse. We come here for discussions and dialogue but you with your hatred for one community continues to derail any discussions. When someone disagrees with you, you will indulge in abuses and after that you pretend to be a saint. You are the nityananda type of saint who wears saffron but is a blackguard and a rotten egg.

  23. Vinay
    December 5, 2011 at 9:48 PM

    @Ranger

    And you learnt the meaning after someone used it on you ??

  24. Ranger
    December 5, 2011 at 9:17 PM

    Vinay : “I’m not surprised you find “trolls” to be mad dogs who ought to be shot and killed seeing as filling posts with stuff such as “gaandu”, “chutiye”, “whore” etc etc qualifies as a sane discussion in your opinion.”

    Those words are exclusively used in my posts meant for you and your boyfriend Tima. And no, I have no intention of indulging in “discussions” with either you or your boyfriend. One need not have a “discussion” with a mad dog to shoo it away.

    Also, I am glad you finally learnt the meaning of the term “chutiye”. It describes you well.

  25. Vinay
    December 5, 2011 at 9:15 PM

    anonymous says:
    December 5, 2011 at 6:15 PM
    “Sorry saar, I didn’t know this guy is your man saaar, I thought he was bluffing saaar”
    Vinay , when did you visit Chennai. This saar lingo reminds me of my great days in Chennai. BTW , if you are a Tamilian, then you can say saar, bar baar.

    @Anand

    Hey anand . someone here interested in your ethnicity.

  26. Vinay
    December 5, 2011 at 8:50 PM

    @Ranger

    I’m not surprised you find “trolls” to be mad dogs who ought to be shot and killed seeing as filling posts with stuff such as “gaandu”, “chutiye”, “whore” etc etc qualifies as a sane discussion in your opinion.

  27. SK
    December 5, 2011 at 8:36 PM

    @Ranger @Ava:

    Ranger – I do not agree with your point that we should stop coming here because of the trolls. If we do that, only we lose – as it is, there are very few people / blogs that write about the truth.

    Prefer your / Ava’s other choice though. just stop responding, and let them bark their throats out.

    SK

  28. ava
    December 5, 2011 at 7:08 PM

    @Ranger
    Just do not respond to them, but people keep doing so, thinking that they are having a “discussion” which emboldens the trolls even more, I myself have broken that rule….Most people as you see avoid responding to them, that is the way to go….I hope people again post intelligent comments as I used to read a lot of good comments on this blog and certainly learned from some commentators….

  29. ava
    December 5, 2011 at 6:57 PM

    above typo ‘came up with it’
    Also some have to learn to reason beyond something is bad because “whites” came up with it, skin color is a dubious distinction, and signifies nothing and should not be brought in any discussion, we are Hindus and we should know better that that…People do not realize how they argue like Tima/Loneranger types when they say something is bad because “whites” came up with it, that is just idiocy, if something is bad, give reasons for it….

    People just ignore these trolls, let them say whatever and display their own stupidity, I think that was agreed upon a while back, we just have to stick to that rule, even the entertainment value of responding to them has long gone and this is getting too dull to continue….

  30. ava
    December 5, 2011 at 6:39 PM

    And people please do not say that something is bad because “whites” came up with it, it is merely imitating the stupidity of unemplyed Tima/Longeranger types and their method of arguing, all the more stupid as they live on the payrolls of NGO’s. I recall reading somewhere in the comments someone said that Marx is bad because he was “white”, what the hell does that mean? Completely empty comment. Say why Marxism is bad and give your reasons, not that it is bad because “whites” came up which is arguing at the level of Tima/Loneranger….

  31. Tima
    December 5, 2011 at 6:34 PM

    @rowdy ranger

    Why don’t start your own blog? Only people who will visit are your partners in crime namely, muthalik, togadia, uma bharati , goons, hoodlums, hooligans and rotten rascals.

  32. Tima
    December 5, 2011 at 6:31 PM

    @Rowdy Ranger

    When barkha banned you from commenting on her twitter page, you went to town crying injustice. Now, before people ask what is injustice here, let me explain according to this rowdy guy she should respond to his abuse. When she saw this chap is incapable of sensible conversation, she promptly banned him. This guy posted that he has been banned some million times on his twitter. When people ignored his ranting, he started writing that it was injustice and not fair, she was scared of his superior and logical points, she is a muslim loving person etc,. Now, this chap has been exposed here and hence wants those who exposed him to be banned. Case of kettle calling the pot black.

  33. Ranger
    December 5, 2011 at 6:22 PM

    Ava and others, I think we – the readers of this blog, should get together and declare that we will not comment here, not participate in any discussion here, as long as these mad dogs are not killed… i.e., these trolls are not banned or blocked. I suppose a collective boycott is the only way to wake up Sandeep.

  34. Ranger
    December 5, 2011 at 6:18 PM

    I dont see any point in visiting this blog as long as Sandeep does not ban these trolls. But if he is technologically incapable of banning 1 or 2 specific people, the least the other people here can do is to totally stop responding to them. The more you feed them, the more they grow. Talk past them, ignore them.

    But to be honest I cannot blame the trolls for doing what they do. One cannot blame a mad dog from biting people and causing rabies. One can only blame the local authorities for not shooting and killing the mad dog. So when a person dies of rabies, it is not the mad dog that should be put in prison, but the local authorities.

    I am seriously disappointed with Sandeep. I have asked him to ban these mad dogs several times. But he lets them play, with complete freedom. People will simply stop coming to this blog. As simple as that.

  35. Tima
    December 5, 2011 at 6:17 PM

    @ava

    Stop your fake act. Your fake act may earn brownie points in front of those white people who come to your house for parties (like your hubby’s boss). It is people like you sitting outside who keep this pot boiling for their own selfish reasons. Shame on you. Pandits dont need your sympathy or those tears you shed after applying glycerin.

    People like you are like vermin whose life is centred around other’s tragedy.

  36. anonymous
    December 5, 2011 at 6:15 PM

    “Sorry saar, I didn’t know this guy is your man saaar, I thought he was bluffing saaar”
    Vinay , when did you visit Chennai. This saar lingo reminds me of my great days in Chennai. BTW , if you are a Tamilian, then you can say saar, bar baar.

  37. ava
    December 5, 2011 at 6:08 PM

    Yes this has just become a series of responses to Mullas/Commies like Loneranger…No one wants to read comments here anymore as there is nothing but responses to these people who ask the dumbest questions about Hinduism, so dumb that one wonders why people even bother so respond, and people think it is their job to respond to their idiocy, and think they are scoring points by responding to fools. This blog used to have some intelligent comments, I do not see any comments other than those that try to respond to Vinay/Loneranger, and the comments merely go on in circles, because it is foolish trying to respond to fools. And no matter what people write, these fools only get emboldened as they are set in their thinking. As for instigating Pandits, thats hilarious, coming from Yasin Malik’s disciple, talk about who does inciting people with plenty of help from porki land….Got plenty of family members and friends who still remember their homes and the lives they had and keep that memory alive, no need to instigate anyone as their memories and what happened to them is not going to die out so easily, however much unemployed Mullahs/Commies try to erase that, it has not been erased for 3000 years and it is not going to easily be wiped out by genocide. The amount of hatred these Mullah/Commies have is nothing short of scary as their comments amply display…

  38. Vinay
    December 5, 2011 at 6:05 PM

    @ava

    Who is Loneranger BTW.

  39. Tima
    December 5, 2011 at 5:27 PM

    @ava

    Ohoo here comes the prima donna, the history teacher, expert on vedas, the one who can shed tears for pandits at the drop of the hat, the one who will instigate pandits and poison their minds, the one whose essays here have put to sleep many a person.

    Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones at others.

  40. ava
    December 5, 2011 at 5:17 PM

    Oh man, you guys are still responding to Vinay/Tima/Loneranger…..What has happened to the intelligent comments one used to read sometimes on this blog? No wonder no one comes here anymore, its just flooded with responses toTima/Vinay/Loneranger’s garbage…

  41. Vinay
    December 5, 2011 at 3:27 PM

    sorry for the repetition

  42. Vinay
    December 5, 2011 at 3:23 PM

    Comrade Vinay,

    >> nato-apologises-for-pakistani-deaths_n_1114834.html

    LOL, comrade. Make that a double-LOL.

    Reminds me of an anecdote I heard long ago. There apparently was this honest police inspector whose lot it was to get shunted from one place to another, because he was honest. So in a new place he caught a local goon harrassing college girls. The goon, he knew, was related to a political biggie, and that he would be out of lock-up within no time. So he took the goon to the station, and violated the human rights of his ass with such a wild abandon as the goon would never forget in his life. Soon enough, as expected, the cop got an angry call from the politico. What do you think the cop did? He profusely, abjectly apologized! “Sorry saar, I didn’t know this guy is your man saaar, I thought he was bluffing saaar”, etc.

    @anand

    Check out this analysis and let me know your thoughts on it.

    http://news.in.msn.com/pakistan/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5640351

  43. Vinay
    December 5, 2011 at 3:23 PM

    Comrade Vinay,

    >> nato-apologises-for-pakistani-deaths_n_1114834.html

    LOL, comrade. Make that a double-LOL.

    Reminds me of an anecdote I heard long ago. There apparently was this honest police inspector whose lot it was to get shunted from one place to another, because he was honest. So in a new place he caught a local goon harrassing college girls. The goon, he knew, was related to a political biggie, and that he would be out of lock-up within no time. So he took the goon to the station, and violated the human rights of his ass with such a wild abandon as the goon would never forget in his life. Soon enough, as expected, the cop got an angry call from the politico. What do you think the cop did? He profusely, abjectly apologized! “Sorry saar, I didn’t know this guy is your man saaar, I thought he was bluffing saaar”, etc.

    @anand

    Check out this analysis and let me know your thoughts on it.

    http://news.in.msn.com/pakistan/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5640351

  44. Vinay
    December 5, 2011 at 3:01 PM

    @bbc

    Contradictory to your post that the LTTE had backing from the church, other reports point to the involvement of the VHP/RSS in preservation of the “Hindu” culture of the Sri Lankar Tamils, who made up the bulk of the separatists.

    http://www.thenews.co.in/index.php/component/images/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=107:rss-vhp-back-ltte-allied-group&catid=69:news&Itemid=83

    http://india.indymedia.org/en/2002/04/1069.shtml

    The first one is from 2008 while the second report is from 2002.

  45. Vinay
    December 4, 2011 at 1:43 AM

    @bbc

    I only asked you as I asked Neelkanth whether or not i satisfactorily responded to the said query. I intended no metaphysical or other implications related to belief or unbelief.

  46. bbc
    December 4, 2011 at 1:33 AM

    @Vinay:

    “@bbc

    Hope you aren’t left in any doubt now regarding the status of rama as “legal person” in the eyes of the indian judiciary”

    I never was. If you are implying that your post did anything to change my understanding of the case – it didn’t. But, I can understand the jealousy that stems from the fact that Ramayana is not considered “myth” – all that effort put in by pseudo-intellectuals going to waste does put a dent in the confidence of “believers” like you as opposed to “non-believers” like me. The only saving grace is that when the order is reversed with me being a “believer” and you being a “non-believer”, I actually respect you and talk like an adult.

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