Brazen Bias

It looks like Salil Tripathi, of late, has been in the news for all the wrong reasons. First it was this piece on Center Right India that examined his claims of being a libertarian, pro-free market, etc that led to some delightful exchanges on Twitter. And then he wrote an opinion piece in Mint titled Incredible Impunity, which should actually be titled Brazen Bias.

Of all the responses I read to this piece, only Kanchan Gupta’s two-part series that takes apart Salil’s hitjob on Modi is the best.

Salil Tripathi’s entire article on Mint seems to be motivated by the singular agenda of maligning Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi. All of us are entitled to our biases about persons, and ideas and it’s good to express our biases openly because that fosters honest debate and discussion. That doesn’t mean we must allow our personal biases to triumph over facts like Salil Tripathi has demonstrated.

The first instance of bending facts is in the opening sentence where Salil Tripathi claims that Modi failed to protect the lives of “thousands of Gujaratis (a large majority of them being Muslims.)” The official death toll is 790 Muslims and 254 Hindus, a fact that Sriprakash Jaiswal, the then Union Minister of State for Home Affairs told the Upper House in May 2005. One also wonders why Salil Tripathi found the need to include the religion of a certain group of people who were killed especially after his note that Gujaratis were killed. Salil Tripathi also casually claims that 58 Hindus were “killed,” which is a gross understatement: those 58 Hindus were burnt alive in cold blood.

And then he says that it’s unfair to compare the post-Godhra riots with the 1984 Sikh massacre in Delhi. And it’s true: the two cannot be compared not because of the reason Salil Tripathi gives but for something that’s more fundamental. The 1984 Sikh massacre was an organized pogrom by the Congress party while the post-Godhra riots was a reaction whose provocation was the ghastly roasting alive of 58 innocent Hindus. A pogrom is where members of a specific religious/ethnic group are singled out for mass murder. This definition applies 100% to the 1984 Sikh pogrom. In case of the Gujarat riots, 58 Hindus were first roasted alive and then in the riots that followed, 790 Muslims and 254 Hindus were killed. Calling this a pogrom is twisting the definition of the term. Among others, Amnesty International called the Gujarat riots a pogrom against Muslims. And Salil Tripathi is an ex-employee of Amnesty International. Even if you don’t link these two together, it’s still inexplicable why Salil Tripathi has swallowed their terminology uncritically. Sans the train-burning provocation, the Gujarat riots wouldn’t have occurred.

Salil Tripathi who chastises Modi while sounding like a Rajiv Gandhi-apologist, conveniently omits one important fact: while losing his mother to the bullets of her own bodyguards is terrible, as Prime Minister, he could’ve conducted himself with dignity by appealing to and ensuring peace by taking preventive measures instead of proclaiming that the 3000-odd innocent Sikhs deserved their death with “When a giant tree falls, the earth below shakes.” We also wonder why Salil Tripathi thought it fit to mention the religious identity of Indira Gandhi’s bodyguards. Apparently, for Salil Tripathi, Modi deploying the army within 20 hours since the riots began is not enough but the 3 days of relentless Sikh-bloodletting—no police or army was deployed –is somehow excusable because Rajiv Gandhi was in grief, a grief that cost 3000 Sikhs their lives and left the survivors and their future generations scarred. If only Salil Tripathi had read Jarnail Singh’s I Accuse… he would not—if he was human—muster the guts to write stuff like Rajiv Gandhi was in grief.

It also helps to have a historical sense: since Independence, every communal riot that has occurred in different states has occurred when there was a Congress government ruling those states:

· 1969 Gujarat riots where 65% of the riot victims were Muslims

· 1983 Assam riots where 2000 Muslims were killed because Indira Gandhi wanted early elections

· 1989 Bhagalpur riots where 800 Muslims were killed

· Of course, the 1984 pogrom against Sikhs

· 1992 Mumbai riots where 575 Muslims were killed.

The post-riot investigation reports in each case hold the Government machinery responsible for not controlling the riots in a timely manner. Salil Tripathi ignores all these documented instances and seems to be on a mission to demonize Modi for his perceived incompetence in managing the riots even when there’s evidence to the contrary.

This sort of selective quoting and concealing inconvenient facts runs rampant throughout Salil Tripathi’s piece. In trying to take credit away from Narendra Modi for Gujarat’s economic success, Salil Tripathi uses higher GDP to “prove” that Maharashtra is better than Gujarat. But let’s look at the ground reality. Maharashtra’s infrastructure is horrid—horrid roads, power shortage (this was once a power-surplus state), farmer suicides, stagnant agriculture and political scams galore. Salil Tripathi’s claim that “several states besides Gujarat have shown triple digit growth” is outright false. He needs to name exactly one state that has attained triple digit growth. He follows this up with a selective claim that Gujarat faces a deficit without mentioning the fact that in 2010, RBI has named the selfsame Maharashtra as the state with the highest fiscal deficit. And Uttar Pradesh, which comes next in Salil Tripathi’s list of “high economies” ranks #2 in the deficit department. Equally selective is his final claim that several states including some in the North East have surplus power, so it’s not a big deal for Gujarat. The states that have surplus power apart from Gujarat include Himachal Pradesh, Sikkim, Tripura, Delhi, and Dadra & Nagar Haveli. The combined population of these states is about 27 million while Gujarat’s population alone is 60 million. Kanchan Gupta nails Salil Tripathi’s power-surplus jugglery even better:

Mr Tripathi mocks at Mr Narendra Modi’s claim that Gujarat will soon be in a position to provide power to power-starved States. He overlooks the fact that Gujarat is the only State which can today boast of 24×7 power supply to industry, farms and homes. It’s absurd to compare Gujarat’s power generation capacity (GSEB alone produces 4,996 MW) to that of north-eastern States. The former has heavy industrial and agricultural demand for power; the latter has virtually none.

Salil Tripathi then asserts something that clearly reveals his irrational hatred of Modi. Salil Tripathi, by asserting that some people “excuse” Modi’s “role in the 2002 riots,” assumes that Modi was personally involved and/or was complicit in orchestrating the riots. That he states this despite the fact that not one court has named him even an accused shows how much Salil Tripathi respects Indian judicial processes. And in the same breath, he also says that 

SIT’s report, not yet public, appears to suggest that a case implicating Modi in the Ehsan Jafri murder may be difficult. Threshold for evidence in criminal trials is understandably high, and proving complicity is not easy.

What kind of a circus clown-act is this? Modi is responsible for the riots. It is difficult to prove Modi’s complicity. What exactly is your position, Salil Tripathi? If that’s not enough, he further says how the riot-victims shouldn’t let bygones be bygones because it insults their justice-seeking quest. But pronouncing a person as guilty when he’s not named in even one case is a worse insult. Or is there a separate yardstick for justice where Modi is concerned, Salil Tripathi? Indeed, compared to all other riots, the Gujarat riot cases have moved speedily with convictions taking place. Throughout the investigations, trials and depositions, Modi has always maintained that he has faith in the law of the land and is willing to abide by it. But Salil Tripathi disregards all this and paints Teesta Setalvad as a victim of Modi. Again, the same cloak-and-dagger trick: why doesn’t he mention that Teesta now faces several charges, which puts her on equal footing with extortionists and criminal intimidators? But no: in Salil Tripathi’s selective spectacle she’s a “victims’ rights activist (sic).”   Which is consistent because in Salil Tripathi’s world, nothing that Modi ever does can be good despite evidence to the contrary.

Salil Tripathi ostensibly goes about in a long-winded way to contend that Narendra Modi is not a fit candidate for being the next Prime Minister. However, this contention appears in his piece towards the end as an afterthought. It appears that the Modi as a candidate for Prime Minister was simply an excuse for Salil to indulge in mindless Modi-bashing built on a vile edifice of distorted facts, selective quoting of facts, skullduggery with numbers, and using allegations as truth. It’s in poor taste and insults the intelligence of his readers. And reinforces our faith in Salil Tripathi as a spin-master who by writing this piece has lost his spinning abilities.

92 comments for “Brazen Bias

  1. Charulatha
    April 30, 2012 at 11:52 AM

    The term Resident Non-Indian (RNI) was coined by Rajiv Srinivasan for the jholla-wallah brigade within India. However, Salil Tripathi and Pankaj Mishra belong to the special export-quality breed that is the Non-Resident Non-Indian (NRNI). They make a good living abroad from playing up to the Indian stereotypes favored by their white liberal massas (a.k.a. the useful idiots), and tap into the extensive Indian Leftist network that exists within the UK and the US. However, they are very careful not to cross the lines drawn by their host countries for fear of biting the hand that feeds them.

  2. satya shetty
    April 19, 2012 at 6:04 AM

    the Amnesty international is a christian missionary subsidiary.Its just trying to protect the interests of the west in the third world.Its selective and biased.For it the lives of some vote bank minorities alone are precious.

  3. Anand
    March 19, 2012 at 8:50 PM

    Comrade Arup,

    >>FYI, a trial court while upholding the “Godhra conspiracy theory” has already handed out punishments for some of the perpetrators of the train burning incident.

    Yes, but that’s despite the best efforts of those who for several years tried to project that as an accident. These are the same people who claim to fight for *justice* for riot victims. I’m curious to know what people like you were doing while this bunch was trying to deny that very justice to victims of train burning: accusing those who resisted the distortion as, well, let me guess, “fanning hate and anger against Muslims”, by any chance?

  4. Malavika
    March 19, 2012 at 4:53 PM

    @Anup,
    “If you want to move the discussion forward constructively, please feel free. But you don’t seem to be so inclined”

    Sanctimonious nonsense.

    anup: “you are so used to dishing out your standard Congress/ELM vilification”
    Malaviaka: pointing out facts about English Language Mafia does not constitute vilification.

    anup: Where have I even defended the “vilification” of the media?

    Malavika: So, you agree that ELM media is biased. Then why accuse me of vilifying media? I am just pointing facts, like Radia tapes, unaccounted wealth, etc.

    Earlier from 36:
    @Anup,
    “Can you show where exactly have I done PR for the Congress party? Did I bring up the topic of Congress or did you?”

    Malavika: You don’t need to bring up Congress just bash their opponents like the PACs do in US during elections.
    Why bash one party(BJP) and some people who are threat to Dynasty on a thread about media bias?

    No wonder, you cannot continue the conversation.

  5. anup
    March 18, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    Malavika,

    If you want to move the discussion forward constructively, please feel free. But you don’t seem to be so inclined.

    Your replies sound that of, I am sorry to say, a brainwashed person who just reacts in pre-set ways when a negative view about her beliefs/opinion is aired; completely oblivious to the basic point that I have made (wrt rabble rousing). Where have I even defended the “vilification” of the media? And your “deduction” skills are poor. How do you not know that I am possibly not a card carrying member for the Great Indian Left?

  6. Malavika
    March 17, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    @Anup,
    “Looks like you have some comprehension issues or perhaps you are so used to dishing out your standard Congress/ELM vilification that you can’t follow an argument.”

    My, My look whose talking? You are so dense that you don’t understand that pointing out facts about English Language Mafia does not constitute vilification. You still did not explain why your Media wallas are so squeaky clean(except Pioneer folks like Gopi Krishhnan).

  7. Malavika
    March 17, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    @Anup,
    “Can you show where exactly have I done PR for the Congress party? Did I bring up the topic of Congress or did you?”

    You don’t need to bring up Congress just bash their opponents like the PACs do in US during elections.
    Why bash one party(BJP) and some people who are threat to Dynasty on a thread about media bias?

    Why not ask how the media honchos like Shekar Gupta amassed so much wealth? Or ask about Radia tapes and Barkha? Simple it does not serve your agenda.

    So, by deduction you are a shill for Congress and Dynasty.

  8. CC
    March 16, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    So menka, turns out you’re a BJP agent after all.

  9. menka
    March 16, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    Mr.Anup

    The person commenting with the nick “Ranger” is a Deranged individual. He is paranoid that anyone who disagrees with him or the blog master is loneranger.

    It is extremely distressing that if the people here call themselves as Nationalist but have no concerns on the way forward for the country. If parties like SP and TMC are allowed to rule the roost, it will spell the death knell for any kind of reforms. Instead of blaming everyone as a congress agent, it will be prudent if the people really introspect on how to revive BJP.

  10. anup
    March 15, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    Comrade Anand,

    You are right. You never did talk about any party. I naturally assumed that since the article to which this blog post refers to involves the party and Modi.

    FYI, a trial court while upholding the “Godhra conspiracy theory” has already handed out punishments for some of the perpetrators of the train burning incident. So, what’s with your irrational fear of political parties projecting the incident as an accident? It is a matter that has and is being sought to be resolved by the courts.

    What I am trying to say is that it is sad enough that a group of people died an unnatural death as a consequence of actions by another group of people. One doesn’t need to indulge in what seems to be rabble rousing and hateful insinuations that someone else grossly understated the incident when the issue has been resolved in the court. To what end is what I am trying to understand.

    Btw, It’s difficult to have a discussion when you seem to be only interested in getting off with your repeated accusation of “Comrademanship” and baseless random allegations.

  11. Anand
    March 15, 2012 at 8:40 PM

    Comrade Anup,

    >>. The reasons that you support your party do not find priority within the party itself!

    This is very puzzling. Where did I talk about any party or my support for it or of either having anything to do with my interventions in this thread?

    I got involved because I believe that all humane, decent human beings would like murder to be treated as murder so that the killers are punished and victims get justice. I understand that treating murder as murder may not necessarily be a priority with political parties and that for some, in fact, projecting murder as accident, in the hope of getting votes, may be the priority. What has that got to do with me?

    Let us say in 2012 CPIM wins big in Gujarat. Will that victory prove that the Godhra train burning was no act of murderous maniacs but simply a routine case of a train car igniting itself? Contrariwise, suppose that the Shiv Sena wins big in 2014. Will it prove that the 790 or so Muslims killed in 2002 is a figment of imagination of “rabble-rousers” and “hate-mongers” like you, especially since you harp only on these 790 pretending as if 250 Hindu victims never existed?

    If I must muster some of that finely brewed outrage you exhibited above, I will have to ask: what kind of a hate-monger denies humanity to victims of murder on the basis of his or their political affiliation!?

  12. anup
    March 15, 2012 at 8:11 PM

    Malavika,

    Can you show where exactly have I done PR for the Congress party? Did I bring up the topic of Congress or did you? Where did I go in a tirade against the BJP or Modi? Looks like you have some comprehension issues or perhaps you are so used to dishing out your standard Congress/ELM vilification that you can’t follow an argument.

    Ranger,
    How mighty sure you are that Loneranger is Anup! I bet you make similar assumptions you make about everything that does not agree with you.

    General note: Please discuss the issue and the points raised. Don’t get into the habit of getting off referring to whosoever who disagrees with you as Congi agent or such like.

  13. Ranger
    March 15, 2012 at 5:26 PM

    Looks like the troll Loneranger (who is here as “Anup”, “Menka”, “Mats” etc. is still unemployed :(

  14. Malavika
    March 15, 2012 at 4:48 PM

    @Anup,

    Could to stick to topic, rather than doing PR for Dynasty. I think the reason Dynasty wallas hate Modi is because he is a threat to Yuvraj.

    And, it is not a case of me not seeing shimmering nuances of grey. This is an article about media(ELM) acting as Congree party’s dirty tricks dept. And you Mr., instead of showing how/why media is squeaky clean go on a tirade about BJP, Modi etc.

  15. anup
    March 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM

    Malavika madam,

    Could you possibly have imagined a life less in black and white; perhaps in shades of grey? One word about your favourite party and you brand me as a Congress supporter.

  16. Malavika
    March 15, 2012 at 2:45 PM

    @ anup,

    A touching, sincere shill for Congress and Dynasty. Failure of Brahmastra (Yuvrani) is clearly causing a lot of heartburn!

  17. anup
    March 15, 2012 at 12:51 PM

    Comrade saab,

    Chillax. You are just all over the place.

    If you want to take the fight to these media people/column writers/NGOs that you so detest (& who you think are responsible for whatever mess), then make your emotional outburst count. The reasons that you support your party do not find priority within the party itself! Those guys don’t even have the balls to try to take a chance on their party’s seemingly only hope (Modi). The current crop of leaders in your party is no better than that those of other parties.

    Yahan internet forum pe cheekhne chillane se kuch nahin hoga. You have to fight this battle on the ground if you truly believe that Modi has a chance of becoming the Prime Minister.

  18. Anand
    March 15, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    How do you do comrade Anup.

    Your surprise, feigned shock, question and exclamation marks, rhetoric, the angry accusations of “hate” and “rabble rousing” — all suggest to me that you were flying off the handle in a fit of rage, because the author’s conclusions did not fit your prejudice. Most often it is those consumed by hate that see hate in others; not only are they the first people to accuse others of hate, but they are also the ones who bandy this word more often. “Hate” is a word widely and loosely used in the lexicon of leftwingers, Christian proselytizers, and of late, even Islamists — verily those whose ideologies exterminated millions of people throughout history, precisely out of hate! In the modern day, accusing the opponent of “hate” is the tactic employed by these blokes to rationalize their own negative emotion: they probably even want to believe that the fault lies with the other person, not them. Indeed, the accusation is leveled as a response to unanswerable facts, because facts rile the accuser up, and the accuser has to reconcile his irrational stand by seeing that irrationality in the other. Comrade Loneranger is not fully in bloom in this thread yet, or you will see him using the word “hate” in every second sentence.

    In the tons of literature on Gujarat, the victims of train burning are a little mentioned fact. Comrade Setalvad, the true-blue, championship-winning hate-monger, justified the train burning, but that was before the riots started. Afterwards, of course, the tune changed, because those who talk about train burning are to be abused as justifying the riots. But the love for the burners of the train did not cease. Comrades’ activism made sure that the train burning case did not even go to hearing for a long time. It was locked up in litigation in SC. In the mean time a faux inquiry was instituted, an ex-judge was bought with the price of a luxury junket abroad to certify that the train burning was only an accident. For several years, every journo that sold his soiled ass for a bottle of whisky routinely reported in every Gujarat related story that “Hindutva ideologues accuse Muslims of burning the train, but a commission of enquiry instituted by the ministry of Railways found that the train burning was an accident”.

    Did this pornography of turning the murder — of 20 children, 20 women, and mostly aged and infirm men who couldn’t escape a burning coach — into “accident” enrage you comrade? Does it make you see hate?

    It is in the context of this obscenity that was perpetrated for years that Sandeep points out Comrade Tripathi’s sleight of hand. The sly journo is continuing the mischief of not mentioning the cause of the train’s burning. If Sandeep’s pointing this out riled you up so much, the first thing you should have done is go look up the original source and figure out for yourself what the comrade said. But nope, you don’t have time for it. You are so worked up into *hate* by the truth that Sandeep mentioned that you have to scream hate at him pronto.

    Had you looked up the original source, you’d've saved yourself some embarrassment. Sandeep actually watered down what Comrade Tripathi said. You foolishly leveled the charge that Sandeep was “misleading” readers. Those who intend to mislead don’t make original source so accessible comrade, as Sandeep has done in this post. But then again, the propensity to keep accusing the other, instead of decently apologizing, is a sign of latent guilt.

    >>Just to put my point of view across again; my point is that the author’s post smacks of rabble rousing; notwithstanding Comrade Tripathi’s “gross understatements”.

    Of course, of course.

    I’m reminded of a famous trick of the typical Indian journalist. The journo pulls a stunt, and is caught out by readers. Do you think the journo responds by countering the facts cited by those who caught him out? No, he solemnly, defiantly proclaims: “I stand by my story”.

  19. anup
    March 15, 2012 at 7:29 AM

    Comrade Anand,

    So, it is true that one’s state of mind influences their perceptions of external stimuli through a process of projection (in this case your reading of my reply to you suggests a mind deeply immersed in hate seeing others being hateful as well). Can you point where exactly in my reply “did I fly off the handle in a fit of rage” “after (having) woken up to the fact that Comrade Tripathi did understate murder”?

    Thanks for being charitable (albeit in a convuluted way); perhaps it will grow into something useful quality beneficial to you.

    Just to put my point of view across again; my point is that the author’s post smacks of rabble rousing; notwithstanding Comrade Tripathi’s “gross understatements”.

  20. Anand
    March 14, 2012 at 9:36 PM

    Comrade Menaka,

    My ideology is to be a decent human being. I suggest that you give it a try too.

    I give a rat’s posterior to what BJP will or will not gain in 2014. I am amused that your pavlovian reflex to what I wrote is to predict doom for BJP. Does Congress pay you to go to websites such as these and run an anti-BJP psy-op campaign? Kind of like, you know, to demoralize the enemy? If the answer is yes then I must admit you are a smart woman who is supporting hubby by earning some money on the side instead of being a lazy housewife. If it is no, then consider the disservice you’re doing to your children by being an obsessed nut on the net instead of spending quality time with them.

  21. Anand
    March 14, 2012 at 9:27 PM

    Comrade Anup,

    Even after you are woken up to the fact that Comrade Tripathi did understate murder, you want to fly off the handle in a fit of rage about someone else’s alleged hate, instead of confronting yours. I’d like to be charitable, and assume that this is your way of camouflaging embarrassment.

  22. menka
    March 14, 2012 at 5:26 PM

    Mr/Ms. CC

    With due respects to you, kindly ask the blog master to provide you my mail id which I have entered and then you can send me a mail. Once I get your mail, I will give my number to you and you can then confirm my identity. Now, let us back to business. I am no slave of anyone, I am a patriotic Indian citizen who is concerned about parties which divide people on the basis of caste and religion. I am concerned about people who fall into the trap and believe those politicians who fuel hatred and get votes.

    The real loser in the recently concluded elections is the BJP. U.P is the state which needs to propel them to power in 2014 but going by the vote share and seats, it seems they will become a also-ran in 2014. I have given my seat wise analysis of the country as a whole and posed a question to people here to let me know where BJP will get seats but to my great disappointment none responded because as Anup says it is easy to attack people who disagree with you on a personal level but you cannot provide a reply on how they will get the seats and from where.

  23. anup
    March 14, 2012 at 4:49 PM

    Comrade Anand,

    First of all, thanks for pointing out what Sandeep got wrong and what was actually written in the original article by Salil Tripathi. Putting something in quotes and suggesting that the words in quotes belonged to the original article tantamounts to misleading the readers.

    Take a good look at the few lines I wrote in my earlier post; where does it show that I had anything to say about anyone’s bigotry? Rabble rousing is what I talked about. And then you top up that lack of comprehension with some out of place assumptions about a topic I am unconcerned about (bigotry)! Blind hate and rage; you aren’t any better than those you accuse.

  24. CC
    March 14, 2012 at 4:27 PM

    menka, you’re fooling no one that you’re really Loneranger, the loyal slave of the dynasty whose ‘unfinished product’ Rahul just lost his dear mummy rae bareli and amethi. If people in these two towns can wake up and smell the garbage, I’m baffled why you can’t.

  25. menka
    March 14, 2012 at 2:44 PM

    Mr. Anand

    With paratroopers like you around, BJP is sure to reach its nadir in 2014. The manner in which people like you twist facts to suit your ideology is beyond belief.

  26. Anand
    March 14, 2012 at 2:08 PM

    >>Does it f*&^%ing make a difference whether people were killed or were burnt alive in cold blood!!!???

    Wow, you seem very riled up, Comrade Anup. Very very angry at all the bigotry, looks like.

    As a matter of fact, there is a difference between “killed” and “murdered”. People might get killed, as in, you know, an accident, or they met get murdered, as in a terrorist attack.

    Being the sort of comrade who gets riled up at what you see as bigotry, I’m sure you’re also angry at those human manifestations of pieces of turd who tried to project Godhra train burning as an accident. They would argue with you that the 58 Hindus were killed, not murdered.

    Well, in fact, Sandeep got it wrong. Salil Tripathi doesn’t say that those 58 were killed. Here is what he says:

    “…. in the 2002 riots that followed the burning of a train compartment in Godhra in which 58 Hindus died …”

    IOW, Comrade Tripathi sidesteps the issue of whether those people were deliberately “killed”, or, just, well, “died”. Perhaps Comrade Tripathi’s intent is to spread sweetness and light.

    I don’t like it either when rabble-rousers get one set of people all riled up against another set of people. The more skilled rabble-rousers do it under the garb of seeking justice for the victim. Recall the famous incident in which Comrade Arundhati Roy concocted om-carving fiction? She is a text-book example of a hate peddling rabble-rouser.

    Here is another. Look at the drfit of this dude here http://dcubed.blogspot.in/2012/02/ddgujdiary.html here http://dcubed.blogspot.in/2012/03/ddgujdiary-2.html and here http://dcubed.blogspot.in/2012/03/ddgujdiary-3-dehlol.html . He seems to claim what he is presenting are his truthful observations — not stuff he is making up to fan anger and hate against Hindus. But reading those alleged recordings, do you get the sense that a fourth of the victims “killed” in the riots were Hindu? And then the chap caps it all with: http://dcubed.blogspot.in/2012/03/ddgujdiary-4-ahmedabad-camp.html . Read the thrilling culmination: a guy, apparently walking around in saffron robes in what apparently is a Muslim dominated neighborhood, is attacked. Wow, at along last. You’d think our man is acknowledging something here. Could he really be a rabble-rouser? Read further. The attacked “Hindu” is rescued! Apparently by a Muslim! A woman! No, this is not your usual secular fiction written purposely for winning the Matador prize; fiction where good stuff happens amidst all the crap that’s going on, and the do-gooders defy purported stereotypes. (Which judge cannot help giving an award for such well-meaning fiction?) This allegedly is real stuff our man allegedly saw with his own real eyes. Bad guys — Hindus — kill innocent Muslims. Can Muslims not get angry? Of course yes. But there are also good people among Muslims, and so there’s a happy ending. Sanity prevails, Hindus are saved.

    Take your finely minted anger to that blog, comrade. It is bigotry so sophisticated, so almost perfected to an art form, that it needs discerning critics like you!

  27. Anand
    March 14, 2012 at 2:06 PM

    >>Does it f*&^%ing make a difference whether people were killed or were burnt alive in cold blood!!!???

    Wow, you seem very riled up, Comrade Anup. Very very angry at all the bigotry, looks like.

    As a matter of fact, there is a difference between “killed” and “murdered”. People might get killed, as in, you know, an accident, or they met get murdered, as in a terrorist attack.

    Being the sort of comrade who gets riled up at what you see as bigotry, I’m sure you’re also angry at those human manifestations of pieces of turd who tried to project Godhra train burning as an accident. They would argue with you that the 58 Hindus were killed, not murdered.

    Well, in fact, Sandeep got it wrong. Salil Tripathi doesn’t say that those 58 were killed. Here is what he says:

    “…. in the 2002 riots that followed the burning of a train compartment in Godhra in which 58 Hindus died …”

    IOW, Comrade Tripathi sidesteps the issue of whether those people were deliberately “killed”, or, just, well, “died”. Perhaps Comrade Tripathi’s intent is to spread sweetness and light.

    I don’t like it either when rabble-rousers get one set of people all riled up against another set of people. The more skilled rabble-rousers do it under the garb of seeking justice for the victim. Recall the famous incident in which Comrade Arundhati Roy concocted om-carving fiction? She is a text-book example of a hate peddling rabble-rouser.

    Here is another. Look at the drfit of this dude here http://dcubed.blogspot.in/2012/02/ddgujdiary.html here http://dcubed.blogspot.in/2012/03/ddgujdiary-2.html and here http://dcubed.blogspot.in/2012/03/ddgujdiary-3-dehlol.html . He seems to claim what he is presenting are his truthful observations — not stuff he is making up to fan anger and hate against Hindus. But reading those alleged recordings, do you get the sense that a fourth of the victims “killed” in the riots were Hindu? And then the chap caps it all with: http://dcubed.blogspot.in/2012/03/ddgujdiary-4-ahmedabad-camp.html . Read the thrilling culmination: a guy, apparently walking around in saffron robes in what apparently is a Muslim dominated neighborhood, is attacked. Wow, at along last. You’d think our man is acknowledging something here. Could he really be a rabble-rouser? Read further. The attacked “Hindu” is rescued! Apparently by a Muslim! A woman! No, this is not your usual secular fiction written purposely for winning the Matador prize; fiction where good stuff happens amidst all the crap that’s going on, and the do-gooders defy purported stereotypes. (Which judge cannot help giving an award for such well-meaning fiction?) This allegedly is real stuff our man allegedly saw with his own real eyes. Bad guys — Hindus — kill innocent Muslims. Can Muslims not get angry? Of course yes. But there are also good people among Muslims, and so there’s a happy ending. Sanity prevails, Hindus are saved.

    Take your finely minted anger to that blog, comrade. It is bigotry so sophisticated, so almost perfected to an art form, that it needs discerning critics like you.

  28. CC
    March 14, 2012 at 9:34 AM

    Oh yeah, hindus were “killed” and they are trying to deliberately provoke the muslims by saying that they were roasted alive. These “Hindus” who were mostly innocent children and women. How dare the Hindus provoke the muslims by using stong words to describe F%$#^ing FACTS.

    Needless to say being roasted alive also was entirely their own fault in the first place. Who told these hindus they were free to travel to Ayodhya? Who allowed them to travel in trains at all? They should have just been hiding in their homes…

  29. anup
    March 14, 2012 at 9:02 AM

    “Salil Tripathi also casually claims that 58 Hindus were “killed,” which is a gross understatement: those 58 Hindus were burnt alive in cold blood.”

    Does it f*&^%ing make a difference whether people were killed or were burnt alive in cold blood!!!??? What kind of a rabble rouser makes such statements? Is it not suffice to say that people were killed? Is that a gross understatement by any stretch of imagination? Are you trying to fan anger and hate against Muslims or what? Just makes me wonder if all this rabble rousing is due to the diet of hate one has been fed upon!

  30. ItAcHi
    March 13, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    @ avinash…yeah dude..I have heard…but some scholars also interpret it as a means to use in self defense only,and not as practiced today by the ummah today.. :)

  31. Jooske
    March 12, 2012 at 12:28 PM

    Salil Tripathi is accused of :

    bending facts

    conveniently omitting one important fact

    having no historical sense

    ignoring all the documented instances

    selective quoting and concealing inconvenient facts

    claiming several states besides Gujarat have shown triple digit growth without naming them.

    Equally selective is his final claim that several states including some in the North East have surplus power

    Asserting that some people “excuse” Modi’s “role in the 2002 riots.

    Disregarding that Modi has always maintained that he has faith in the law of the land and is willing to abide by it and paints Teesta Setalvad as a victim of Modi.

    And to end it all…

    It appears that the Modi as a candidate for Prime Minister was simply an excuse for Salil to indulge in mindless Modi-bashing built on a vile edifice of distorted facts,selective quoting of facts, skullduggery with numbers, and using allegations as truth.

    How does he end up as a journalist? and one without shame?

  32. Avinash
    March 12, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    ItAcHi, have you heard of Al Taqiyya, the Islamic Art of Deception?

  33. ItAcHi
    March 12, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    I type my first sentence in malayalam, throughout I refer to kerela, and warrier has made the astonishing observation that I misspelt kerela to “mask my origins”.

    Secular “intellectual”.ROFL. Keep connecting dots my friend.

    Oh and btw, your arguement, and counter responses have been done to death in this blog itself,let alone the internet. It gets pretty boring really.

    And regards annonymity, for all I know, you could be a ali or mohammad hiding behind a warrier name paid to discern the identities of those who post here.So long.

  34. Jooske
    March 12, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    This article also remind me of this saying:

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
    Aldous Leonard Huxley

  35. Avinash
    March 11, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    @ Hari, when ItAcHi wrote >>>da warriere, njaan ninakku oru scenario kaanichu tharam………………it is obvious that he is from Kerala and some spelling mistake in the subsequent lines cannot hide that fact as you are alleging. Then why my “Warrier kutty” omitted the “tail” in the second message? Was it due to the belated realization that an Ambalavasi can never become a “Warrior” ?

  36. Jooske
    March 11, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    I know that this article has been mentioned before but I liked this sentence from the article.

    “A one-to-one mapping of Sikh riots with Gujarat would tell you where the hypocrisy lies and how our media is biased towards their reportage.”

    http://www.beingcynical.com/2012/03/from-84-delhi-to-2002-gujarat-hypocrisy.html

    Should the world brazen be added before biased?

    Could some one tell Sanjeev Sablok the point about Sandeeps article.(It not about Modi)

  37. pdpant
    March 11, 2012 at 1:49 PM

    Very well-written analysis by Sandeep of the mad rantings of sickman Sulill Tripathy.

  38. Avinash
    March 11, 2012 at 12:26 AM

    @ Hari, when ItAcHi wrote >>>da warriere, njaan ninakku oru scenario kaanichu tharam………………it is obvious that he is from Kerala and some spelling mistake in the subsequent lines cannot hide that fact as you are alleging. Then why my “Warrier kutty” omitted the “tail” in the second message? Was it due to the belated realization that an Ambalavasi can never become a “Warrior” ?

  39. Avinash
    March 10, 2012 at 11:58 PM

    @ Hari,

    >>>>>>>both your efforts are vitiated by careless language which belies a genuine intention to reason, which I or anyone can do nothing about>>>>>>>> mone, Dinesha, what are again farting from the mouth? I am not a pen-pusher who makes a living out of every unfortunate incident.

    Will you ever dare to write anything about the Wagamon Camp or the death of five muslims at Nadapuram while making bombs on the eve of last Assembly Election? Or about the Marad Riots (you might not have even heard of the Moppila Lahala of 1921 and the brutal conversions by Tippu Sultan during 30 years of his occupation of Malabar, I presume).

    Interestingly enough, the frequent fights at Nadapuram are between our Comrades (the Ezhavas, to be precise) and Muslims. What has Modi got to do with that?

  40. Raghu
    March 10, 2012 at 8:03 PM

    Gospel according to Mr. R.B.Sreekumar:

    “This would have left no ground for India’s enemies within and without to exploit the discontentment of the riot victims and their community and endeavour to subvert their patriotic allegiance to their motherland. We know that in every major explosion, killing innocent citizens allegedly engineered by the Islamic Jehadists, in the country the revenge for anti-minority violence in Gujarat in 2002 was projected as a reason”.

    Can any one tell us why one Bangalore-born engineer Kafeel Ahmed and his friend, an Iraqi doctor Bilal Abdullah drove an explosive-laden vehicle into Glasgow airport? What harm was done to him by the people of UK? On the other hand, they had given him an opportunity to study in their country and better his prospects and see what he was trying to give them in return.

    I want to die for Allah: Kafeel’s last e-mail
    http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/aug/20glasgow.htm

  41. CC
    March 10, 2012 at 5:03 AM

    Did sanctimonious Sabhlok make a squeak when the organizer of the 1984 pogrom against innocent Sikhs, Rajiv Gandhi was not only made the Prime Minister, but was awared the Bharat Ratna??

  42. CC
    March 10, 2012 at 4:55 AM

    This Sabhlok guy seems to be filled with such vitriol and hate, more than even the trolls here. He surpasses loneranger in his anti-Modi stance. And he mocks anyone who doesn’t lick his boot praising his stinking ideas to the skies. Sick fellow and sick mind. He needs help.

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