Ashis Nandy lives in and endorses a world where an open call for murder is termed as a diplomatic communication and an expression of grievance becomes an act of extremism. But that isn’t all. Anything that Hindus do to assert their self-respect, to hold their heads high, to get educated, to attain a respectable standard of living, to lead a prosperous life, to adhere to their cultural and religious traditions…every single thing becomes an expression of militancy that somehow threatens what he calls “Hinduism versus Hindutva.”
However, Ashis Nandy reserves special hatred for middle class Hindus. More specifically, his militant ire gushes furiously forth towards prosperous middle class Hindus. The largest concentration of this class in India is in the state of Gujarat. Also, majority of Hindus who have migrated abroad have done exceedingly well for themselves. Needless, Nandy doesn’t spare them either.
Gujarati middle class Hindus are prosperous because—and apart from their entrepreneurial spirit—they have steadfastly adhered to millennia-old Hindu values of thrift, hard work, strong family ties, trust, a sense of community as a binding force, and religious traditions that help constantly reinforce these values. Thus, no matter what government ruled Gujarat after Independence, Gujaratis as a class of people thrived not just in India but wherever they went in the world. This success was despite the successive Congress governments who sought to and split Gujarati society along caste and communal lines. However, what Narendra Modi did was to tap into these values, articulate them forcefully, and to make Gujaratis realize that these were things meant to be proud of. His articulation was caste and community neutral—when was the last time you heard Narendra Modi seek electoral mandate on caste lines? Modi supporters across the nation—and across the world—support him not because he belongs to X or Y caste in Gujarat. His articulation didn’t remain merely on paper or on the dais: they emerged in the form of a complete, positive transformation of the face of Gujarat in pretty much every sphere of human activity.
And it is why Ashis Nandy’s visceral hatred for him is unparalleled. Equally, it exposes Nandy as a racist par excellence.
Ashis Nandy’s tirade against Narendra Modi began—sigh—with the 2002 Gujarat riots when he wrote a venomous piece entitled Obituary of a Culture. That essay is a study in racist filth presented as social and political commentary. When he wrote that, Gujarat was still in the throes of riots, and Modi hadn’t completed even a year in office and thus had no track record either as a Chief Minister or even a politician of any sort. But because the riots happened when he was the Chief Minister, the scavengers of human misery already declared him guilty and began executing reckless hit jobs on him. However, because they knew nothing about him, they had to find something that tied the riots to him. In Ashis Nandy’s case, this something happened to be the dreaded Gujarati Hindu middle class. Dreaded because they were prosperous Hindus. Thus, Ashis Nandy begins his poisonous piece with ethnic genocides in—of all places Bosnia and Rwanda. Surprising isn’t it? It actually isn’t.
THE massive carnages at Rwanda and Bosnia have taught the students of genocide that the most venomous, brutal killings and atrocities take place when the two communities involved are not distant strangers, but close to each other culturally and socially, and when their lives intersect at many points. When nearness sours or explodes it releases strange, fearsome demons.
Those shocked by the bestial or barbaric nature of the communal violence in Gujarat would do well to read some accounts of the carnages in Rwanda and Bosnia. In both cases, the two communities involved were close to each other and ethnic cleansing took the forms of a particularly brutal, self-destructive exorcism. And the same thing happened during the great Partition killings in 1946-48.
It isn’t surprising that Ashis Nandy opens his piece with the Rwandan genocide. On the contrary, it is entirely logical because the genocide in Rwanda was the brutal culmination of centuries-long brainwashing of Rwanda’s tribes by racist European scholars whose toxic input was used by the Church to pit these tribes against one another (Recommended reading: the section in Rajiv Malhotra’s masterly Breaking India that provides an exhaustive account of this racist brainwashing process.). It also fits Nandy’s lopsided worldview with regard to the Partition massacres: that too, was the culmination of Jinnah’s virulent two-nation “theory,” which the likes of Nandy conveniently blame on Hindus.
From Rwanda, Nandy takes a flight straight to Gujarat and embarks on yarn-spinning on an industrial scale.
Gujarat was being prepared for such an exorcism for a very long time…It is a state that has seen thirty-three years of continuous rioting interrupted with periods of tense, uncomfortable peace. During these years, a sizeable section of Gujarat’s urban underclass has begun to see communalism and rioting as means of livelihood, quick profit, choice entertainment, and as a way of life.
Nandy, not even by mistake mentions that these “33 years of continuous rioting (sic)” all happened under successive Congress governments. The impression that this “33 years of continuous rioting (sic)” gives is unmistakable: that Gujarat has always been a violent state. He blames the RSS and VHP for the 1969 riots when the truth is completely different but then truth rarely gets in the way of Nandy’s psychoanalyst propaganda. Here’s an immediate example:
Rioting everywhere is pre-eminently an urban disease. Demographers of riots – from Gopal Krishna to Asghar Ali Engineer, and from P.R. Rajgopalan to Ashutosh Varshney – have shown repeatedly that it is even more so in India.
Really? How “urban” were all those places torn by riots in the wake of the Babri Masjid demolition? How urban were those places in Assam that were engulfed in riots in 1983 under Indira Gandhi’s watch? But such considerations don’t matter to Nandy because his propaganda wants to “prove” that
…the urban middle class in Gujarat is now the most communalised in the country; it has become an active abetter and motivator of communal violence. Sections of it participate in the loot enthusiastically…those that do not often participate in the violence vicariously.
Beginning here, Nandy indulges in an extended orgy of racism against Gujarati Hindus. He does reserve an iota of his racism against Kashmiri and Bengalis Hindus as well.
For the last hundred years or so, the so-called non-martial races of the subcontinent – Bengali babus, Kashmiri Muslims and Gujarati upper castes, for instance – have had a special fascination for violence, particularly if someone else was doing the fighting and risking their lives.
But he singles out Gujarati middle class Hindus because it is after all a hit job on Narendra Modi. Here are some selected racial abuses he heaps on them. They’re plain abuses because Nandy doesn’t provide a single fact to back them up.
- …Gujarat is now a classic instance of the urban-industrial vision, decomposing and spitting out in a blatant form the violence that the vision has always hidden in its belly.
- The state has not only been riot-prone but at war with itself.
- …available data show that riots last longer in Gujarat than in other states – it would be at best a temporary truce. Tension and hatred will persist and both sides will remain prepared for the next round. Gujarat is and will continue to be an arena of civil war for years—This is really the icing in Nandy’s textual venom. Nandy says “available data” but he cites nothing. It’s been 10 years since the riots and Gujarat is the only state where not even a minor communal skirmish has occurred. Will Nandy come out in the open and apologize for this uncalled for prediction? Or does he want riots to occur in Gujarat?
- But this is probably for the first time after the anti-Sikh riots of 1984 that the entire state machinery, except for some courageous dissenters among the administrators and in the law-and-order machinery, has turned against the minorities.
- Gujarat disowned Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi long ago. The state’s political soul has been won over by his killers. This time they have not only assassinated him again, they have danced on his dead body, howling with delight and mouthing obscenities. The Gandhians, in response, took out some ineffective peace processions, when they should have taken a public position against the regime and the Nazi Gauleiter ruling Gujarat.
After thus building up his “premise” with racial abuse, Nandy begins to demonise Narendra Modi. Here, he lets his imagination run really wild. His slurs against Modi are as relentless as they’re macabre—all in the name of “informed” commentary. It’s futile to dissect them but it’s good to know of the kind of wretchedness Nandy’s mind is capable of.
Almost nothing reveals the decline and degeneration of Gujarati middle class culture more than its present Chief Minister, Narendra Modi. Not only has he shamelessly presided over the riots and acted as the chief patron of rioting gangs, the vulgarities of his utterances have been a slur on civilised public life. His justifications of the riots, too, sound uncannily like that of Slobodan Milosevic, the Serbian president and mass murderer who is now facing trial for his crimes against humanity….More than a decade ago, when Narendra Modi was a nobody, a small-time RSS pracharak….I had the privilege of interviewing him…but it left me in no doubt that here was a classic, clinical case of a fascist…I came out of the interview shaken and told Yagnik that, for the first time, I had met a textbook case of a fascist and a prospective killer, perhaps even a future mass murderer.
This piece among others, is what the miners and sappers of human misery rely upon on prime time TV, newspapers, NGO and activist publications to abuse Modi at will. This piece is what Nandy himself relies upon when he emits noxious stuff about Modi in Outlook. Psychobabblers like Nandy serve an important but evil function. Your regular newspaper reporter, editor, and oped writer will typically think twice before applying labels like fascist, ethnic cleanser, and mass murderer. People like Ashis Nandy with fancy alphabets suffixed to their names and the respectability that it gives them, supply these slanderous arsenals by couching them in academese. And so Ashis Nandy calls Modi a mass murderer and a fascist, and then an editor quotes him as such, and then some other columnist quotes this editor and then, this columnist is himself quoted by say SAHMAT, and so it goes.
The voices of these professional slanderers have grown faint over the years thanks to the judicial system, and to Modi’s achievements, which are too enormous to ignore. However, people like Ashis Nandy continue to persist. Even Nandy who abused him in the filthiest of terms now finds himself content to ask Modi to repent—although the reference to Nazis remain intact, its edge has been greatly blunted.
Ten years have passed. Those who are still talking about the Gujarat riots today (read: those who still hold Modi guilty) are those who stand most to lose if the riots cases come to a closure. Ashis Nandy happens to be one of them. As for Modi, he’s already proved his mettle as a superb administrator who continues to deliver effective governance, is non-corrupt and has won election after election based on the strength of his performance. Which is also a cause for Ashis Nandy’s angst: Modi doesn’t need the endorsement of phony intellectuals like him because his support comes directly from people cutting across national borders. Which is why Ashis Nandy’s twisted psychoanalyst mind hates all those people who support and endorse Modi.
Which is also why I said he needs treatment pronto. I’m willing to fund it. I heard good things about NIMHANS.
The church is a sinister, Mafia-type organisation. In India, it operates and grows because of the extreme insularity of ordinary Hindus and their total ignorance of the history of Christianity. They have no idea what these bishops did in Europe before the Whites invented the concept of secularism to save their citizens from them. Forget about world events and history, most Hindus have no clue what is happening in other parts of India.
Hindus of this nation don’t know that such atrocities are happening against hindus in some parts. The main stream media which is secular, liberal (read anti-hindu) is primarily responsible for this. Any news against hindus is withheld from the people. Of course, even hindus themselves are equally responsible, as they should read the publications running for hindu cause, which they don’t at present.
So the best way to awaken sleeping and ignorant hindus is to keep on feeding them continuously with the information about ground level reality in India. Hindus will definitely awaken slowly but steadily and surely.
Reluctantly I tend to concur with nitha & ravi.
Keep the dogs at bay and continue to reconstruct an authentic India (not westernized, christianised or islamicised) from within.
This will require tapas.
Raul Feroz Ghandy is the real name of Rahul Gandhi. Indira Ghandy’s husband’s real name is Feroz Ghandy NOT FEROZ GANDHI. The Gandhi name was adopted by GHANDY FAMILY to dupe Hindus. RISE HINDUS OR IT WILL BE TOO LATE.
“PRAISE THE LORD” is really a WAR CRY SLOGAN of christian CRUSADERS who raised this slogan when they were RAPING AND KILLING muslims and Jews women and men.“Allah Hoo Akbar”, was war cry when Muslims raped and killed Hindus.
Abrahamics are worst of creatures.
If there is one God, there can be many gods also. There are many countries on planet earth, each with their own rules and regulations. Same way there could be many parts to heaven and hell, each controlled by the Gods of different Religions.
The Gods described in the West Asian literatures seems to be more vengeful than an Italian Mafia Don. Just not worshipping that entity is reason enough to burn me in hell fire for eternity. What ever sins I am supposed to have committed during one life time is not reason enough to burn me in hell fire for eternity!
Mark Tully on Sonia Gandhi and Hindus
http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/2012/06/period-over-which-sonia-gandhi-presided.html
Apparently, God’s runs a stag house — there are no women. He doesn’t have a daughters or wife or sister or mother. He only has a son. The monotheist idiots on one hand say God has no form so we should not worship images, on the other hand, they proclaim him to be a male. These male priests ofthe church project God in their own image.
Manu Joseph: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/world/asia/21iht-letter21.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
http://www.firstpost.com/politics/six-reasons-why-narendra-modi-may-never-be-prime-minister-339350.html
See another article on Modi. It seems the whole world is now realizing this man needs to be stopped. In fact, the article says exactly what I said earlier here that BJP itself will defeat him.
Hello Admirer of Fascist
I replied that it is sensible if everyone had that kind of foresight and wisdom i.e abusing or bashing anyone will not get votes.
Today, Nitish is holding Modi responsible for NDA’s defeat in 2004 and 2009. Do you concur with him? Congress may win or lose, but Modi for sure will not be PM in 2014. That is in short what everyone is saying. How will you persuade Nitish ? Do you have any plans to make him agree to your fascist leader?
You didn’t answer my question, comrades. You must be mighty disappointed that your party is not endorsing your abuse of Modi.
As to Nitish’s jockeying for PM’s post, it is not good news for you, for it means that everybody is sensing that Congress is on its way out come elections. Your war whoops here therefore are quite silly.
Hello Anand
What is wrong if they dont want to bash modi? If all parties were so sensible, the indian political landscape can be transformed. Meanwhile, what is your take on the statement of one Nitish Kumar who incidentally is said to be the CM of Bihar and is one of your main allies of BJP. He says only a secular man can be PM and is daring NDA to announce the name. Will he allow Modi? I am sure you being the right hand man of Modi can provide some valuable insight to this statement of Nitish.
Hello Comrade RockyFMenka and MenkaRockyF,
Look at this horrible news! Congress party says it will not bash “Modi” in the upcoming Guj elections! http://www.indianexpress.com/news/no-modibashing-in-poll-campaign-says-congress/963267/
Congress thereby is admitting two things: 1) that its diatribe against Modi is no reasoned, factual criticism, but just abusive bashing and 2) that Modi-bashing is counterproductive.That means that Congress woill not denounce Modi using Communist f-words like “fascist” in the elections. Do you feel betrayed by your party, comrades?
Hello Comrade RockyFMenka,
Imagine Comrade Praful Bidwai quoting Subramanian Swamy to show that Sonia Gandhi is anti-national and pseudo-secular! That pretty much sums up your right-of-centerness.You’ll carry some credibility if you quote credible right-of-center thought leaders instead. For instance, you could have quoted what Swapan Dasgupta wrote in ToI today:
It’s always both amusing and annoying listen to Muslims pontificate to others when they are proponents of the most demonic, savage, backward, adversarial and spirit-crushing cult that has apparently ever existed. All that sticking their backsides in the air 27 times a day doesn’t help either. This “Adam” must have ruptured a few blood vessels in his brain spending all that time at the mosque.
Stalin incarnate RockyF tailing triple A’s
Please check the amount of subsidies paid by gujarat government to haj travel.How come the speech and practice differ?
“Kindly google the speeches of Parrikar during the Goa elections. ”
You believe what comes out of the mouths of politicians and judge them by their speeches? Some people can be fooled all the time…
“The difference between a person who has an inclusive agenda for the society and a person who believes in polarising the society will be as clear as day to you.”
It should not be the job of a politician to mollify angry members of the society by giving them freebies in the form of Haj subsidies and funding for Masrasas and churches. Politicians should stick to creating laws that treat everyone as equals. This is the simple point that you fail to grasp.
Anand (of Triple A group)
Kindly google the speeches of Parrikar during the Goa elections. The difference between a person who has an inclusive agenda for the society and a person who believes in polarising the society will be as clear as day to you.
Comrade RockyFMenka,
You have missed that part where I showed you that Parrikar endorses Modi, presumably for teaching a lesson to Muslims. Too bad it doesn’t gel well with your immense love of Parrikar, deal with it.
While at it, answer the question about why Hindutva (Parrikar’s ideology) appeals to you. Best wishes.
Serious not seriously, at not ar and so on for other typos
Bangladeshi Muslim should have more self respect and tell his country to accept his own people in his country as refugees from Burma. Apparently there was trouble brewing with the recent Muslim immigrants in Burma, and the rape of a Burmese girl precipitated the Burmese to send back recent immigrants…..
Hi Bengali Muslim Adam,
If India and Hindus were so evil why do Bengalis want to come to India in the millions trying to escape Bangladesh? As for the Middle East, have some self respect for yourself man. South Asians like you are treated like shit in the Gulf. A good Persian friend of mine told me in places like Qatar people like you that is South Asians are not counted even as people by Arabs. II remember a Bengali Muslim who works in the Gulf telling me during a conversation I had ar an airport how savagely he is treated but he has no choice to work in the Gulf as he is poor. What happened, you guys do not even accept your own people when they were refugees in Burma…..? Get yourself some self respect…..My black friend had some seriously doubts about Islam ( he is Muslim) when he went to Arabia the land of Islam and was referred to as dog by Muslims there…..
Adam,
Suggest you visit http://www.faithfreedom.org. Why don’t you convince Dr. Ali Sina what a ‘wonderful’ faith Islam is. There’s a huge prize amount waiting for you… And yes before waxing eloquent on Islam…have you done an indepth study of other faiths… Now your coreligionsits are having problems in Burma too… Why do they have problems wherever there are other communities…Read some time ago they had problems even with the Parsis in Bombay in the nineteenth century. So much for the religion of peace.
Breaking India in the name of desert cults?
http://www.breakingindia.com/
@som.
According to Sri Ramana Maharshi:
“Shanti (peace, inner silence) is for purifying one’s own mind, shakti (power, divine energy) for the progress of society. Society should be raised through shakti and then shanti established.”
So, we (deadly) need power.
Another thing we need i.e. Truth.
According to Sita Ram Goel:
“Hindu society and culture are faced with a crisis. There is a UNITED FRONT OF ENTRENCHED ALIEN FORCES — Islam, Christianity, Communism, Nehruism — to disrupt and discredit the perennial values of the Indian ethos. A new threat has developed in recent years in the shape of globalisation dominated by Western multinationals. All who care for India need to know what is happening, and what is to be done if a major tragedy is to be averted.
“In this fight for men’s minds, our only weapon is Truth. Truth must be told, as much about Hindu society and culture as about the alien ideologies which have been on the warpath against us since the days of foreign domination over the Hindu homeland.”
SO,WE KNOW OUR ENEMIES,WE KNOW THE TRUTH.
“India will adjust to those changes without losing the integrity and relevance of her spiritual, philosophical and cultural foundations. “
And finally:
According to Sri Ramana Maharshi) through brotherhood (on a sense of equality), supreme peace will prevail among mankind and then this entire planet will flourish like a single household.
to menka
I have noticed your interactions with @Anand and @itachi here.The last post of @Anand and his concern for you moved me.
May i suggest other alternatives for your well being.@Itachi advised you to see racist Psychiatrist,nothing of that sort is there.I do not know what your infatuation of modi would be categorized into,since it is of political defeat and jail going outcome you are depending on.You should take care if the expected things do not happen.
I have seen western films where they have this concept of SUPPORT GROUPS,it should assist you getting into balance in case.Those sort of facilities are not available here in india.
It is better to move to united states of america for that sort of facility.Getting visa would not be a problem, if you could take out a copy of the postings made here and presented to the visa officer.
Since america was not in favor of modi,they might consider your case sympathetically.I think your case may come under medical tourism.Just to remind you,november is four months away.
I am not suggesting anything to @anand as he seems to be jolly fella.I take his word when he says “Modi is not the locus of my happiness.”
Triple A’s
You are trying to side step by basic question which was why is Modi is better than Khanduri or Parrikar. By saying, Parrikar’s Hinduvta and Modi’s is same is a fallacious argument. Parrikar won election based on promise of inclusive society while Modi polarised the society and won last time. Their agenda for the society is as different as chalk and cheese.
Hello Comrade MenkaRockyF,
>>Well, you know admirer of Fascism, I guess every morning when you wake up
I am having a hearty chuckle. You do get very original and creative when you get mad, I think.
By the way, “fascist” seems to be the mother of all swearwords in the commie lexicon. No wonder even our right-of-center comrade, Comrade RockyFMenka, loves it. I’m feeling extremely insulted to be called a fascist.
>>He will be behind bars from Jan 2013 after losing the elections in Gujarat.
That’s very sad. When that happens I will be very disappointed for a couple of days, but am damned certain will get on with life as always, because Modi is not the locus of my happiness.
As to you, I wonder what will happen to you if Modi won’t lose, as he is highly unlikely to. Given your extremely agitated state of mind and emotional attachment to the hatred of Modi, I suspect that you will end all fun for yourself, as Adolf Hitler did when the enemy was the gates of the Chancellery Garden. Don’t do that! Come on here when you are tormented by dark thought and I’ll talk you out of it, even though you are a piece of $hit.
Hello Comrade MenkaRockyF,
>>Well, you know admirer of Fascism, I guess every morning when you wake up
I am having a hearty chuckle. You do get very original and creative when you get mad, I think.
By the way, “fascist” seems to be the mother of all swearwords in the commie lexicon. No wonder even our right-of-center comrade, Comrade RockyFMenka, loves it. I’m feeling extremely insulted to be called a fascist.
>>He will be behind bars from Jan 2013 after losing the elections in Gujarat.
That’s very sad. When that happens I will be very disappointed for a couple of days, but am damned certain will get on with life as always, because Modi is not the locus of my happiness.
As to you, I wonder what will happen to you if Modi won’t lose, as he is highly unlikely to. Given your extremely agitated state of mind and emotional attachment to the hatred of Modi, I suspect that you will end all fun for yourself, as Adolf Hitler did when the enemy was the gates of the Chancellery Garden. Don’t do that! Come on here when you are tormented by dark thought and I’ll talk you out of it, even though you are a piece of shit.
All of which will lead to an ultimate collapse since such strategies go against nature. Better, therefore, to focus on India’s spiritual and ethical foundations and how to strengthen the people. For rebuilding a healthy society, I particularly respect the recipe given by Sri Ramana Maharshi, when asked, ‘How to strengthen the people and the nation’:
ON SOCIETY
“In a society consisting of followers of diverse ways of life, society is like the body and the members like its limbs. A member prospers by working for the good of society like a limb serving the body.
Through mind, speech and body one should always conduct oneself to serve the interests of society and should also awaken his circle to do likewise. One should build up one’s own circle so as to serve the interests of society and then make it prosper so that the society itself may prosper.
Shanti (peace, inner silence) is for purifying one’s own mind, shakti (power, divine energy) for the progress of society. Society should be raised through shakti and then shanti established.
Brotherhood based on a sense of equality is the supreme goal to be attained by human society as a whole. Through brotherhood, supreme peace will prevail among mankind and then this entire planet will flourish like a single household.”
Sri Ramana Maharshi
Dear adam Monotheist:
Islam makes a great distinction between Muslims and non-Muslims and the non-Muslims have to pay Jazia for the sin of not being Muslims — this is religious racism and seggregation at its worst.
@ Bengaly Muslim adam,
Islam a religion of equality? My foot! It is nothing but Arab nationalism in disguise. Here is the proof:
The Hajj and the Apartheid Train: Where Is the Muslim Outrage?
Arabs have a separate train for themselves to reach Hajj sites, while all non-Arabs are shown the board of “No Entry.” Do these non-Arab converts from the world over even realize that by converting to Islam, they are merely carrying Arab nationalism on their shoulders and treating Arabs as the master race of the world? No wonder, the jokers have to bow to the land of the Arabs five times a day regardless of whichever country they live in!
to adam
your quote
“It is clearly written in Qur’an and you just validated that , it says that this Book is guidance for ONLY those who are seeking the truth,as for others Allah has put locks onto their hearts: ”
What is the meaning of the above?How do you know a truth seeker?
how is locks onto their hearts recognised?
how does allah recognise a truth seeker?why would he do that?
what does he gain?
@ Bengaly Muslim adam,
I have called you Azhar,because I don’t want to insult your ancestor,adam baba.
@ Bengaly Muslim Azhar:
1. What does Allah do when drones bombard your messiahs and France and Switzerland bans minarets and burqas?
2. Why is Akbar…Owaisi shouting at the top of his voice that “DALIT” muslims must get reservations?
Bengaly Muslim Azhar, this is absolute nonsense: “Consider this; when you give milk to your idol and call it sacred, no human can take that milk from your God. yet flies and insects take it in a blink of an eye, your god cant even stop it.” No Hindu thinks of such crappy ideas that insects must be killed before they “take” the milk offered to God. This nonsense is some sick minded individual’s fantasy.
@ adam, the funfilled Paradise existed only in the fertile imagination of Mohd. Nobody has come back after death to tell us the stories in heaven and hell. Death is THE end. Noting survives death. So what ever happen to me will happen to you also after death. At least don’t kill/harm any one for getting rewards in an imaginary life hereafter.
@Avinash/niraj
What biased propganda!!! The Hajj train in its first phase will operate at 35% capacity and will only be open to Saudis and Gulfis. Why would they want south asians riding on the top with their chickens and goats? How many times have people died in hajj due to stampedes? Why would they want to risk it? Non arab muslims and Arab muslims from outside of Saudi can behave like absolute prats in the Hajj, vandalising graves and the prophet’s wife’s walkway. And i am a proud Bengaly muslim and if you dont believe me, i hail from Jogganatpur, Sylthet.
and guess what, theres racism in every country you go to. At least they dont torture and degrade people based on their caste as set out by an archaic and irrelevent text which you take your man made idols from.
Consider this; when you give milk to your idol and call it sacred, no human can take that milk from your God. yet flies and insects take it in a blink of an eye, your god cant even stop it.
I hope Bengalys repudiate all those Hindu practices they have incorporated and follow Islam. The Islam that has never made distinctions based on colour or caste!!
@Avinash/niraj
It is clearly written in Qur’an and you just validated that , it says that this Book is guidance for ONLY those who are seeking the truth,as for others Allah has put locks onto their hearts:
>So (the fact is that) whomsoever Allah wills to guide aright, He makes his breast wide open to Islam, and whomsoever He wills to let go astray, He makes his breast narrow and squeezes it so tight that (at the very idea of Islam) he begins to feel as if his soul were climbing up towards the sky. Thus Allah sets the impurity (caused by their deviation from the Way of Islam) over those who do not believe, whereas this Way is the Straight Way of your Lord, and We have made its signs quite clear for those who are amenable to advice. There is an abode of peace for them with their Lord, and He is their Protector because of the good works they are doing.
>>So find yourself in the second category,its your loss as you have been warned already and you will have no recourse on the day of judgement!
And for me?
“Abode of peace”: Heaven, the place of perfect peace and happiness, where the dwellers will be immune from every kind of calamity and misery.wow!!!
@Avinash
India is going through huge changes. Question: Can India adjust to those changes without losing the integrity and relevance of her spiritual, philosophical and cultural foundations? In order to maintain and even strengthen those foundations, what actions will be required?
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main53.asp?filename=Ne160612Coverstory.asp
Excellent. Shoma hits the nail on its head. All the tall claims about development have been laid bare. Read the part where common gujrathis are nhappy and expressing themselves. Elections will the end of road for modi and his politics.
@ adam, have you read The Quran in a language you fully understand? It was the cocoction of Mohd to motivate his followers (with all those rewards in the Paradise and cruel punishment in the hell, etc).
How the “formless” God can have a voice to reveal something in Arabic? Islam is a Religion by the criminals, of the criminals and for the criminals. Only mentally retarded people will convert to any religion now.
@Arvind
No wonder people like you are banned on twitter by well known luminaries. If BJP wins meaning NDA..is that so difficult to comprehend for you?
menka: “If congress wins, it will be Meira kumar and if BJP wins it will be either Nitish or Sushma.”
Nitish is not in BJP. Shows your level of ignorance. BTW, if Sushma Swaraj becomes PM, wonder what label your White masters will use for her that you can memorize and parrot out here. Hitler was not a woman, so what will your inferior brained Whiteskinned masters in Scamnesty cook up?
@Anand
Well, you know admirer of Fascism, I guess every morning when you wake up at 11 o’clock, you get on the web and search frantically for Pro-Modi material. Having found it, no doubt you heave a sigh of relief, glad that your world hasn’t crashed around you yet. Then you eagerly post it here. What a life you are living fascist. I feel for you, actually.
Seems your IQ level is quite low it escapes you that NOBODY wants Modi. Mark my words here, neither congress or BJP will announce their candidate in 2014. If congress wins, it will be Meira kumar and if BJP wins it will be either Nitish or Sushma. Now, before you ask about Modi, He will be behind bars from Jan 2013 after losing the elections in Gujarat.
Also, Comrade MenkaBharatiyaRockyF, this is how you people started the killings in Gujarat, didn’t you?
http://www.dailypioneer.com/state-editions/kochi/72477-cpm-aimed-to-spark-rss-islamists-conflict-cbi.html
Comrade MenkaRockyF,
>>Repair your own house before looking into
I addressed my comment to Comrade BharatiyaMenkaRockyF. Why are _you_ responding, that too with irrelevant inanity? Forgot the handle you were using?
>>Another article on Why modi cant be PM
Well, you know Comrade, I guess every morning when you wake up at 10 o’clock, you get on the web and search frantically for anti-Modi material. Having found it, no doubt you heave a sigh of relief, glad that your world hasn’t crashed around you yet. Then you eagerly post it here. What a life you are living comrade. Modi already is ruling your propagandistic ass; your life revolves around him. I feel for you, actually.
Anyways, here is another article. An ace secular is coming around to the view that Modi may end up being the PM. Even your own folks are betraying you comrade
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-18352532
@adam,
Like others of his persuasion has every right to indulge in fantasies .. I have a Hindi translation of the Quran in my house , have held it many times in my hands, and read it too. And after reading it I have understood that it is a book that preaches hate and violence, not love and peace. Every ideology of hate has to ultimately lose because it is against the nature’s law of evolution of mankind. And an unchanging Quran is no sign of its divinity, only a sign of total shutting down of the thinking faculty in its followers. This is also against the Nature’s law of evolution.
@ menka, if NOBODY wants him, what makes you worry about such a person? Any way the post of PM is reserved for a member of the FIRST FAMILY. Mr.B.Raman now wants Ms.Priyanka Gandhi to be the PM. In that case we do not have to worry what will happen to our Country after the Amul Baby as he is still not married and do not have any children to carry forward the family tradition of ruling the “unwashed millions” of India.
The world is waking up to realize Islam is the real thing that was missing from their lives,various European countries and USA has a flurry of reversion to Islam right after 9/11,people just wanted to know who are these people who are capable of such “heinous” crimes against humanity and where do they get this aspiration from,they wanted to go to the root of all this “mayhem” and they picked up Qur’an,once they did,they were spelled bound and rest is history like they say.
Every year there are thousands of people reverting back to islam world wide and 60% of these reversion compromise of women,and not only women which are marring Muslims but highly educated professional women who after studying Islam/Qur’an in depth decided that this is the thing that was missing from their lives.
For example a country could have the best traffic laws in the world,or the best roads and infrastructure available but if the people decide not to obey the laws then it will be a mayhem on the roads (like in Pakistan,India and Bangladesh),so one can only blame only the people but not the “laws”.
God has promised in Qur’an and assured the Humanity that HE will keep the word of Qur’an the way it was revealed to Prophet Muhammad till the final day of judgement, ,which is a miracle in itself as lot of other holy books cannot claim this!
Who is a “minority” in the present global context? A community may be numerically small relative to the local population, but globally it may in fact be part of the majority that is powerful, assertive and well-funded. Given that India is experiencing a growing influx of global funding, political lobbying, legal action and flow of ideologies, what criteria should we use to classify a group as a “minority”? Should certain groups, now counted as minorities, be reclassified given their enormous worldwide clout, power and resources? If the “minority” concerned has actually merged into an extra-territorial power through ideology (like Maoists) or theology (like many churches and madrassas), through infrastructure investment (like buying large amounts of land, buildings, setting up training centers, etc.), through digital integration and internal governance, then do they not become a powerful tool of intervention representing a larger global force rather than being simply a “minority” in India. Certainly, one would not consider a local franchise of McDonalds in India to be a minor enterprise just because it may employ only a handful of employees with modest revenues locally. It is its global size, presence and clout that are counted and that determine the rules, restrictions and disclosure requirements to which it must adhere. Similarly, nation-states’ presence in the form of consulates is also regulated. But why are foreign religious MNCs exempted from similar requirements of transparency and supervision? (For example: Bishops are appointed by the Vatican, funded by it, and given management doctrine to implement by the Vatican, and yet are not regulated on par with diplomats in consulates representing foreign sovereign states.) Indian security agencies do monitor Chinese influences and interventions into Buddhist monasteries in the northern mountain belt, because such interventions can compromise Indian sovereignty and soft power while boosting China’s clout. Should the same supervision also apply to Christian groups operating under the direction and control of their western headquarters and Islamic organizations funded and/or ideologically influenced by their respective foreign headquarters? What should India do to improve and deliver social justice in order to secure its minorities and wean them away from global nexuses that are often anti-Indian.