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	<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Secular Burqa by Bhavananda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bhavananda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Palahalli: I disagree with your following comment - "Let them experience their religion in its entire splendor."

The only people who'd be happy with that are Islamist/Jihadi men, like you find in AfPak or the Saudis. Plus, it will only increase the suffering of their women.. The bigger problem will be with the non-Muslims because INVARIABLY the demands won't stop will implementation of Sharia - it will only legitimize the jihadi wetdream of a worldwide Islamic rule.
Feeding a snake only produces poison, no nectar is ever formed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Palahalli: I disagree with your following comment - &#8220;Let them experience their religion in its entire splendor.&#8221;</p>
<p>The only people who&#8217;d be happy with that are Islamist/Jihadi men, like you find in AfPak or the Saudis. Plus, it will only increase the suffering of their women.. The bigger problem will be with the non-Muslims because INVARIABLY the demands won&#8217;t stop will implementation of Sharia - it will only legitimize the jihadi wetdream of a worldwide Islamic rule.<br />
Feeding a snake only produces poison, no nectar is ever formed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Secular Burqa by Palahalli</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/06/26/secular-burqa/comment-page-2/#comment-318578</link>
		<dc:creator>Palahalli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 09:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaffir - What you say is reasonable but this still does not explain the worldwide regression into Islam. 

The only thing I propose is to give Muslims their Islamic Shar'ia. Let them experience their religion in its entire splendor. Why should we refuse them that? Even though it’s the Secular State that does the refusing now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaffir - What you say is reasonable but this still does not explain the worldwide regression into Islam. </p>
<p>The only thing I propose is to give Muslims their Islamic Shar&#8217;ia. Let them experience their religion in its entire splendor. Why should we refuse them that? Even though it’s the Secular State that does the refusing now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Child Abuse: NCERT Style by Vijayendra Rao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vijayendra Rao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please read very good book "Yavudu Charitre" from Dravid University. The real history described by Mr. MVR Shastry (Telugu) and translated to Kannada by Mr. Babu Krishnamurthy (author of Ajeya and Editor of Karmaveer - Kannada Magazine)

Books will be availabe in 
Keshava Shilpa, Near Uma Theatre, Chamrajpete
Keshava Shilpa, Rangarao Road, Shankar Puram
Sapna Book House

Please go through the Catalogue
http://www.dravidianuniversity.org/downloads/New_Catalogue.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please read very good book &#8220;Yavudu Charitre&#8221; from Dravid University. The real history described by Mr. MVR Shastry (Telugu) and translated to Kannada by Mr. Babu Krishnamurthy (author of Ajeya and Editor of Karmaveer - Kannada Magazine)</p>
<p>Books will be availabe in<br />
Keshava Shilpa, Near Uma Theatre, Chamrajpete<br />
Keshava Shilpa, Rangarao Road, Shankar Puram<br />
Sapna Book House</p>
<p>Please go through the Catalogue<br />
<a href="http://www.dravidianuniversity.org/downloads/New_Catalogue.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.dravidianuniversity.org/downloads/New_Catalogue.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Child Abuse: NCERT Style by Aryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandeep can u get on twitter please, all my other fav bloggers are on it. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandeep can u get on twitter please, all my other fav bloggers are on it. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Secular Burqa by Kaffir</title>
		<link>http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/06/26/secular-burqa/comment-page-2/#comment-318446</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaffir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>=&gt;
This need is obvious because she has not converted out of it. We also delude ourselves repeatedly by assuming that some large evil force holds Muslims in thrall of Islam.
=&gt;

Since the punishment for heretics and apostates is death (and it's the duty of any Muslim to punish a heretic/apostate), that should be more than enough force to keep Muslims within the fold. It even keeps lefty non-Muslims deferential to Islam to the extent that they don't even criticize it - they are not stupid, and they're not blind to what happened to Theo van Gogh, Taslima Nasreen, Rushdie etc. and what happened after the Danish cartoons were published.</description>
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This need is obvious because she has not converted out of it. We also delude ourselves repeatedly by assuming that some large evil force holds Muslims in thrall of Islam.<br />
=&gt;</p>
<p>Since the punishment for heretics and apostates is death (and it&#8217;s the duty of any Muslim to punish a heretic/apostate), that should be more than enough force to keep Muslims within the fold. It even keeps lefty non-Muslims deferential to Islam to the extent that they don&#8217;t even criticize it - they are not stupid, and they&#8217;re not blind to what happened to Theo van Gogh, Taslima Nasreen, Rushdie etc. and what happened after the Danish cartoons were published.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Child Abuse: NCERT Style by larissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>larissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW --the American liberals who supported Indian independence were a different bunch from the Western liberals today---at least in my estimation. The former consisting of people like Will Durant were enlightened folk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW &#8211;the American liberals who supported Indian independence were a different bunch from the Western liberals today&#8212;at least in my estimation. The former consisting of people like Will Durant were enlightened folk.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Secular Burqa by Palahalli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palahalli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandeep, some comments in moderation. Please clear them. Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandeep, some comments in moderation. Please clear them. Thank you</p>
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		<title>Comment on Secular Burqa by Palahalli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palahalli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anwar Shaikh - "Would we, as a secular community, seek to restrict the role of religion as a private affair between a man and his god, or would we allow religion to infest all of our social and political life, and influence our statute books."

- To me this is not clarity but confusion confounded. Root of most if not all of our miseries. 

1. Are we (presumably "Indian" Society) a Secular community?

2. How does this Secular community "restrict the role" of religion to the private domain? 

3. If this Secular community sees religion "infesting" its public domain, then how is this Secular community comfortable investing its private domain with such "infestation"? 

Shortly, are Secular-liberals not trying to misguide the religious by telling them there is a way to restrict religion to the private domain when they actually want to to tell them that they should throw religion out altogether?

So when I support the right of the Muslima to wear the veil, I think I'm being honest to her need of her religion. This need is obvious because she has not converted out of it. We also delude ourselves repeatedly by assuming that some large evil force holds Muslims in thrall of Islam. They are scared to convert et al. Maybe it's true of some. Certainly not of the majority.

In India the State is Secular and not Hindu. 

Nevertheless when in conflict with the State, Muslims and Christians rarely recognize it as such and they then see a *Hindu State* instead. - Why should Hindus bear the brunt of decisions made by the Secular State or its courts of law that actually, vehemently deny any Hindu character in its institutions? 

So my own position is that Muslims must be allowed to live as Muslims and by their laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anwar Shaikh - &#8220;Would we, as a secular community, seek to restrict the role of religion as a private affair between a man and his god, or would we allow religion to infest all of our social and political life, and influence our statute books.&#8221;</p>
<p>- To me this is not clarity but confusion confounded. Root of most if not all of our miseries. </p>
<p>1. Are we (presumably &#8220;Indian&#8221; Society) a Secular community?</p>
<p>2. How does this Secular community &#8220;restrict the role&#8221; of religion to the private domain? </p>
<p>3. If this Secular community sees religion &#8220;infesting&#8221; its public domain, then how is this Secular community comfortable investing its private domain with such &#8220;infestation&#8221;? </p>
<p>Shortly, are Secular-liberals not trying to misguide the religious by telling them there is a way to restrict religion to the private domain when they actually want to to tell them that they should throw religion out altogether?</p>
<p>So when I support the right of the Muslima to wear the veil, I think I&#8217;m being honest to her need of her religion. This need is obvious because she has not converted out of it. We also delude ourselves repeatedly by assuming that some large evil force holds Muslims in thrall of Islam. They are scared to convert et al. Maybe it&#8217;s true of some. Certainly not of the majority.</p>
<p>In India the State is Secular and not Hindu. </p>
<p>Nevertheless when in conflict with the State, Muslims and Christians rarely recognize it as such and they then see a *Hindu State* instead. - Why should Hindus bear the brunt of decisions made by the Secular State or its courts of law that actually, vehemently deny any Hindu character in its institutions? </p>
<p>So my own position is that Muslims must be allowed to live as Muslims and by their laws.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Child Abuse: NCERT Style by Kedar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kedar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The really clinching part of these history books (I studied in A.P.) is that all these gems are cleverly embedded amidst those dreary one-page mentions about the kushans, guptas, satavahanas, rashtrakutas, pallavas, chalukyas, etc etc etc, all in one-academic year. No mention of their culture, no mention of life-styles, and absolutely no mention of the exploits of the really great kings like Shalivahana or Samudragupta (Oh, Ashoka and Akbar were mentioned alright, but we know their game!). Even Shivaji was just another historical character for me, if it were not for my Maharashtrian upbringing at home.

There is really no way a child of 7th or 8th standard can remember or even show an interest in so much content being dumped over him/her in just one academic year without any emphasis on why it is important to study history.

In contrast, I was irritated to see that Otto Von Bismarck was eulogised as "a tall blond man of Prussia with a heavy moustache" and paens were sung for his "blood and iron" policy, during his drive to unify Germany for his Prussian King Wilhelm II become the emperor of Germany!

That, my friends, is the scholarship of SSC (Secondary School Certificate) of A.P. (when I studied, atleast!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The really clinching part of these history books (I studied in A.P.) is that all these gems are cleverly embedded amidst those dreary one-page mentions about the kushans, guptas, satavahanas, rashtrakutas, pallavas, chalukyas, etc etc etc, all in one-academic year. No mention of their culture, no mention of life-styles, and absolutely no mention of the exploits of the really great kings like Shalivahana or Samudragupta (Oh, Ashoka and Akbar were mentioned alright, but we know their game!). Even Shivaji was just another historical character for me, if it were not for my Maharashtrian upbringing at home.</p>
<p>There is really no way a child of 7th or 8th standard can remember or even show an interest in so much content being dumped over him/her in just one academic year without any emphasis on why it is important to study history.</p>
<p>In contrast, I was irritated to see that Otto Von Bismarck was eulogised as &#8220;a tall blond man of Prussia with a heavy moustache&#8221; and paens were sung for his &#8220;blood and iron&#8221; policy, during his drive to unify Germany for his Prussian King Wilhelm II become the emperor of Germany!</p>
<p>That, my friends, is the scholarship of SSC (Secondary School Certificate) of A.P. (when I studied, atleast!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Child Abuse: NCERT Style by larissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>larissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant to say that Will Durant was banned for being pro-India above not pro British--typo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to say that Will Durant was banned for being pro-India above not pro British&#8211;typo</p>
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